Jill Biden’s ex-husband accuses her of affair with Joe in 1970s

[gam197]

gam197:

Jill Biden has taken to center stage in this electton

As presidential candidate’s wife’s often do.

Off topic, but Melanis kind of stays out of the camera now days. I wonder if she will give a speech st the RNC this year.

Melania has not been center stage for many reasons. It is not a “love affair” as portrayed by the Biden marriage. Melania is Catholic. Trump is not.

Jill Biden is center stage. She did a 2 hour presentation on the anniversary of social security. She spoke at the DNC. She is on so many networks. It’s Jill, Jill, Jill.

Why does Joe not kiss the pope’s ring, his mother said not to.

But despite the thrill of meeting John Paul, there was one thing Biden refused to do: kiss the pope’s ring, a customary greeting when meeting an esteemed cleric. It was later revealed that it was Biden’s mother who insisted he refrain, telling her son, “Don’t you kiss his ring.”

 

[qui_est_ce]

Wouldn’t that entail her husband having to also fill out papers.? Annulments are not easily given out. Was there even an annulment granted?

I got an annulment for my first marriage. The spouse has to fill out paperwork. In my case, my ex refused, so they ended up reviewing without having paperwork from him.

 

[gam197]

I got an annulment for my first marriage. The spouse has to fill out paperwork. In my case, my ex refused, so they ended up reviewing without having paperwork from him.

So if this husband refused out of anger, it would still be allowed. Does it depend on whether the first marriage is a Catholic marriage or a marriage recognized by the Church?

There are many couples who are not allowed to receive communion over the issue or marriage so it is an important one.

 

[qui_est_ce]

So if this husband refused out of anger, it would still be allowed. Does it depend on whether the first marriage is a Catholic marriage or a marriage recognized by the Church?

There are many couples who are not allowed to receive communion over the issue or marriage so it is an important one.

Yes, still allowed, if other details qualify. My understanding is that every marriage, Catholic or not, is presumed valid until proven otherwise. Some don’t even need to go through the annulment process per se. I’m not a canon lawyer, so that’s as far as I’ll go.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

Melania has not been center stage for many reasons.

Do you think she will give another speech this year?

 

[puer.dei]

There are many couples who are not allowed to receive communion over the issue or marriage so it is an important one.

So, not only are you assuming that Dr Biden is lying and her ex-husband is not. Now you’re also making assumptions about the validity of the Bidens’ marriage, based on . . . what? Dislike?

 

[gam197]

Yes, still allowed, if other details qualify. My understanding is that every marriage, Catholic or not, is presumed valid until proven otherwise. Some don’t even need to go through the annulment process per se. I’m not a canon lawyer, so that’s as far as I’ll go.

Annulments are not easy to come by and there are millions of Catholics who have either not sought one or have been denied. There are many who do not seek communion or avoid Church all together over this issue.

 

[qui_est_ce]

Annulments are not easy to come by and there are millions of Catholics who have either not sought one or have been denied. There are many who do not seek communion or avoid Church all together over this issue.

Mine was a lengthy process, but well worth it. It made me look inside myself and examine my motives, ideas, goals, expectations, etc. Once I completed my paperwork, it only took twelve months to go through the Tribunal. The priest on the Tribunal was very helpful and sympathetic.

 

[F_Marturana]

I mean Joe and Jill were married in Church, it seems.

I assume that means her first marriage was invalid.

 

[gam197]

I mean Joe and Jill were married in Church, it seems.

I assume that means her first marriage was invalid.

Not necesarily, it depends on the priest. That is what angers many. There are millions of divorced Catholics who are not allowed communion.

 

[gam197]

Mine was a lengthy process, but well worth it. It made me look inside myself and examine my motives, ideas, goals, expectations, etc. Once I completed my paperwork, it only took twelve months to go through the Tribunal. The priest on the Tribunal was very helpful and sympathetic.

My understanding is that they are very difficult to get and that many are denied.

 

[Nepperhan]

So Joe Biden married a divorced woman? How is he still presenting himself for communion?

In the same manner as Melania?

 

[gam197]

qui_est_ce:

So Joe Biden married a divorced woman? How is he still presenting himself for communion?

In the same manner as Melania?

We have all seen the pictures of Joe receiving communion. I have yet to see a picture of Melania receiving communion.

 

[Nepperhan]

Melania has not been center stage for many reasons.

Name three. The speculation is that she has become shamed by revelations about her spouse.

 

[gam197]

gam197:

Melania has not been center stage for many reasons.

Name three. The speculation is that she has become shamed by revelations about her spouse.

The language barrier for Melania is a real issue. Her speech is not as clear as a person born in the USA.

Melania is not a center stage person like Jill. She is a more private person. Jill hasn’t been as center stage in prior elections either compared to this election cycle. Melania tends to stand back and let her husband do the talking.

 

[Cathoholic]

Nepperhan . . .

So what?

Well the people opposing President Trump have been telling many of us here on CAF for years (look up the threads yourself) that old morality issues were a problem with “Trump”.

So now all of those who have criticized “Trump” in that sphere, now get to criticize Biden too!

I guess I thought the complaints were political.
But some insisted they were really concerned about the morality (not the politics).

So now is all of your chance to be consistent and rip Biden too.

So have it at . . . .

 

[Nepperhan]

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“After she met with Pope Francis at the Vatican on Wednesday, first lady Melania Trump confirmed a little-known fact about her faith: She is Catholic. And she described the visit with the leader of the Catholic Church as “one I’ll never forget.””

 

[gam197]

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“After she met with Pope Francis at the Vatican on Wednesday, first lady Melania Trump confirmed a little-known fact about her faith: She is Catholic. And she described the visit with the leader of the Catholic Church as “one I’ll never forget.””

Melania is a Catholic. She is a person of faith and is in an illicit relationship. She is Slovenia born into a family where her mother had her and her sister baptised. Her father appears to be an Atheist as he was part of the Communist group.

What is your point? She met Donald Trump after his divorce and was married in an Episcopal Church. I have not seen her receive communion. Ivana, Trump’s first wife was also Catholic but they got married at a protestant church.

Joe Biden may also be in an illicit relationship. Biden is Catholic and receives communion regularly .

 

[gam197]

She carried her rosary on her wedding day instead of flowers as she was married in an Episcopal Church. I am sure she would not have been allowed to be married in a Catholic Church .(Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)

She had a Catholic priest do an exorcist in the Whitehouse, Father Andrew.

Did Joe Biden ever get an annulment in order to marry Jill Biden. Jill too was married to someone else.

There are millions of US Catholics who are not allowed to receive communion because of divorce.

 

[puer.dei]

So now is all of your chance to be consistent and rip Biden too.

Some of us are just going to flat out insist on being commie snowflakes and waiting for some evidence.