Kavanaugh endorsement rescinded

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I’m not American but I’m a human being and feel I’ve witnessed something cruel. He has been unfairly deprived of a reputation and social capital built over a lifetime. The only thing resembling something like a remedy would be confirmation. At this point, losing that would be a massive blow, which it would not have been 2 weeks ago. 2 weeks ago, it would’ve been just disappointing.
 
Yes, it has been a hatchet job, a character assassination, with the mob joining in.
 
A female physician friend of Marjie Lewis wrote this letter.

It can be found at:

https://www.facebook.com/marjie.lewis/posts/10217728840590177

I think it well sums up the issue (edited for brevity).
Written by a Female Physician who was wild in college:
…I was immersed in the party scene in college. I drank to excess. I had black out nights. I WAS GROPED AT FRAT PARTIES…I chose to be a part of the party scene. Because of this I had fun and I have regrets. I HAVE BEEN ASSAULTED AND NOT RAPED. I could replay a scenario like Christine Ford described as very similar to things that happened when excessive drinking occurred in my own experiences.

At the age of 25 I settled down… If any of my current patients saw my behavior back then, I could understand why they wouldn’t want me to care for them.

I feel like being a physician is every bit as important as being a Supreme Court Justice. The decisions we make over the span of our careers could change the lives of thousands of people and their descendants for years to come. The same can be said for the Supreme Court or any other political office held.
…poor choices in the past does not, and should not disqualify them.
I chugged bankers club whiskey in a cornfield and peed behind a dumpster 25 years ago. But Friday I used tiny instruments to remove infected bony partitions from the ethmoid sinus a few millimeters away from the brain. Should I have a right to operate on humans despite my past?

You are …right I do. You know why? …I spent 20 years educating myself and sacrificing countless hours to get there. I gave up so much to be good at what I do, to be confident enough in myself to put myself out there to care for people who put their lives in my hands. My hands are capable in spite of my weaknesses of the past.
Character is built partially on learning from mistakes. Brett Kavanaugh has devoted his life to public service and the past 20 years of his life is the definition of integrity. He deserves this appointment.

I AM AGAINST THE WEAPONIZATION OF VICTIMHOOD. Believing unequivocally the woman is right every single time no matter what is giving women power to take out anyone in their path. That is not equality…

No one can even place Brett Kavanaugh and the Christine Ford IN THE SAME ROOM at a party that zero people recollect except for the woman making the accusations.

If every single woman must be believed every single time, we all know there will be circumstances by which someone will use this power for selfish reasons. It sets women back so far. This is not breaking the glass ceiling. THIS IS NOT JUSTICE. THIS IS WRONG.
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She has a point that, I think, is being entirely missed in the politics.
 
I think the Democrats and their media surrogates are trying to distract us from all the great news that has been consistently occurring in this country, like the lowest unemployment rates in history for African Americans and Hispanics, as well as the lowest unemployment rate for women since 1953.
 
Thorolfr said:
It’s not at all surprisingly, at least to me, that she can’t remember the time and place. We’re not talking about something that happened recently or a few years ago. I can’t remember the time and place that most things happened over 40 years ago when I was 15. I can’t even remember the names of hardly any of the other students I went to school with back then.
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Completely beside the point.

See my last post.
 
I agree with her. Saying always believe demographic X is instituting a power dynamic that automatically puts people in X above people in Y. We must find more reasonable ways of addressing social ills than instituting discriminatory social institutions. ‘Always believe X’ is apartheid-like. No, always give both parties to a dispute equal hearing and try to be fair. There’s no other way. Will it be perfect? No. But that’s the best humans can do. We are not God and will not address every bad thing that happens.
 
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Rubee said:
I would be ok with a rejection if not for the last 2 weeks. I would be ok with the ‘Just a job interview, not a trial’ arguments.
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This is why the “just a job interview” arguments fail.

 
Thorolfr said:
It’s not at all surprisingly, at least to me, that she can’t remember the time and place.
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Sure, but without that information, there is no way to verify the incident.

It could have easily been someone else, or the details could be wrong. IMO, to destroy the man’s reputation and life over this would be a disgrace
 
ProVobis said:
And when the Democrats take control and expand the S.C. to 11 by simple majority, you can take that up with McConnell.
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I presumed the ultimate control the Dems really want involves expanding the SC to 326 million – AKA trial in the kangaroo court of public opinion by simple majority, where late night ‘comedians’ present the case for the prosecution based entirely on derision, and any defence is determined by group identity.
 
ConstantLearner said:
If Trump should appoint someone else. Even if Kavanaugh isn’t guilty, and I think he is, his time on the court would be tainted.And, he probably lied. He admitted he drinks beer (no problem there), but he said he never drank to excess in his school days. HIs classmates, for the most part, say he did.
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Actually, he admitted he did drink to excess, but he claimed he never blanked out.
He didn’t lie, but you are definitely stretching the truth by what you are claiming.

So he drank to excess?
What about doing drugs enthusiastically?

Apparently, by your own standards, even if he isn’t guilty of anything serious, Obama’s time as president has been “tainted” and by his own admission.

Funny how consistency just seems to disappear when ideology is at stake.
 
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ConstantLearner said:
If Trump should appoint someone else. Even if Kavanaugh isn’t guilty, and I think he is, his time on the court would be tainted.And, he probably lied.
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So lying should disqualify a witness or a candidate?

A past boyfriend of Blasey Ford’s has come forward with a letter to the committee. It indicates a number of discrepancies with her testimony.
  1. Ford claimed she NEVER coached anyone taking a polygraph. Apparently she coached a friend taking a polygraph when her friend applied for work with the FBI and the US attorney’s office.
  2. Ford claimed fear of flying, but this man flew with her in a small propeller plane and she had no fear issues during the flight.
  3. Ford lived in a very small house with only one door while in Hawaii, and showed no claustrophobia issues.
  4. Ford never mentioned any traumatic event or assault, nor showed any symptoms of such.
  5. Ford lied about using this man’s credit card without permission and charged $600 worth of purchases to it.
 
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Untrue. Credible accusations are not the same as false claims…
 
What about justice for the alleged victims? Y’all are obsessed with scandal on this site… his behavior, even his admitted behavior, was scandalous.
 
They are not looking for justice. You don’t find justice by derailing a nomination. You go to the police and then to court where everyone can get a fair hearing and truth can be sorted from error as best as humans are able to do. Mobs have never provided justice from the day of Jesus to St. Stephen to the present day.
 
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@Padres1969 As a woman I feel a need for movements like metoo in changing social norms in a way that’s respectful of women especially around sex but not to act as a replacement for due process and fairness. Women are just as sinful as men and as capable of lies as are men. Creating an institution that requires denying a plain truth like that is dangerous. Every instance of abuse is a unique matter involving specific individuals. You don’t just decide before any facts that person X must be believed over person Y. That’s insane!
 
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I’ll have to disagree. These are crimes for whom time has eliminated traditional forms of justice. Much as victims of such crimes in the Catholic Church. Mob justice is the only form of justice they’ll get. Derailing a nomination is just an advantageous byproduct saving the rest of us from their abusers.
 
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I will join you in your mob justice as soon as you show me how you determine truth from falsehood.
 
Given the odds person A is telling the truth, and has little reason to lie, are well over 90% in cases of rape and abuse, I’d also disagree.
 
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Is the person sayin they were raped or sexually abused? Then they’re is a very high probability they are telling the truth.
 
Yes, I’ve heard that too, but I’ve also heard that this statistics you use are skewed in that they don’t account for the over 45% of rape allegations where the case doesn’t proceed at all for lack of any evidence. This means with Kavanugh that you’re using statistics drawn from cases that have been factually tested for veracity to judge a case that has not met such a standard, and that’s a great deal unjust.
 
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