Lawyers: We can't find parents of 545 kids separated by Trump administration

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Anonkun said:
So what’s your alternative?
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I am not the one who is in charge.
Anonkun said:
I also am very suspicious of claims that these were “asylum seekers.”
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Your suspicion is not grounds (much less legal grounds) for such treatment of the CHILDREN. Especially, since there is no database, which would establish their relationships with the adults they were separated from. So there is no way to reunite them.
 
When we break the laws in this country we don’t get our children sequestered and misplaced.

The relationship between parents and children is important.

It is a cruel policy.

It doesn’t need to be defended.
 
This is the unfortunate result of crime: those who perpetrate it can make their own children suffer needlessly.
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Well I don’t share your views on crime generally, but the question still hasn’t been answered as to whether it’s really illegal to enter a country without permission. You need to be in the country to claim asylum, it seems very strange. Immigrants are basically just batted about by governments willy-nilly, existing in some weird legal limbo which is contradictory.

Why do you think people immigrate in this way?
 
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Anonkun said:
As the responsible party, law enforcement will have to ensure the children are properly sent to safer guardians.
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You mean put into cages, like a bunch of animals?
F_Marturana said:
It doesn’t need to be defended.
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To be more precise: it is a shame to defend such a policy. As we all know, the whole process was initiated by Stephen Miller, whose xenophobia is well known.
 
RhodesianSon said:
Do we read the same forum? Because I see more people like you who don’t like Trump than those who do.
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They are shocked when they exit their echo chambers and find people who have good reason to like Trump’s policies.
 
Rockoh22 said:
Where this children really with their parents? Or where they used as a prop to get trough? Happens a lot.
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I haven’t seen that this was a factor in the separation. Child with and without their parents were separated from them.
 
ThinkingSapien said:
I haven’t seen that this was a factor in the separation. Child with and without their parents were separated from them.
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Not sure what you mean by this. As for this article in the OP it lacks a lot of substance and clarity.

Di you not know that many, and I mean many kids are used as props, sex slaves and drug smuggling amongst other things. Do we as a nation know those where their parents?

Now, those that did come with their parents. Why we can not unite them? What is the solution? What is the recommendation?
 
Rockoh22 said:
Not sure what you mean by this.
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There was a stated reason for the separation. It was to discourage others from coming. Had child separations been limited to children that were not travelling with a relative then that would have supported the argument that it was from concern of a non-relative having unrightful possession of the child. But in the absence of outcomes that are differentiated by the child being with a parent/relative, the relationship status doesn’t appear to be a factor in the action taken.
 
ThinkingSapien said:
There was a stated reason for the separation. It was to discourage others from coming.
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No, the stated reason was to protect children who may not have been traveling with their actual parents. Discouraging illegal immigration may be a desired effect, but I doubt it was a stated goal.
 
Federalist article today:

The former vice president was likely relying on a brief report from NPR about the latest development in a lawsuit between the ACLU and the Justice Department regarding the status of children who have still not been reunited with their parents after being brought across the border illegally.

The report claims that “the parents of 545 children still can’t be found,” but that’s not quite right. The NPR report omitted a statement issued by Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Chase Jennings explaining that in fact the vast majority of these parents have been found but have refused reunification with their children, which is why the children are still in DHS custody.

“In the current litigation, for example, out of the parents of 485 children whom Plaintiffs’ counsel has been able to contact*, they’ve yet to identify a single family that wants their child reunited with them in their country of origin,”** Jennings said.*
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See article for more.
 
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Women and children crossing together illegally into the United States could be separated by U.S. authorities under a proposal being considered by the Department of Homeland Security, according to three government officials.
Part of the reason for the proposal is to deter mothers from migrating to the United States with their children, said the officials, who have been briefed on the proposal.
 
It should.

Adding, a mom nursing a baby is obviously not a child smuggler.
 
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The whole story has fallen apart.



#Illegal immigrant charged in 3 DUI deaths now also facing weapons counts, authorities say

Emotional arguments should be ignored until those so so-called compassionate, acknowledge all of the dath coming across the border,

Fentanyl killing thousands of Americans a year.

It happened in St. Paul, an (illegal?) immigrant killed a legal immigrant from Ethiopia while she was sitting in a park with her Hispanic boyfriend by the way. He had no right to drive a car.

All kinds of these stories:


Let’s not be pro-life just to suit our purposes, illegal immigration is not pro-life. Discard false outrage, what about other people?
 
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PaulinVA said:
I think it is (rhetorically) criminal to separate children from parents at the border and not have some system like at hospital delivery room where they give matching wristbands to mom and baby.

Of course they lost track of them. They knew they would. It’s a feature, not a bug.
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Please prove they were separated at the border. Otherwise, this statement is scurrilous.

It’s also rhetorically criminal to allow open borders where American citizens suffer as victims of crime, sometimes even death.
 
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