Xavier, this response fails to answer mine. People don’t give birth to natures, they give birth to people. Christ was God. Mary gave birth to Him. Mary is Christ’s mother. Mary is the mother of God. No matter how much you protest this, it is Scriptural and common sensical.
you’re right - you keep repeating this. and we repeatedly respond…
While I agree that only grace can change a man’s heart, I disagree in the first place that Catholics here are worked up to a point they need to “settle down”, and in the second place I disagree that we should stop because it is not going to convert him. That is not why I do it. I do it for the benefit of lurkers. When we give answers to objections even if they have been given a hundred times, it may be the first time for someone new. Also, when our naysayers continue to misrepresent the Catholic teaching, it speaks volumes about him. Give them enough rope and they will hang their own arguments.
I guess we have a difference in philosophy then Scott. I, in fact, have read along with this entire thread. While you may not be worked up, I can clearly see that there are some who are. And while I do agree that we should not completely give up. I think there is a time when a thread has run it’s course. This thread has reached that point. The “naysayers” have repeated the same mistakes over and over. Just point them back to the thread. The answers are already there.
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then God is divided. The part that walked the earth and was born of Mary, walked with the part that was God and predated the vessel used to incubate Him.
I am trying to get you to think out of the box.
Good point Benadam. To take this argument one step further, I would like to pose a question that has serious implications. If Christ is divided by his two natures. Which nature was crucified?
If you had faith in God why not ask Him?
Xavier, because he asked you. Answer the question. You are dodging, and that is dishonest.
Xavier, if you will scroll back you will find that I presented that as true my first post on the subject. I said it’s true that all Christians participate in the function of the Ark as carrier of the covenant from age to age. I also introduced the law written on our hearts as natural and part of what Christ restored. But you are mistaken to think that the law written on our hearts is a covenant with God. It’s not. It’s a covenant broken with our own conscience. The covenant with God is of a higher order and is supernatural. He is Christ
Neither. Since God predates creation and is everlasting as well not to mention far beyond the reach of death, it couldn’t have been Him on the cross in reality but a projected image that served to teach humanity the lesson of the cross. Forget which heresy that was.
sigh.
Stop it your better than that.
question #3: do you believe that jesus is god?
Xavier, I love how you conveniently manage to ignore his points. Theological assertions mean squat if you don’t reason them through. ONE MORE TIME: If Christ is divided because of his two natures, WHICH NATURE WAS CRUCIFIED?
Now we are getting somewhere.
I’m guessing that you get some type of pleasure by trying to dispute biblical truths. If you truly do believe that Mary was not the mother of God, then you are one of the few who adhere to that belief…even among most protestant circles!
Xavier, on that same note. no human mother is the mother of the human nature her child possesses either. Sorry if I offended you. I appreciate your participation in this forum and appreciate the difficulties it can pose.