Spot on! Yes, the old Holy Father wasn’t perhaps as tight on some matters liturgical as he might have been, but I hardly think that the Servant of God, John Paul II, should be indicted for mercy and the abiding hope that people might realize the ridiculousness of some of this stuff. I don’t think he was neglectful and I don’t think he didn’t care.
Some of those sites can hardly be called “Catholic”- they are radicals on the fringe of the traditionalist movement, many being Sedevacantist. I dont see the websites for the ICRSS or Una Voce plastering pictures of liturgical abuses all over their sites, screaming that the Holy Father is a heretic.
John Paul II was a very holy man, but he tried too hard to appease everyone and ended up making some unfortunate concessions to do so. He also neglected some of the more adminstrative facets of his Holy Office (such as the appointment of Bishops…), especialy early on in his Papacy.
Good for you.
Why are you Anti-Tridentine?
It does. LOL Terriable!
We’ll have to disagree on the appeasin’ and the appointin’ (as for the latter, check out how the Holy Father actually does appoint bishops. Like the making of sausage, I’m not sure I would want to be witness to it).
I take it you mean disobedient.
I agree…complain to get something done.
Right…I don’t think God cares about buildings.
Will the “anti-Tridentiners” please stand up? Really, are there any here?
Actually I was referring to nc’s position that people outside the Church were watching what’s going on inside the Church.
I think this one’s my favorite:
JKirk;
http://www.answers.com/main/images/cLeftBottom.gif http://www.answers.com/main/images/cRightBottom.gifI think running the Church, governing and shepherding the Church, is a LOT more complicated than that. Bishops hold apostolic office themselves, they’re not SIMPLY the pope’s area managers. Yeah, some of them are apparently a little wing-nutty, but pragmatically, he has to be cautious about throwing his weight around. People keep wanting Pope Benedict to DO something, ANYTHING. If it was just simply a matter of calling the shots and expecting results immediately, I doubt that there would a better man for the job that Joseph Ratzinger (and there isn’t a better man for the job, or the Holy Spirit would have picked HIM. That there is something more to the job than that can (I think) be seen in the fact that he’s NOT simply yelling into a bull horn outside the LA cathedral,“Hey, Roger, you and your cronies, genuflect on out here toot suite! Don’t make me come in there!”
Does anyone have some good ideas on how to approach the Principal of my children’s Catholic school on this matter. I know they are all required to go to this conference and it makes my stomach sick. This conference and everything there now trickles down to my children. I want to handle it tactfully so I don’t come off like the “bull in a china shop” that I really want to be. It will only make her defensive.Just Google all the speakers and find out what type of heresy they have been preaching (others have done that and it’s amazing what they came up with), and then stand your ground and tell the principal you won’t expose your child to such heresy. Just take him out of school for the conference and have him write an essay instead on the saints or some other Catholic subject.
When it comes to the children we all must be proactive and try to put an end to this heresy!!!
If the list of speakers (there may be some good ones mixed in, I dunno, I’m so flummoxed by the ONE name that stands out from the rest, for me at least) doesn’t frighten a priest, then that priest needs to be educated as to what is and isn’t heresy.
I actually saw this, last month, when I was in San Jose at a conference (my hotel was further to the left than this picture and I walked by it everyday). Truth to tell, it isn’t badly done and it is(partially) representative of Meso-American culture. I think the point is that it wouldn’t be appropriate in a church setting and that, sadly, neither is his Lady of the Angels statue (Our Lady of the Romulans, more like).