Michele Bachmann Expected to Form GOP Exploratory Committee

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In other words, it’s easier to exploit gullibility than to promote rational debate, but ultimately the aim is to get a candidate who doesn’t believe the spin that’s got many of his supporters in a tizzy?!
That’s the model. I am not endorsing it, I am merely describing it.
 
Here are the U.S. Treasury Dept’s numbers:

Item… Fiscal Year 2009 …Fiscal Year 2010

Revenues …$ 2104 billion …$ 2102 Billion

Expenses …$ 3520 Billion …$ 3456 Billion

Deficit …$1416 Billion …$1294 Billion

So, to balance the budget, we have got to cut about $1300 Billion

Michele Bachmann has identified one item to cut, so far, for $105 billion

Need to find another $1200 Billion in cuts.

How much in cuts have the other politicians suggested?

The politicians don’t actually tell you the actual revenues and proposed spending (budget)

They complain about what percent here or there.

But rarely tell you the actuals.

So we don’t actually have the actuals for FY 2011 or even part of the fiscal year.

We need to write in the proposed budget for FY2011. The problem is the Congress is REQUIRED to submit an approved budget by October or so of 2010 and they didn’ t do it.

So the government is getting by on a month to month basis with what they call continuing resolutions.

If you visit Yahoo Finance and look up the financials for any corporation, they have three pages for each … income/expenses; balance sheet [assets and liabilities/ debt]; cash flow

And Yahoo has it for each public corporation for three years of history, by year and by quarter.

And if you get the company’s annual report you might find as much as 10-years data.

BUT, you won’t find ANY of the actual revenues and spending for any government … not for states, not for cities, not for Federal.

You should be able to type in the zip code or postal abbreviation and get all of that data with one click of the keyboard.

Here are the data for GE

finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=GE&annual

Why can’t you get the data for NYC or NYS or USA?
 
IMO, they work together. The GOP leadership understands this and wants to use Bachmann and others like her as useful tools to raising cash and turning out the vote. But most of the so-called leadership do not buy into the mythology so they have to walk a fine line that takes advantage of the myths without either adopting them or denying them. See, for example, Huck’s bizarre triangulation on birther issues. I think the better course is the one laid out by Pawlenty and a few others - simply come out and say you don’t buy into the crazy. That will make him a better candidate in Nov, assuming he can get there.
So, what you are saying is that Bachmann is great for turning out the votes and the money, but noone will actually vote FOR her, they’ll just get out and vote because of her?
 
In other words, it’s easier to exploit gullibility than to promote rational debate, but ultimately the aim is to get a candidate who doesn’t believe the spin that’s got many of his supporters in a tizzy?!
Of course its easy to exploit gullibility. Look at who won the last election. 👍
 
Of course its easy to exploit gullibility. Look at who won the last election. 👍
Why go back that far? Look at who won the mid-terms - better still, look at who thinks they can win the presidency by going ‘birther’ on us!
 
Why go back that far? Look at who won the mid-terms - better still, look at who thinks they can win the presidency by going ‘birther’ on us!
You got it backwards. The Tea Party wins in the last election cycle were candidates who came out the the Tea Party ranks. Obama was presented as the Savior of All of Earth, and people fainted and swooned at his public events. The fact that the media was complicit in pushing the Obama nomination over Hillary Clinton only exacerbates this fact.

Where did the whole “birther” thing come from? Non-sequitor, and not even an interesting one.
 
Thought this was a neat article on why Bachmann became a conservative.

Bachmann and “Burr"
commentarymagazine.com/2011/04/04/bachmann-and-burr/

Snippet from the article:
Bachmann likes to tell audiences that she was once a loyal Democrat who worked for Jimmy Carter’s election in 1976. But unlike other conservatives who saw the light after reading William F. Buckley or even Ayn Rand, for Bachmann it was novelist and onetime liberal cultural icon Gore Vidal. According to the congresswoman, her epiphany came when reading Vidal’s 1973 bestseller Burr, a historical novel in which the founders’ story is turned upside down. The treacherous Burr is Vidal’s hero, while Washington, Jefferson, and Hamilton are depicted as wicked bunglers and fakes. Her reading of this book was the moment when she realized that liberals hate America, Bachmann says, and that it was time to cross the aisle.
 
You got it backwards. The Tea Party wins in the last election cycle were candidates who came out the the Tea Party ranks. Obama was presented as the Savior of All of Earth, and people fainted and swooned at his public events. The fact that the media was complicit in pushing the Obama nomination over Hillary Clinton only exacerbates this fact.
Yeah…that’s not at all the way any of it happened.
Where did the whole “birther” thing come from? Non-sequitor, and not even an interesting one.
Its a reference to the farcical campaign of one Donald Trump.
 
Oh please, do tell us how it all happened. 🍿
I’d like to see these videos of this supposed mass fainting and swooning, the point in the campaign where Obama called himself the savior of all earth (as opposed to the growing Republican line of "elect us NOW or the country is doomed! DOOMED!), and where the media won the primaries for Barack Obama, as opposed to his superior campaign organization (seriously, read the Newsweek series-the Clinton campaign wasn’t prepared for a long primary race, and was far behind Obama when the time came for the late primaries; he and his advisers chose a better strategy and their campaign had more legs).
 
Thought this was a neat article on why Bachmann became a conservative.

Bachmann and “Burr"
commentarymagazine.com/2011/04/04/bachmann-and-burr/

Snippet from the article:
Well, if that story is true, then she’s even less respectable than I thought she is. That “liberals really hate America” line is tiresome and insulting-among 20th century president alone, you have Teddy Roosevelt (champion of the 1900’s progressives and 1912 Bull Moose nominee, commanded the Rough Riders in the Spanish American War), Harry Truman (the Fair Deal, artillery captain in World War II), John Kennedy (PT-Boat Commander in the Second World War), and Jimmy Carter (graduate of the Naval Academy). But they all hated America, right?

Seriously, Gore Vidal proves that all liberals hate America? That’s almost astonishingly ignorant.
 
Well, if that story is true, then she’s even less respectable than I thought she is. That “liberals really hate America” line is tiresome and insulting-among 20th century president alone, you have Teddy Roosevelt (champion of the 1900’s progressives and 1912 Bull Moose nominee, commanded the Rough Riders in the Spanish American War), Harry Truman (the Fair Deal, artillery captain in World War II), John Kennedy (PT-Boat Commander in the Second World War), and Jimmy Carter (graduate of the Naval Academy). But they all hated America, right?

Seriously, Gore Vidal proves that all liberals hate America? That’s almost astonishingly ignorant.
The only one you mentioned that would be considered a liberal by today’s standards was Carter and he was more incompetent than he was My only problem with Vidals book was it was poorly written .

I think there is little doubt that John Kennedy especially would find what passes for liberalism today to be repugnant.
 
The only one you mentioned that would be considered a liberal by today’s standards was Carter and he was more incompetent than he was My only problem with Vidals book was it was poorly written .
Really? Teddy Roosevelt wouldn’t be considered a liberal? Running on a platform that includes a national health care plan, an inheritance tax (the hated Republican “death tax”), an early form of social security, and federal protection for unions isn’t good enough to make him a liberal?

Truman’s Fair Deal, with its public housing projects, attempted national health care plan, expansion of social security, and federal support for education isn’t liberal?

Heck, by that standard FDR and LBJ are conservatives. By that standard, so am I!

And what does Carter’s competence have to do with whether or not liberals hate America? I’m not trying to defend Jimmy Carter’s record (I can do that somewhere else), I’m trying to prove that he doesn’t hate America. That I have do it shows the depths of ridiculousness to which Bachmann has plunged.

For example, Robert Bohn of Oshkoh
I think there is little doubt that John Kennedy especially would find what passes for liberalism today to be repugnant.
Perhaps; abortion would be an issue that might drive him out of the Democratic Party, but he certainly wouldn’t be in favor of slicing social security and federal aid to education. He’d certainly be pro-union. Those three things disqualify him from being a Republican.
 
Well, if that story is true, then she’s even less respectable than I thought she is. That “liberals really hate America” line is tiresome and insulting-among 20th century president alone, you have Teddy Roosevelt (champion of the 1900’s progressives and 1912 Bull Moose nominee, commanded the Rough Riders in the Spanish American War), Harry Truman (the Fair Deal, artillery captain in World War II), John Kennedy (PT-Boat Commander in the Second World War), and Jimmy Carter (graduate of the Naval Academy). But they all hated America, right?

Seriously, Gore Vidal proves that all liberals hate America? That’s almost astonishingly ignorant.
Read “None Dare Call It Treason” by John A. Stormer.

It extensively documents all of the work of the “progressives” to convert the United States from a republic to a socialist state.

Shouldn’t be too difficult to get a copy and actually read it and its extensive notes.
 
Read “None Dare Call It Treason” by John A. Stormer.

It extensively documents all of the work of the “progressives” to convert the United States from a republic to a socialist state.

Shouldn’t be too difficult to get a copy and actually read it and its extensive notes.
Neither should it be too difficult to get your hands on a copy of Edmund Morris’s biography of TR, or perhaps of David McCullough’s of Harry Truman, both of which put the lie to that charge.

I’d be glad to hear some of the specific charges, though, especially against TR.
 
Why go back that far? Look at who won the mid-terms - better still, look at who thinks they can win the presidency by going ‘birther’ on us!
The only person of prominence that believes that is Donald Trump and he isn’t going to be nominated. Don’t worry about it.
 
Obama was presented as the Savior of All of Earth, and people fainted and swooned at his public events.
You used a specific title, “Savior of All the Earth.” Who addressed him with that title and on what occasion? Please provide a a link because this seems to be no more than the product of your imagination.

The same with fainting and swooning.
 
You used a specific title, “Savior of All the Earth.” Who addressed him with that title and on what occasion? Please provide a a link because this seems to be no more than the product of your imagination.

The same with fainting and swooning.
What about the Frenchman who exclaimed, “I have seen God,” when Barack Obama visited France? Or all of the young (and not so young) people who thought that he was the great hope (do not you remember people painting doors and walls with his image)? Or that girl who wrote a song about him?
 
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