Minneapolis Riots

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Yes, that’s not in Longfellow. So I cannot comment on who did that. I can only comment on my first-hand experience in my neighborhood.
 
Yes, they are privileged in the sense that they do not need to worry about certain things (which they take for granted) that people of these other groups (straight means heterosexual, by the way) do have in the back or front of their mind.

For example, women need to be fashion conscious when they go on a job interview, including their hairstyle. Men can just put on a suit and tie and they’re done. Women have to consider whether they might appear not conservative enough or overly conservative, and so on. They are more judged by their appearance, which includes their weight, than men. In other words, no matter how qualified a woman may be for a job, she has to pay attention to how she looks and how she behaves; men much less so. And men may not even be aware that women have this extra concern.

Same kind of situation for POC (don’t speak in stereotyped way) gay people (don’t speak or act in stereotyped way) non-Christians (don’t even talk about your religious views; this may also apply to devout Christians); the disabled (don’t focus on your disability, even if it is obvious; you can do the job regardless). No matter how liberal an institution may be, these groups have additional concerns, even fears to contend with.
 
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Unless the man going for a job interview is an older man. Then they are also an “endangered species.” Ageism is prevalent and it is so very hard to prove. I remember once when I was (only) 50 going on an interview and actually being asked whether I thought I had enough energy to handle the job. It was an administrative position in a school, not coal mining.
 
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That doesn’t mean that none of them live in Minneapolis.

I just found data that ~8% of the force lives in Minneapolis and a couple actually do live in Longfellow. Most of them live a few minutes north in Andover
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Andover is not Minneapolis. The fact a few do live here is not news. It also doesn’t change the fact that I’ve never experienced having seen any at all as a resident.


 
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Andover is not Minneapolis.
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No, it’s not. I never said it was. Personally, I haven’t worked in the same town I live in for over 25 years. I’d also say it’s not news to not live in the town you work in (especially in the metro)
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The fact a few do live here is not news. It also doesn’t change the fact that I’ve never experienced having seen any at all as a resident.
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Well, to be fair, your comment sounded as an attempt to make it sound as if no MPD actually live in Minneapolis. Personally, I don’t remember the last time I saw/ran into an off duty officer as a resident. Odds are, I probably did and didn’t know it. I know when I see someone in town and nod or smile to them I don’t say “Hi, I’m an engineer”. 🤷‍♂️
 
I don’t think the people harassing the police, looting, and burning stores are voters at all. They have no desire to change the system through legal means and they have no understanding of the history of the United States including racism. They are not legitimate protesters, but rather simply criminals.
 
Meltzerboy I feel like you’re painting a picture of 1950s or 1960s America, not present day USA. I would say the current situation is the exact opposite to what you describe.

You think people of colour or gay people are afraid of saying the wrong thing or acting the wrong way? If anyone is afraid to say or do the wrong thing these days, in fear of being given one of the many negative labels that have been prepared for them, it’s those privileged straight white men you speak of.

You really think non-Christians are afraid to voice their opinions in the US? I hear nothing but constant criticism/mocking of Christianity and the Church, particularly the Catholic church. If anything, it’s Christians who are afraid to voice their opinions publicly. In many states saying you are against with gay marriage is akin to saying you want to throw a baby into a river.

I am really not seeing what you’re seeing.
 
MLK spoke the truth here:
“ Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere . We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.”
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We live in a country that codified into law the slaughter of small human beings.
And we expect racial justice and economic justice to happen by magic?
The core of this problem is the intentionally chosen stupidity that Paul spoke about in Romans 1
 
TC3033 said:
That doesn’t mean that none of them live in Minneapolis.

I just found data that ~8% of the force lives in Minneapolis and a couple actually do live in Longfellow. Most of them live a few minutes north in Andover.
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The argument that police officers living in suburbs somehow makes them bad at policing in an urban area falls flat. I think of Vancouver in Canada, where a substantial number don’t live in the city itself. Same with London in the UK. The real problem is too many American officers feel force is the first thing that’s needed.
 
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Wow. No words.

Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington, though, was nonplussed, saying…“What is that weird book? We’ve literally never seen one before,” she said in a CNN interview. “No real Christian reveres a book like that. Well, maybe the Communist Manifesto or something. But not an old-looking leather book. It looks like one of those religious books, and Jesus wasn’t about religion. He was about causing societal upheaval and burning things down.”
 
The best argument for not requiring police to live in the city they work for is the way police are being treated in these riots. (How important is safety for you in your home?)

I bet there are neighborhoods in . Minneapolis that are very different from where most police spend most of their time, de facto suburbs.
When cities enact residency requirements, invariably there is corruption about enforcement and invasion of privacy. Some good quality candidates are ruled out, even if they grew up in the city but recently moved out. You want to recruit the best talent in the the area.

Limit your talent pool, ?
 
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1267966657621884930

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Finally, what might be called the “upper working class” in hub cities is dominated by a different group of public servants, particularly police, first responders, and jail and prison guards. This stratum of the working class increasingly is racially diverse. Law enforcement officers tend to be from working-class families, but are unionized and tend to earn more and have better benefits than low-income immigrant workers or the native urban poor. In some parts of the country the police and fire fighters can afford to live in low-end suburbs and commute to work in the cities.
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Thus the kindling accumulates until it is ignited by some incident at the interface between the urban public sector and the urban poor. Usually a police killing or beating triggers an eruption of protest in a hub city. Even if the protest is peaceful at first, it is often hijacked by criminal gangs for whom it is an opportunity for looting. This was the story of major U.S. urban riots between WWII and the 21st century. (Most so-called “race riots” in the United States between the Civil War and WWII were different; they were violent pogroms by working-class whites against black competitors for jobs and neighborhoods, who were sometimes brought up from the South by industrial corporations as strikebreakers.)
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What is new about the nationwide riots of the last week that have followed the death of George Floyd is the convergence of these two previously separate streams—traditional urban riots in poor neighborhoods triggered by police-related incidents, and the ideologically motivated vandalism by young white members of the overclass in downtown districts. This convergence is the result of hub city gentrification.
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https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/hub-city-riot-ninjas
 
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Ha! Got me. Lol. I’m not sure what to believe anymore. Evil is good. Up is down. Cheese is five. Circles are hairy. Yikes.
 
The Babylon Bee deftly skewers the left and right in one short article. Brilliant! 🤣
 
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