More "woke" brainwashing before and during Toy Story 4

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I sometimes run educational programs to get girls more interested in science. There’s been a big push to conduct these sorts of efforts since at least the mid-90s. It’s just not working. As someone quoted above, the stats for female participation in STEM has gone down if anything, despite all the efforts to get girls excited about STEM.
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Why?

I posted earlier about my friend who felt “obligated” to become an engineer because she was smart, and she hated it.

I agree that many girls/women DO truly like STEMC, but I also think that many girls/women DON"T like STEMC. Do you think it’s possible that continued messages to embrace STEMC creates a resentment in girls that causes them to not only dislike STEMC, but to avoid it and possibly even sabotage any attempts to require them to take classes and achieve a minimum competency? I think this happens.

I think that many girls/women just don’t like STEMC, and they DO like English, philosophy, history, music, films, theater, psychology, and the life sciences.

And I think many girls/women really DO like cooking, sewing, gardening, and other home-making skills, and they really DO like work that involves caring for others (nursing, teaching, medicine, psychology, and the arts–which provide “food” for the souls of humans).

As I said earlier, those who teach, coach, and care for children should help them to discover their “natural bent,” not try to persuade them to “like” something that they just don’t like.
 
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Peeps said:
I think that many girls/women just don’t like STEMC, and they DO like English, philosophy, history, music, films, theater, psychology, and the life sciences.
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I think part of the problem lies in this either/or thinking. You either like English OR you like science. You either like caring for children OR you like theater. It is possible to like both. As I stated above, I was an English major in college and I really liked that. But now I’m considering more technical work. And I really like that too. They aren’t mutually exclusive.
 
I saw the film today, and maybe its because I wasn’t focusing as much on the background at the time, but the lesbian couple must have been almost subliminal. They didn’t have any lines…
 
I think the lack of interest among girls to go into STEM may be with how it’s taught. Introductory courses in STEM are usually graded on a curve and operated with a weedout mentality. Maybe if STEM courses are redesigned in a way that promotes cooperation, rather than competition, between students, then more girls who start out in STEM would remain. I absolutely hated my college STEM courses despite enjoying the same subject matter in high school precisely because of this. Students would sometimes even sabotage their peers.
 
Ahhhhh! This thread has so many layers of wrongness, I don’t even know where to start! I’m overwhelmed.
First of all, women have always enjoyed scientific topics. They just refered to them by more socially acceptable names like “nature”, “medicine”, “nursing”, “teaching”, and “culinary arts”. It’s completely bogus that there are entire subject areas of learning that are considered “male” or “female”. The sciences are part of a well-rounded education necessary for being a functioning adult. Furthermore, humans of both sex should be interested in the sciences because we’re flipping human beings and that’s kind of our thing! And when did we start giving our youth passes on the study of entire subjects because that isn’t what they’re going to do for a living? The problem has never been that girls are under-represented in PHD level chemistry programs. In fact, current numbers suggest they aren’t. But those only represent a tiny fraction of the general population anyway. The problem is that girls are failing to pass and even take high school science classes and are falling behind in test scores by the 4th grade! That is not okay. This isn’t the level of science needed to cure disease or land on the moon. We’re talking the science comprehension needed for common daily activities, working normal careers, making informed medical decisions, voting on important issues, or being able to carry on a conversation without looking like a complete nitwit. The pervasive idea that girls hear from a young age that science is a “boy thing” does, in fact, put them at a disadvantage when they grow up. The current trend of encouraging girls to like science is a good thing, but it isn’t near enough to make up for the years of subtle messages that girls aren’t supposed to like science and girl scientists are “weird” that they get at home and from peers. Lastly, while its true that not everyone has a gift for science, I firmly believe that no one should be told that it’s because they are a girl. When you say garbage like that, it might make the scientifically-insecure feel marginally better that she struggles with chemistry. But it doesn’t just effect her. It effects her little sister when she goes home and tells her that it’s fine if she stinks at chem because it’s not a “girl subject”. It hurts the girl across the room that overheard and decides not to take any science her junior and senior year. And it hurts the girl who loves science and is good at it, but gives it up so she doesn’t seem “weird”.
 
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tstadheim said:
I sometimes run educational programs to get girls more interested in science. There’s been a big push to conduct these sorts of efforts since at least the mid-90s. It’s just not working. As someone quoted above, the stats for female participation in STEM has gone down if anything, despite all the efforts to get girls excited about STEM.
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My girlie-girl daughter loves robotics and programming and she’s good at it.
My tomboy daughter hates all things science.
 
None have ever been more asleep at the wheel than the woke generation.

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Peeps said:
I think that many girls/women just don’t like STEMC, and they DO like English, philosophy, history, music, films, theater, psychology, and the life sciences.
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Do girls/women not like STEM subjects and like the humanities? Or are they pigeon-holed and taught that math and science are for boys? Because that was what they taught girls when I was in grade school - and I’m only 35.

Because, if girls/women like philosophy, then philosophy departments across the world have a HUGE problem getting them into the department. Philosophy is one of the most notorious boys’ club subjects and departments try very hard to get women involved and interested in the field that as long been for white men mostly. Which is sad because philosophy done from a single point of view is bad philosophy.
 
Also. I don’t understand how it’s brainwashing to acknowledge that LGBTQ people exist. It’s an undisputed fact that they do. A flash of a lesbian couple dropping their kid off at school isn’t an endorsement of behavior. It’s a true and natural depiction of fact.
 
Rhubarb said:
Do girls/women not like STEM subjects and like the humanities? Or are they pigeon-holed and taught that math and science are for boys? Because that was what they taught girls when I was in grade school - and I’m only 35.
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I’m a bit older than you and women’s liberation and “girls can do anything boys can do” was all the rage (watch old episodes of the Brady Bunch—it was a real discussion at the time)
 
It’s interesting you mention ‘The Brady Bunch’ because I seem to remember an episode in which Mr Brady (did he have a first name?) wanted Greg to be an architect like himself but Greg deep down didn’t like it, even though he pretended to in order to please his father. It didn’t occur to me at the time but why not encourage Marcia to be an architect?
 
Crunch Fitness has fake rainbow decorations in their windows to “celebrate pride,” and they’re peddling some garish “gay” workout apparel or towels and whatnot.
I’ll keep my membership because they don’t ban concealed carry like Planet Fitness or 24 Hour do. I’m sure they’re on the “pride” bandwagon too, anyway.
 
I go lots of places with my sister and my kids. Maybe even dropping the kids off at school.
 
Rhubarb said:
Do girls/women not like STEM subjects and like the humanities? Or are they pigeon-holed and taught that math and science are for boys? Because that was what they taught girls when I was in grade school - and I’m only 35.
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Of course there are plenty of girls/women who love STEMC subjects and dislike humanities. And there are plenty of girls/women who dislike STEMC subjects and love the humanities. And then there are the girls/women who hate ALL the subjects and just want to do gym class all day! And there are the girls/women who love ALL the subjects and become doctors who also play the pipe organ and who also run marathons and who also raise ten children!

I have two daughters. One loved all the humanities, and hated all things science and math. She did well in the subjects in school and graduated 2nd in her class. Thankfully when she got to college where she majored in theater arts, the only two “STEMC” subjects that she was required to take used the same books that she had already been through in high school, so she never went to class and never studied except on test days, and ended up getting “Bs” in both classes.

The other daughter loved math and the sciences and hated all the humanities. She never read any of the assigned books in her English classes, but got perfect scores on all the tests because she listened to the lectures and grasped the main points of the book (e.g., those awful questions like, “Describe the 5 “catalysts” in the main character’s life that caused him to choose to become a murderer.”)

We raised both daughters the same way, but by the time they were in school, it was already obvious that they were very different.

Again, parents should encourage a child to follow their “natural bent.”
 
Specifically, “woke” is used to mean “awoke to social injustice, as currently defined by progressives.”

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