And some of these ‘happy converts’ as you call them cant wait till they get back to their original religion. 75% in fact when they find out what the real islam is and not the watered down version of islam.
councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=4198.0
And a large minority will stay, and you can’t ignore a large number like that.
That is because they need support groups, as women in islam are treated rather poorly.
There are several passages suggesting women are beneath men, not as smart as men, can be beaten by their husband, more women in hell than men etc. Of course you are going to need a support group dealing with issues, and many others like these!
These type of support groups exist because Islam teaches segregation of genders, and especially for certain issues (such as marriage issues, pregnancy and children, hijab and the like) it is considered proper to ask another woman only. It is also a useful source of faith support for women. It can also be the only time those women have to socialize, as Islam forbids mixed socializing between those who are ghayr mahraam (non-relatives)
And this is no different to many other religions. My local Orthodox synagogue has a women-only prayer group and other women-only events, My last church had a women-only meeting, which I used to help in running along with a women’s prayer team and other things.
Why are you comparing the west against a religion? The ‘west’ isnt a Christian religion the last time i checked, however, Catholicism is a religion, and I will compare islam with that.
Catholics do dress modestly, in fact, i myself dress modestly.
Here is what the bible says:
1 tim 9 Similarly, women are to wear suitable clothes and to be dressed quietly and modestly, without braided hair or gold and jewellery or expensive clothes;
10 their adornment is to do the good works that are proper for women who claim to be religious.
Whilst you may personally follow modesty rules, there are plenty of Christians who do not. Indeed, modesty in dress and action is something that is RARELY discussed in any church now, and it’s something I only really thought about when I read the Qur’an and made Muslim friends.
Ive been to Egypt, and i can assure you, women are not respected, they are harrassed on a daily basis, in saudi, they cant drive, cant go out without a male relative, have to sit in the back of shops etc, do you call that respecting women?? And i wont even start on how the taliban treat women!
These are cultural rather than Islamic. Different Islamic cultures have different ways of working and you’re imposing YOUR cultural values upon them.
As for Saudi women, I’ve often come across Saudi women saying the’re HAPPY to live in the way they do and that they don’t wish for this to change. But things ARE changing in Saudi, including a campaign to allow women to drive, something supported by more liberal Saudi scholars.
And Christianity doesnt teach this??? Have you been locked in a cupboard???
Eph 6 1 Children, be obedient to your parents in the Lord – that is what uprightness demands.
2 The first commandment that has a promise attached to it is: Honour your father and your mother,
3 and the promise is: so that you may have long life and prosper in the land.
4 And parents, never drive your children to resentment but bring them up with correction and advice inspired by the Lord.
A LOT of Christians of all denominations simply don’t follow this. It’s what the Bible says, but whether it is followed is another matter.
I dont see how this says women and men are equal, however, there is an abundance of text showing how women are less superior than man. Refer to the link above.
I don’t have a Qurán to hand, but I"ll find the verses I’m actually thinking of and post them.
:Let’s flip this over: there’s probably a Muslim message forum where a Muslim poster is saying exactly the same things about Christianity as you are saying about Islam.
what do I say at this point?