MSNBC accuses Trump of operating concentration camps

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Certainly FDR had internment camps for Japanese and German Americans, the latter not as well known. He was an imperfect president (which one was perfect, I wonder?). But the difference is that FDR did many good things to help us out of the economic Depression (such as engaging in war LOL) and to help the common folk, probably thanks to the influence of Eleanor Roosevelt. Trump’s behavior regarding immigrants, on the other hand, is not counterbalanced by so many other, more positive aspects. Nonetheless, I think you make an important point.
 
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i am so worn out from this left wing hysteria and their endless attempts to
make President Trump and his administration appear evil beyond belief.

Obama voted in favor of babies born alive after attempted abortion not to be aided.
somehow that was okay. they are to be left to die.

but President Trump is seen as evil because children are being separated from their parents who have entered the country illegally and are being housed, fed, clothed, educated - not thrown out on the streets to fend for themselves.
 
Hyperbole … both sides of the media are guilty of this. Not saying that we should give a pass to msnbc, but do you express the same outrage when Fox pulls the same crap?

… or when the President, the worst of them all, takes liberty after liberty with the truth?

Are you consistent in you criticism or biased?
 
Theo520 said:
Take this story, one could raise the issue of the children being separated from parents without portraying it as an invention of evil Trump. Maybe the practice should be changed, but it has been policy for a couple decades.
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The question is about enforcement. Is the Trump administration more aggressive in enforcing an unjust law? St Paul had something to say about being right to disobey unjust laws if they contradict Jesus’ teaching.
 
godisgood77 said:
The question is about enforcement. Is the Trump administration more aggressive in enforcing an unjust law
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What’s unjust about America’s immigration law? Not just unwise, or how it could be made better, what is “unjust” about it? If someone overstays their welcome on a visa, they are shown the door. If someone sneaks in, they get pushed out. If someone wants to be admitted as an immigrant/ refugee/asylee/tourist/ student/ whatever, they are supposed to get vetted.
 
7_Sorrows said:
am so worn out from this left wing hysteria and their endless attempts to
make President Trump and his administration appear evil beyond belief.
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It doesn’t take “liberal media” to do this —Trump does it all on his own via Twitter.
 
JulianN said:
It doesn’t take “liberal media” to do this —Trump does it all on his own via Twitter.
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The President just responds to attacks by way of Twitter. Last week, example given, Punchy DeNIro used some really obscene language in regards to the President. So he responded on Twitter, giving his own spin on the allegedly punch drunk thespian’s rant.
 
I think both sides are guilty of vilifying or demonizing their opposition. Some people thought Obama was the Antichrist.
 
Guess who runs Casa Padre? (ETA Former chair of ) La Raza, not the lawyer’s association but the one that had the motto For the race, everything, outside the race, nothing. (https://www.loscerritosnews.net/201...imself-el-presidente-served-on-la-raza-board/ )

Would they run a concentration camp for Trump?

Interestingly, they have been accredited since 2008. http://www.swkey.org/blog/COA_2016/

Several very negative reviews on Glassdoor (ETA on the company which runs Casa Padre, ) some regarding very high pay for upper echelon, but I can’t get there on my phone .

I dunno, this line of attack against Trump may backfire.

ETA: Also, their history section has been wiped out in Wikipedia.
 
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meltzerboy2 said:
Certainly FDR had internment camps for Japanese and German Americans,
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Was it legal for the Americans to put innocent people in concentration camps because of their racial background? If not, then why didn’t the American courts do anything about it? Were all the American judges bought off? Or were they threatened somehow?
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on MSNBC, panelists described the Trump administration’s handling of detained immigrants illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border as operating "concentration camps
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I am sorry to hear that the US now has allegedly renewed the policy of putting people and especially children in concentration camps. I am somewhat skeptical because of what I see with msnbc is a lot of one-sided criticism of Trump.
 
bobperk said:
The New York Times, Washington Post, ABC, NBC, Harvard, Yale, Stanford…just think of all these institutions that used to be so highly regarded and respected…but have now all been unveiled as bastions of left-wing lunacy.
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Do you have any idea how extreme this statement is? I disagree with you but the way you put your view makes it impossible to engage. Throwing vitriol is not the traditional Catholic debate. You site your principles, your observations and your conclusions.
 
They were not concentration camps in the sense of the Nazi extermination camps, nor even Nazi labor camps. They were internment camps, as are the current camps under the Trump administration. Yes, they were illegal, but it was wartime, a world war, and FDR had dictatorial powers. No government official dared oppose him, only his wife.
 
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Theo520 said:
They’ll be traumatized for the rest of their lives :roll_eyes:
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I mean, they are largely escaping a violent life and torture in central america, only to be separated from their parents once at the US-Mexico border. That would probably mess me up a bit…

And most of these are asylum seekers from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala, which is not against the law.
 
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They’ll be traumatized for the rest of their lives :roll_eyes:
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I mean, they are largely escaping a violent life and torture in central america, only to be separated from their parents once at the US-Mexico border. That would probably mess me up a bit…

And most of these are asylum seekers from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala, which is not against the law.
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what exactly are they seeking asylum from?
 
All I know is, the more I divorce myself from the media and from the poison of politics, the happier I am. Oh I vote, but day by day, what does it all matter?
 
Ok, I’ll play. Gang violence and corrupt governments who are doing nothing to stop it and are likely, in fact, complicit.
 
Theo520 said:
Here is a great example of liberal media misrepresenting the facts to try take the moral high ground
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Its not the presence of Detention Centers, its the ripping apart of families.

The comment above is a great example of an unabashed Trump apologist rationalizing the administrations evil policy of separating families…there is no justification or defense for this undeniable atrocity.

Listen to Cardinal Dolan…he has spoken, and to ignore his thoughts on the subject show how the Gospel has been put second to politics.

Sad!
 
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