My methodist ministers will know that I'm going catholic now!

[guanophore]

This is finally it! I’m gonna do it! I’m going to email my methodist ministers NOW and tell them that I’ve joined a Roman Catholic Church! When I get a message back from them I will post it here for you all to see! I can’t wait to hear what they’ll say (I’m both excited and scared)!

…please pray that this doesn’t go all wrong! :manvspc:

xXX zundrah (jennifer) XXx

Zundrah, you need to understand that filling out a form at your local parish does not make you a member of the Catholic Church. You are registered in that parish, but you are considered a catechumen at this time. You will be fully received when you are confirmed at the completetion of your catechumenate, and are able to receive the Eucharist.

I like your thinking Eucharisted!

P.S. They still haven’t replied to me yet!

Maybe they realize that attending Mass and filling out a form does not make you Catholic? Maybe they are hoping you will come to your senses and return?

:tsktsk: No, no, no, I don’t need to ask them because I am obviously going to delete any personal text in the message.
I’m only going to show you their reply to my annoucement that I’m catholic now. Anything else would just be immoral and a privacy violation to them, which I am not going to do! I’m not a lunatic! :whacky:

Not to mention that it is against the forum rules to post other’s private emails.

 

[guanophore]

lol - sorry to confuse you but this is what I should have called the thread; I am protestant becoming catholic and these are the problems I’m having on the way, please help me with them.

Does that make more sense?

Breif summary;

I left my methodist church 1 month before christmas. I didn’t want to join any random denomination because I knew it wouldn’t be the same as my old methodist church… I went to a Roam Catholic Church just over 5 weeks ago and was told to fill in a membership form without even an introduction to the church… So I am having to ask multiple questions about catholicism here on this site becuase my catholic church is too busy to even bother to talk to me. Sorry if I sound mean but I want answers and I was shocked that the ministers at the catholic church wasn’t even bothered when I told them that I was protestant. They didn’t explain anything to me that would prepare me for the different worship in the church.

I’ve had to explain my self to catholics on this site soooo many times now that I’m getting very tired of doing it… They often accuse me of being anti-catholic and just terrrorizing them on this site… I’ve even been questioned about my ICRA classes, as if I haven’t actually been going to them. I’ve never been so interrigated in all my life! Not you LilyM, but some others here.

I hope this helps you darling.

xx zundrah (jennifer) xxx

I think your rapid mood swings, sometimes impulsive responses, and emotionality tend to throw people off. I think the way you re-worded this is much better!

Me too. Especially given some of the other threads, and the inconsistences pointed out by other posters, to the extent that one thread was closed down.

There’s more going on than we know, I think.

Even if we overlook the confusing statements in other threads started by this poster, and take the story at face value, I can’t help wondering if Zundrah realises that she is not a Catholic just by saying she is. RCIA normally takes some months, surely, even a year, before a candidate is received into the Church and can be called a Catholic.

The RCIA process, sincerely undertaken, involves more steadiness, thought and willingness to study than is realised.

Zundrah is young, impressionable, and sheltered. I don’t think she clearly understands that she does not become a Catholic by attending a Mass and filling out a form, but I do think she is trying to learn.

 

[danonwaveland]

I don’t think she clearly understands that she does not become a Catholic by attending a Mass and filling out a form, but I do think she is trying to learn.

And she should be applauded for her efforts. Like all of us, she needs the prayers of her brothers and sisters in Christ. So, let’s keep her in our prayers and may God’s Holy Spirit guide her on her life-long journey.

God bless,
Dan

 

[redrosetea]

That was a nice reply back…They posted to you in Christian charity…I am not so sure it was a charitable thing to post their reply…

 

[steve638]

Having grown up in the RCC I can honestly say I pray for you and you decision to follow whatever denomination you feel lead to be in. As a Christian first, baptist second, I hope you take time daily to descern what you do in your daily walk through what you learn in the bible and with assistance of your parish. It seems your intent is show off what your minister at the methodist church has to say about you leaving? Please correctly me because I hope that I am wrong in what your original thread intent is.

[SIGN]" 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other." Galations 5:22-26[/SIGN]

More importantly if you feel that you are leaving that Methodist Church becuase they are not the correct or can not have salvation shouldn’t you share with them why you are leaving and why they should consider going to the RCC?

 

[rinnie]

Having grown up in the RCC I can honestly say I pray for you and you decision to follow whatever denomination you feel lead to be in. As a Christian first, baptist second, I hope you take time daily to descern what you do in your daily walk through what you learn in the bible and with assistance of your parish. It seems your intent is show off what your minister at the methodist church has to say about you leaving? Please correctly me because I hope that I am wrong in what your original thread intent is.

[SIGN]" 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other." Galations 5:22-26[/SIGN]

More importantly if you feel that you are leaving that Methodist Church becuase they are not the correct or can not have salvation shouldn’t you share with them why you are leaving and why they should consider going to the RCC?

Excuse me, but would you like anyone to come to your chuch and share with you why they want to try another church. I would think not. I would think they would say do whatever turns you on. If you were of the RCC as you claim you of all people should realize why she wants to join the Rcc and what answers she is finding there. As far as her intent she already said she was sorry for saying what she did. We all make bad judgements or say things at time we do not mean, or once we said them would like to take back. I am glad you feel that you have found contentment in your church. And far be it for me to anyone to judge your decision. But for growing up in the RCC I for one cannot understand how you could say a Christian first Baptism second, either your parents did not practice the faith because if they did it would be Baptism first Christian follows. . Because being baptised is what makes us Christians. TO be a Christian is to be baptised in the faith. How you become Christian before Baptism is beyond me.

 

[paperwight]

Zundrah is young, impressionable, and sheltered. I don’t think she clearly understands that she does not become a Catholic by attending a Mass and filling out a form, but I do think she is trying to learn.

Quote: from ‘Confused’ thread on Non-Catholic Religions’ today
Originally Posted by Zundrah

Whae I first came onto this site I have to admit that they were scaring me away from the church but they didn’t get very far! I have just finished RCIA Classes! Every one cheer! I am now a member of my roman catholic church!

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Quote in reply to this by me:
Zundrah, I think you are awfully confused. How can you possibly have finished RCIA classes? The course is about a year long. And how can you be a member? Have you been confirmed?

Whatever you have been attending, I don’t believe it was RCIA.

Who has been confusing you?

 

[Zundrah]

Quote: from ‘Confused’ thread on Non-Catholic Religions’ today
Originally Posted by Zundrah

Whae I first came onto this site I have to admit that they were scaring me away from the church but they didn’t get very far! I have just finished RCIA Classes! Every one cheer! I am now a member of my roman catholic church!

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Quote in reply to this by me:
Zundrah, I think you are awfully confused. How can you possibly have finished RCIA classes? The course is about a year long. And how can you be a member? Have you been confirmed?

Whatever you have been attending, I don’t believe it was RCIA.

Who has been confusing you?

This is getting complicated but I just can’t understand how you are confused though?

 

[qui_est_ce]

You got me love. Trust me Zen, this is not the best time of your life. Its hard. You are supposed to be a adult now, have a good job, make money and you are still a kid. My son left home at 20. He moved in with a friend, got a bad girlfriend and came home almost 2 years later at 22 broken. He had me, my Mom. (a Saint) my husband, my daughter, my Mother in law all ready to Love humpty dumpty and put him back together again. The girl got him into credit card debt, and he is still a work in progress. He like you really likes Father. He is back to church (although he does skip now and then But like you he is on the right page now. It takes time. Trust me. You are in the right place. But don’t expect it overnight its gonna take time. And I am very very proud of you. You and my Son could have turned to drugs by you two turned to God. Its gonna be a struggle but you guys will make it.

Rinnie-

You mean there’s hope?? My son is 21. It looks like he’s coming around again. But he’s fallen back twice now. He does not go to church ever. I don’t think he even considers himself Catholic, after 12 years of Catholic school!!

My daughter, 18, has decided she is Catholic, but she hardly every goes to church! I guess it’s good she identifies with the Catholic Church, but she should know better after 12 years of Catholic school.

Unfortunately she went to a school run by the Sisters of Loretto. They wanted the priest to substiture an exerpt from one of Oprah Winfrey’s books for the Gospel reading!

 

[paperwight]

This is getting complicated but I just can’t understand how you are confused though?

Well, you started the classes which you said were RCIA at the beginning of July at the earliest - so about 5 weeks max?

The RCIA course is quite a big thing. During the months, there are two important occasions in it, usually at your Cathedral, and it has the climax at Easter, when the candidates are confirmed, are formally received into the church, and receive Holy Communion for the first time. Some are also baptised at the same time, if they hadn’t been baptised in a Christian church already.

In our Archdiocese, it starts in September and finishes at Easter, as I said. I suppose it could start at any time, but I really don’t believe it would be all done and dusted within 5 weeks.

Your diocese website has a link with the English Bishops’ RCIA resource, so presumably they are not too far out of line from the usual practice.

You don’t say you were confirmed, I notice, which you’d have to be to be received, so I suspect you haven’t completed the RCIA course, as you believe. To be honest, I got the impression you didn’t know what I meant by Confirmation.

I wonder, could you have misunderstood what the priest said? Did he mean to say that the classes had finished for the summer, not that you had completed the course, do you think?

 

[Zundrah]

Well, you started the classes which you said were RCIA at the beginning of July at the earliest - so about 5 weeks max?

The RCIA course is quite a big thing. During the months, there are two important occasions in it, usually at your Cathedral, and it has the climax at Easter, when the candidates are confirmed, are formally received into the church, and receive Holy Communion for the first time. Some are also baptised at the same time, if they hadn’t been baptised in a Christian church already.

In our Archdiocese, it starts in September and finishes at Easter, as I said. I suppose it could start at any time, but I really don’t believe it would be all done and dusted within 5 weeks.

Your diocese website has a link with the English Bishops’ RCIA resource, so presumably they are not too far out of line from the usual practice.

You don’t say you were confirmed, I notice, which you’d have to be to be received, so I suspect you haven’t completed the RCIA course, as you believe. To be honest, I got the impression you didn’t know what I meant by Confirmation.

I wonder, could you have misunderstood what the priest said? Did he mean to say that the classes had finished for the summer, not that you had completed the course, do you think?

Listen!!! The rcia has stopped but it will come back at september time. It has two different seperate courses or something like that? It has a break in it but it will restart in september.

 

[paperwight]

Listen!!! The rcia has stopped but it will come back at september time. It has two different seperate courses or something like that? It has a break in it but it will restart in september.

That’s more like it.

That wasn’t what you said first time round, though. You said you had finished RCIA and were now a member of the Catholic church.

We all want you to be a Catholic! I prayed for you especially all through Mass on Wednesday.

But be careful what you write and say - always double-check everything, and read back what you have written on a messageboard like this to judge what impression it gives before you press that send button. Read back more than once, in fact.

 

[LisaA]

I am also a convert from the Methodist church and shared your concerns. Interestingly enough the minister said he totally understood what the Catholic Church offered that the Methodist church did not. He said were he younger and not supporting a family he might well convert to Catholicism. He too was disappointed with the watered down doctrines and the support for abortion.

At any rate I went through RCIA which I LOVED! I am so positive that you will have a wonderful experience and the bonds you develop with the RCIA team and your “classmates” will be deep and lasting.

God bless!
Lisa A

 

[guanophore]

Well, she’s not a kid,exactly, is she? Twenty-one is not a kid. I’d expect more willingness to find things out independently from the ten-year olds I tutor. Does she not have access to the internet? A book-shop? Why does she need to be personally taught?

She has had a somewhat sheltered and restricted life, and is inexperienced in such matters. She also very much needs and wants connection, which is often difficult to find when visiting a Catholic parish. Catholics are not always warm and welcoming to strangers at Mass.

If someone is wondering about the Catholic church, surely they would do some research, not expect to be individually spoonfed?

Where is the wheatina!? I am not sure research is a forte. I think that depends upon ones upbringing and academic experiences. Some people find it easier to learn from others, than from reading.

It’s precisely because she has no idea what the Mass is about, as you say, and has made no effort to find out, apart from enrolling in RCIA, that I don’t see how she can be sure she wants to be a Catholic.

I’m aware this sounds harsh, and I’m sorry. Of course I want converts. But you see, when someone can’t even see that conversion is necessary to change from Methodism to Catholicism via the Mormons (see another thread started by the OP on the Non-Christian Religion board) , I feel it’s not quite time to hang out the bunting.

I think it has been a difficult journey just to get to this point. For a person who has little or no religious experience, the Mass is a complete mystery. When someone with little to no experience first tries Methodist, then one may form expecations about what Christians do. One has to admit that the Catholic Liturgy is quite a bit different than what Methodists do.

 

[qui_est_ce]

That’s more like it.

That wasn’t what you said first time round, though. You said you had finished RCIA and were now a member of the Catholic church.

We all want you to be a Catholic! I prayed for you especially all through Mass on Wednesday.

But be careful what you write and say - always double-check everything, and read back what you have written on a messageboard like this to judge what impression it gives before you press that send button. Read back more than once, in fact.

I agree. Some of Jennifer’s posts are a bit confrontational and confusing. I don’t think it’s nice to egg on people and post their responses.

I applaud Jennifer’s minster’s charitable response.

With all due respect, Jennifer, you do come across as shallow and flippant in some of your posts. Hit the Preview Post button and read your posts as if they were directed at you. What do you think?

 

[Zundrah]

I agree. Some of Jennifer’s posts are a bit confrontational and confusing. I don’t think it’s nice to egg on people and post their responses.

I applaud Jennifer’s minster’s charitable response.

With all due respect, Jennifer, you do come across as shallow and flippant in some of your posts. Hit the Preview Post button and read your posts as if they were directed at you. What do you think?

lol, I am just very emotional and my christianity matters so much to me, so if I hear that catholics have ways of connecting with God that my methodist church didn’t know of then obviously I’m going to want to find out more about it. I get bad responses because personnaly I think it’s just because I am protestant. If I wasn’t then many people wouldn’t be offended by my direct questions. It’s a shame but look how far i’ve got lately? Since june I have joined a roman catholic chruch and taken RCIA! I think that’s great!

 

[guanophore]

lol, I am just very emotional and my christianity matters so much to me, so if I hear that catholics have ways of connecting with God that my methodist church didn’t know of then obviously I’m going to want to find out more about it. I get bad responses because personnaly I think it’s just because I am protestant. If I wasn’t then many people wouldn’t be offended by my direct questions. It’s a shame but look how far i’ve got lately? Since june I have joined a roman catholic chruch and taken RCIA! I think that’s great!

No, Zundrah. You get bad responses because you deliberately post provacatively, and make some impulsive and silly statements. It has nothing to do with being Protestant. In fact, in your heart, you are much more Catholic than Protestant. It is your behavior, not your beliefs that get you in hot water here.

guanophore,
deliverer of much hot water

 

[paperwight]

lol, I am just very emotional and my christianity matters so much to me, so if I hear that catholics have ways of connecting with God that my methodist church didn’t know of then obviously I’m going to want to find out more about it. I get bad responses because personnaly I think it’s just because I am protestant. If I wasn’t then many people wouldn’t be offended by my direct questions. It’s a shame but look how far i’ve got lately? Since june I have joined a roman catholic chruch and taken RCIA! I think that’s great!

No, it really isn’t because you are protestant. You have attempted to receive Holy Communion in a Catholic church, even though you were told you couldn’t, you have stirred up anti-Mormon threads and said something pretty awful about protestants, including that they teach immorality and that the Methodists are a stupid denomination - well, I don’t need to go on.

We still love you, Jennifer! And we want you to be a Catholic!

But you are still not reading what you post before you send it to check if it’s true. Two points, just from this most recent post of yours.

First, I’m sorry, but you haven’t taken RCIA - you’ve taken a short summer course in RCIA, but it wasn’t the full course.
Second, I’m really sorry, but you are not a member of the Catholic Church just yet, only a catechumen (a learner).

 

[Zundrah]

No, it really isn’t because you are protestant. You have attempted to receive Holy Communion in a Catholic church, even though you were told you couldn’t, you have stirred up anti-Mormon threads and said something pretty awful about protestants, including that they teach immorality and that the Methodists are a stupid denomination - well, I don’t need to go on.

We still love you, Jennifer! And we want you to be a Catholic!

But you are still not reading what you post before you send it to check if it’s true. Two points, just from this most recent post of yours.

First, I’m sorry, but you haven’t taken RCIA - you’ve taken a short summer course in RCIA, but it wasn’t the full course.
Second, I’m really sorry, but you are not a member of the Catholic Church just yet, only a catechumen (a learner).

Hot water! It’s burning like acid!

So… I am not catholic… I have not completed RCIA. But boo-hoo, I don’t care about all the negatives… (well actually I do:snowing. I am a christian that left one church and joined another 8 months later, the point is that I didn’t care that it was a catholic church. It was a church and that is all I wanted.

 

[Zundrah]

No, Zundrah. You get bad responses because you deliberately post provacatively, and make some impulsive and silly statements. It has nothing to do with being Protestant. In fact, in your heart, you are much more Catholic than Protestant. It is your behavior, not your beliefs that get you in hot water here.

guanophore,
deliverer of much hot water

If the pot over boils then the vitamins in the food will all die and the veg will lack nutrition…
Some times your pot boils to hot and for too long.