My mom made me vote for Biden on my absentee ballot. What do I do?

[toddy]

If you honor parents then saying harmony upon their will!
Only one exception: “Dont let your left hand knows what your right hand does” Jesus said.
So,
My parents know Biden. [honor parents, obey the Father]
You vote for anyone as you like secretly. [obey Savior Jesus]

No words to explain and against God’s commandments about legal age; etc.

 

[Limoncello4021]

Sorry, I realize there’s a language issue here but this is impossible to decipher.

 

[scousekiwi]

I mean, ideally.

Really? On what basis do you think that that would be a good idea? Since you call yourself Rhodesian, I am not sure what your nationality is or in what legal and constitutional system you operate. In terms of the history of electoral reform in the United Kingdom, this would mean reversing the great advances made during the 19th century and early 20th century which eventually gave one vote to every adult citizen (including Irish and Commonwealth citizens, as you will be aware, since you are presumably a former Commonwealth citizen). This seems to me, and to the great majority of people, to be the only system that is fair. If you are serious about restricting voting to property-owning males over 21, you would be disenfranchising women, the poor, and people under the age of 21 who are nonetheless liable to pay taxes, serve in the armed forces, serve on a jury, etc. Indirectly, this would disproportionately disenfranchise people from some ethnic minorities. Astonishingly, three people have liked your comment.

Uh hello? Based Department?

Sorry, but I have absolutely no idea what you mean. These seem to be random words rather than comprehensible sentences.

I doubt that will happen in the United States.

I doubt it will happen anywhere in the western world, but I find it troubling that somebody endorses that idea and three more people liked his comment. Is this some eccentric subset of Catholics who are anti-democratic?

Sorry, I realize there’s a language issue here but this is impossible to decipher.

It’s not clear to whom you are addressing this comment, but if you are addressing it to @Anonkun, whose “Based Department?” comment was indeed impossible to decipher, I do apologise.

 

[Limoncello4021]

I was addressing it to the latest post from Toddy.

 

[TheLittleLady]

There are laws against coercing someone’s vote.

 

[TheLittleLady]

There are laws against this. If you signed and submitted your ballot, it is cast.

 

[JanR]

It is your right to vote for whomever you wish. Nobody, not even your mom, has any right dictating who you vote for. Please remember that our system is set up so that people’s ballots (who they vote for) remains secret. Your mistake was letting your mom see your ballot, and telling her who you planned to vote for. It’s none of her business!

Nobody should be pressured into voting any way other than how their conscience dictates. Your mom should have known this, and respected it.

 

[DarkLight]

The reason we don’t go with property ownership is it has historically been used to keep people in poverty. If the property owners are the only ones who can vote, they have an incentive to support laws and policies that make it more difficult for others to get into that class.

 

[Sarcelle]

No they don’t.

Above 18, one is an adult, not a minor.

 

[Freddy]

LumineDiei:

Well, that was certainly skirting the question! Can you not answer it outright? Or would that confirm that you don’t think women should be allowed to vote? Or own property??

Sure.

Right now, I’m fine with women owning property and voting.

I guess that’s an encouragement for women to vote. Do it now while you still can…

 

[Freddy]

Particularly since so many people can get their political views locked into whatever their college buddies are dictating.

Why do I get this impression that you are talking about males?

 

[blackforest]

I deleted my answer because it still doesn’t make sense. I understand that I have a legal right to vote. Do you believe that non-property holders, women, and people ages 18-20 should have the right to vote?

Where women are concerned, I’d think it would be extremely foolish for any Catholic to favor disenfranchising us. I present . . . Exhibit A:

Not the Bee | What a time to be alive

 

[scousekiwi]

Just voicing admiration my friend .

I still don’t understand. “Based Department?” doesn’t make any sense to me.

I do think there should be some limits on the current voting rights, and property ownership seems to be a logical prerequisite for having a valid vote imo.

I don’t know where you are from, and unless you are from the UK or New Zealand I guess it doesn’t really make any difference to me whether you believe in “limiting” voting rights. I can’t say that I see any justification for limiting those rights. In fact, I think the UK should expand voting rights somewhat along similar lines to New Zealand, where permanent residents are also allowed to vote (although British, Irish, and most Commonwealth citizens cannot). I also think that prisoners should be allowed to vote, something New Zealand has made more progress on than the UK. As for having a property qualification, I don’t see the justification for it. It seems rather arbitrary. In general, it means restricting voting to the rich, although there may also be people who earn quite a lot of money but don’t spend it acquiring property. A lot of people who do very important jobs would be disenfranchised: nurses, paramedics, junior doctors, other ranks and junior officers in the armed forces, postal workers, many people working in industry, agriculture, and retail, etc.

At the very least, you have to admit that we’d be a lot better off if the voting age were raised to 25 (or better yet, 30).

I certainly won’t admit it. I’d be happy to reduce the voting age to 16 as it already has been in Scotland.

Right now, I’m fine with women owning property and voting. But I’m also not opposed to people arguing against these ideas, so long as they do so in a reasonable manner.

Really? I guess people can argue for whatever they like, but I cannot imagine what reasonable human being could argue against women owning property and voting.

I don’t see why there is a fundamental right to change one’s social class.

There is a fundamental right to enjoy equality of opportunity and to enjoy the benefits of those opportunities. I am not sure where you are from, but in the United States, which this thread mostly concerns, this is very much part of the national culture.

 

[Freddy]

Freddy:

Why do I get this impression that you are talking about males?

Men and women both really. It’s very easy for people who were mostly nonpolitical growing up to get swept up in radical politics through college. I have a few cousins who are now hard avowed socialists thanks to art school, for example.

So no votes for socialists until they reach thirty?

 

[Freddy]

We’re digging around a little to see if that’s the case. Stay tuned!

 

[Pattylt]

At the very least, you have to admit that we’d be a lot better off if the voting age were raised to 25 (or better yet, 30).

As someone who couldn’t vote until she was 21 while watching her classmates die in a war they couldn’t vote on and fought very hard to lower that age to 18, I don’t agree with you. Unless you want to also restrict fighting in wars to those 25 or 30 as well?

 

[Tis_Bearself]

I pray for both candidates every day and have no animosity towards either one of them.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

Yeah, well, lest anyone think I’m saintly, there are other politicians I absolutely can’t stand. They just don’t happen to be running for President this year.

 

[toddy]

Sorry, I realize there’s a language issue here but this is impossible to decipher.

In what words of God for what you say different from God’s Commandments?

Is men’s words bigger than God’s Words in rank?

 

[scousekiwi]

It’s very easy for people who were mostly nonpolitical growing up to get swept up in radical politics through college. I have a few cousins who are now hard avowed socialists thanks to art school, for example.

Particularly since so many people can get their political views locked into whatever their college buddies are dictating.

I get the impression that your main concern is that younger people are more likely to vote for more left-wing parties. (Equally, I have known people who became very right-wing after attending university at Oxford and Cambridge, where many leading Conservatives are educated.)

The fact is that people’s political opinions are shaped by different influences throughout their lives. It is completely arbitrary to suggest that people shouldn’t be allowed to vote because their opinions may have been influenced by being in higher education. You could equally say that people shouldn’t be allowed to vote if they do a particular job, attend a particular place of worship, travel to a particular country, or listen to a particular type of music.

Perhaps when I returned to the UK from New Zealand I ought to have been banned from voting in case my political opinions had been influenced by my spending so many years in New Zealand and becoming a New Zealand citizen. Or perhaps I ought to have been banned from voting in the UK when I was still a Catholic. Oh, wait, Catholics were banned from voting in the UK…

but having several family and friends in China, I am beginning to see how a naive unlimited amount of freedom promulgated by Western nations is slowly working to their detriment.

The United States certainly has problems at the moment. I am not sure that I would say that they are caused by people having “unlimited” freedom. Indeed, I don’t even think that Americans do have “unlimited” freedom, although you certainly have a unique cultural emphasis on freedom. I think one thing which is rather a mixed blessing for the United States is having a Constitution which codified principles of government that enjoyed popularity around the end of the 18th century. It may simply be bias because it’s where I was born, but I think the British system of government, based on precedent and convention, mostly serves us very well. However, irrespective of the differences between the US and UK systems of government, I’d rather live in either country (or in New Zealand, Australia, Canada, or any EU country or similar) than in China, Russia, an Islamic country, or one of the many corrupt and despotic regimes in Africa.