Non- Catholic Christians: can you lose your salvation?

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You didn’t address the compulsion part, which is what is the doctrine behind OSAS.
 
Julius_Caesar said:
You didn’t address the compulsion part, which is what is the doctrine behind OSAS.
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So you don’t believe living a holy life comes from a desire to return Love to God who Loves us?

What is our reason then?
 
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You have yet to address irresistable grace.
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I haven’t talked about irresistible grace. I’m talking about the motivation for living a holy life. Whether it is irresistible or not doesn’t matter. Whether somebody loves God because of irresistable or prevenient grace is not what we are talking about. We are talking about how someone who believes OSAS wants to live a holy life.

The answer is because they love God.
 
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You have yet to address irresistable grace.
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BTW-the majority of who believe in OSAS don’t believe in irresistible grace, at least as far as conversion goes. They have a very synergetic view of being “born again”.
 
lanman87 said:
BTW-the majority of who believe in OSAS don’t believe in irresistible grace, at least as far as conversion goes. They have a very synergetic view of being “born again”.
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But a monergistic view of perseverance, which basically amounts to God keeping those in salvation there.
 
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Oh but it does. If one loves out of compulsion, is it really love?
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Do you have to be compelled to love your mother, your father, your wife? No, it is natural. We love our parents because we experience their love for us (provided they were loving parents). When we experience God’s love for us we don’t have to be forced to love Him. It is the most natural thing in the world.

I grew up in the OSAS teaching Southern Baptist. They didn’t teach that God forces us to love Him.
 
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Julius_Caesar:
But a monergistic view of perseverance, which basically amounts to God keeping those in salvation there.
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I’m sorry you don’t like the simple answer of “Love”.
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You should be sorry you avoid the crux of the matter. It’s telling.
 
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So I take it you don’t believe in total depravity.
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It doesn’t matter what I believe about TULIP and I’m not even sure if I know.

I’m simply saying that the answer is love. Because God loves us and we love Him. That is the motivation to live a holy life. It should be everyone’s motivation.
 
And if you are in a place you cannot possibly get out of, aren’t you still compelled to stay?
 
Yet you’re not talking to the questioner. You’re having a convo with me.
 
Well, I’m not trying to defend OSAS. I’m just gave an explanation as to why those that believe OSAS seek to live a holy life. Apparently you had a problem with my answer.
 
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And monergism teaches that a person who is saved has his nature acted on by God so that he can act accordingly. There is no endgame then, since that’s the result.
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But that doesn’t exclude the freedom of the will to reject grace.
Article XII: Of Repentance.
1] Of Repentance they teach that for those who have fallen after Baptism there is remission of sins whenever they are converted 2] and that the Church ought to impart absolution to those thus returning to repentance. Now, repentance consists properly of these 3] two parts: One is contrition, that is, 4] terrors smiting the conscience through the knowledge of sin; the other is faith, which is born of 5] the Gospel, or of absolution, and believes that for Christ’s sake, sins are forgiven, comforts 6] the conscience, and delivers it from terrors. Then good works are bound to follow, which are the fruits of repentance.
7] They condemn the Anabaptists, who deny that those once justified can lose the Holy Ghost. Also those who contend that some may attain to such 8] perfection in this life that they cannot sin.
9] The Novatians also are condemned, who would not absolve such as had fallen after Baptism, though they returned to repentance.
10] They also are rejected who do not teach that remission of sins comes through faith but command us to merit grace through satisfactions of our own.
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