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kelvinf
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If you don’t have a gun that is capable of killing 100 people within a short period of time, how then can you kill 100 persons without using a bomb? With gasoline?
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gilliam
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Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting update: 3 guns found next to Adam Lanza’s body, 3 elsewhere
Adam Lanza was found dead next to three guns – the semiautomatic .223-caliber rifle made by Bushmaster and two handguns made by Glock and Sig Sauer. A fourth weapon, a shotgun, was found in Lanza’s car, according to Vance. Additional weapons were found in his house, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation said.
wptv.com/dpp/news/national/sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooting-update-3-guns-found-next-to-adam-lanzas-body-3-elsewhere
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oldcatholicguy
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Yes, because as you pointed out (stabbing in China) guns aren’t necessary for a person to attack children at school (there have been at least 7 mass stabbings in China since 2010).
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_Abyssinia
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usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/18/mass-killings-common/1778303
A third of mass killings didn’t involve guns at all. In 15 incidents, the victims died in a fire. In 20 others, the killer used a knife or a blunt object. When guns were involved, killers were far more likely to use handguns than any other type of weapon
FBI data from 2006 to 2010 shows mass killings account for less than 1% of gun crime
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kelvinf
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That’s too easy to say. How often does that materialise?
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Don_Jackson
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I’m sure the NRA thinks its a good idea. But, its just a tad (I’m being sarcastic) disengenuous.
And, its ironic that gun totters, by and large, are politically conservative, hence against increased taxaton for governmental programs that only benefit some and not all citizens.
And, they want an armed policeman in every school.
With an armed policeman in every school, they claim students are being protected, but what ir really means (through the use of smoke and mirrors) that gun owners rights are protected…and the expense of those who don’t own guns who will have to finance the cost of a policeman in every school!
Granted, we have enough laws on the books that should be enforced. But, thats not the point of this whole charade the NRA is putting up after the death of nearly 30 beautiful children and adults. An armed policeman in every school is little more than a load of doo-doo we are being sold that really pushes home the “we don’t fewer guns on the streets, we need more” mantra the gun guys have been trying to feed us.
Their latest argument has no more credence than their old arguments that go something like, if there weren’t guns, mass killers would use another weapons…In the last 20 years, how many multiple homocides were committed by madmen with swords, knives, bows and arrows, etc. compared to those using firearms? Duh!
If the NRA cannot or will not provide real solutions, then they may well be a big part of a very real problem, and they need to get on board or cease to exist.
Tonight my parish is having an overnight vigil before the blessed sacrament to pray for the victims and to the ceasation of gun violence. Much of my prayer is going to be to ask that the NRA become responsbile, or disbanded!
And, its ironic that gun totters, by and large, are politically conservative, hence against increased taxaton for governmental programs that only benefit some and not all citizens.
And, they want an armed policeman in every school.
With an armed policeman in every school, they claim students are being protected, but what ir really means (through the use of smoke and mirrors) that gun owners rights are protected…and the expense of those who don’t own guns who will have to finance the cost of a policeman in every school!
Granted, we have enough laws on the books that should be enforced. But, thats not the point of this whole charade the NRA is putting up after the death of nearly 30 beautiful children and adults. An armed policeman in every school is little more than a load of doo-doo we are being sold that really pushes home the “we don’t fewer guns on the streets, we need more” mantra the gun guys have been trying to feed us.
Their latest argument has no more credence than their old arguments that go something like, if there weren’t guns, mass killers would use another weapons…In the last 20 years, how many multiple homocides were committed by madmen with swords, knives, bows and arrows, etc. compared to those using firearms? Duh!
If the NRA cannot or will not provide real solutions, then they may well be a big part of a very real problem, and they need to get on board or cease to exist.
Tonight my parish is having an overnight vigil before the blessed sacrament to pray for the victims and to the ceasation of gun violence. Much of my prayer is going to be to ask that the NRA become responsbile, or disbanded!
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seekerz
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That’s what you got from reading that study? What I got is that the ban did not last long enough for it’s impact on gun crime to be assessed and there were confounding factors, such as the manufacture of new similar weapons which did not fall under the ban, that make predicting long term effectiveness of the ban questionable. In addition, the effect on a ban crime as a whole is not the same as the effect on mass shootings.
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HansTrappist
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Fine, but it looks like Obama is out of a job them. Obama’s problem is that he still thinks that he is running a campaign. Campaign is over. Time for practical solutions. Mr. LaPierre just upended the President. Oops!
meltzerboy
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What is this, the Wild West? There are law enforcement officers, not everywhere at every moment I know, but that’s their job, spartan_cop. I’ve lived in NYC a long time and never needed to defend myself against a criminal.
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_Abyssinia
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10 years is a long time for a law to be enacted
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spartan_cop
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100 people? What kind of gun can do that other than probably a gat gun? Which by the way are banned. I doubt you’ve ever used a gun let alone seen one. It is very difficult to shoot a moving target. You would have to be a marks expert to be able to take out 100 people. Most AR can only hose 28 rounds.
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kelvinf
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Saving human lives (1%) is worthy or isn’t it?
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EmperorNapoleon
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Mr. LaPierre didn’t present a practical solution and it will never come to pass.
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seekerz
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I’m sure the President is suitably impressed by LaPierre’s infomercial.
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HansTrappist
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So the* police* were confused about the difference between a rifle and a shotgun? Hmmm. I’ll have to dig a little deeper. Not adding up.
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HansTrappist
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LaPierre had a couple of days to learn from the master.I’m sure the President is suitably impressed by LaPierre’s infomercial.
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gilliam
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The police know what a shotgun is. The news reporters who report the story, not so much.
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ProVobis
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Given a gun everyone becomes a cop. Or vigilante.
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seekerz
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That’s true, but none that I’m aware of in developed countries with modern school safety systems.
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kelvinf
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Just an example man.
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