Obama and Romney hit the final stretch

[Jeanne_S]

Romney/Ryan were here in Denver@Red Rocks Ampitheatre.Seats 10,000,it was standing room only event!Go Colorado:

 

[rlg94086]

Too bad you did not create a category for those, like me, who do not plan on voting.

Mark Twain: “If voting made any difference, they’d have made it illegal.”

How is your non-vote any different than the uninformed and apathetic? I don’t see anything about not voting.

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

Romney/Ryan were here in Denver@Red Rocks Ampitheatre.Seats 10,000,it was standing room only event!Go Colorado:

10,000. Oh, wow! Big deal. You should have seen the crowds at a Benny Hinn Rally here.

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

How is your non-vote any different than the uninformed and apathetic? I don’t see anything about not voting.

Well, I do. I personally have NO USE for either Romney or Obama, but will have to live with whomever wins. Am I to vote any way?

 

[Jeanne_S]

10,000. Oh, wow! Big deal. You should have seen the crowds at a Benny Hinn Rally here.

It is a big deal.Just one of many rallies in Colo.Certainly as many ,ir not more than Obama was able to draw in for the DemConvention.

 

[Joe_5859]

I found an interesting website. ElectionProjection.com aggregates many of the polls and projects electoral votes accordingly. Interestingly, the website speculates that everything hinges on whether the voter turnout is more like 2008 or 2004. If the same people come to the polls that came in 2008, Obama will win. If the same people come to the polls that came in 2004, Romney will win. If it is a mix between the two, then Romney will win.

I have no idea if the guy’s math checks out, but I thought it was an interesting observation nonetheless. If the polls are assuming the same type of turnout as 2008, I can see how they’d easily be overestimating Obama’s performance. I don’t get the same sense of excitement from many quarters as I did 4 years ago.

 

[Jeanne_S]

I found an interesting website. ElectionProjection.com aggregates many of the polls and projects electoral votes accordingly. Interestingly, the website speculates that everything hinges on whether the voter turnout is more like 2008 or 2004. If the same people come to the polls that came in 2008, Obama will win. If the same people come to the polls that came in 2004, Romney will win. If it is a mix between the two, then Romney will win.

I have no idea if the guy’s math checks out, but I thought it was an interesting observation nonetheless. If the polls are assuming the same type of turnout as 2008, I can see how they’d easily be overestimating Obama’s performance. I don’t get the same sense of excitement from many quarters as I did 4 years ago.

Even if the turnout is the same as 08’,many of those votes that went to Obama,namely independents,will now go to Romney.

 

[qui_est_ce]

It is a big deal.Just one of many rallies in Colo.Certainly as many ,ir not more than Obama was able to draw in for the DemConvention.

:crying::crying:

:bighanky::imsorry:

 

[qui_est_ce]

How is your non-vote any different than the uninformed and apathetic? I don’t see anything about not voting.

NOBODY is as good as my son is. I have no use for anyone else. They just don’t meet my perfect son’s standards.

 

[maryjk]

I found an interesting website. ElectionProjection.com aggregates many of the polls and projects electoral votes accordingly. Interestingly, the website speculates that everything hinges on whether the voter turnout is more like 2008 or 2004. If the same people come to the polls that came in 2008, Obama will win. If the same people come to the polls that came in 2004, Romney will win. If it is a mix between the two, then Romney will win.

I have no idea if the guy’s math checks out, but I thought it was an interesting observation nonetheless. If the polls are assuming the same type of turnout as 2008, I can see how they’d easily be overestimating Obama’s performance. I don’t get the same sense of excitement from many quarters as I did 4 years ago.

I seem to remember many Obama fans passing out or close to it because they were so overwhelmed. It seemed like he was always trying to get “some water” so someone that seemed to need it, in the crowd. I haven’t heard that AT ALL this time.

It also seems like his crowds are smaller.

I know a couple of families that had Obama yard signs last time. None of them have the signs this time.

So, I hope, they aren’t as energized as they were 4 years ago.

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

NOBODY is as good as my son is. I have no use for anyone else. They just don’t meet my perfect son’s standards.

Oh, you Kid!

 

[SamH]

If you’re President Obama, you know you pushed the sarcasm envelope at Monday night’s debate when even Rachel Maddow describes the way you spoke to Mitt Romney as being in “very, very overtly patronizing terms.”

Maddow probably meant it as a compliment, but there have been plenty of other observers who were critical of the president’s use of Seinfeldian set-ups and snarky punch lines to score points about military spending and the state of U.S.-Russia relations.

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When Romney accused the president of cutting back on military spending by noting the U.S. Navy had fewer ships today than in World War I, Obama shot back, “Well, governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military’s changed.”

He then added, “We also have things called aircraft carriers that planes land on and submarines that go under water.”

news.yahoo.com/obamas-rhetoric-shifts-hope-snark-100033872–abc-news-politics.html

Actually Romney said since 1917 - not WW1. The US Army and the Marines have many more bayonets commissioned today than they did January 1st 1917.

The US Navy has had aircraft carriers for over 90 years and submarines for over 100 years - does Obama actually think these are new weapons?

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

I seem to remember many Obama fans passing out or close to it because they were so overwhelmed. It seemed like he was always trying to get “some water” so someone that seemed to need it, in the crowd. I haven’t heard that AT ALL this time.

Temperatures are cooler, maybe?

I know a couple of families that had Obama yard signs last time. None of them have the signs this time.

I might put up a R/R sign and a O/B sign on my lawn to befuddle passers-by.

 

[meltzerboy]

DIRECT FROM CAESAR’S PALACE

A Las Vegas “odds maker” gives his reasons for big win by Romney in November. Interesting analysis.

Most political predictions are made by biased pollsters, pundits, or prognosticators who are either rooting for Republicans or Democrats. I am neither. I am a former Libertarian Vice Presidential nominee, and a well-known Vegas odds maker with one of the most accurate records of predicting political races.

But as an odds maker with a pretty remarkable track record of picking political races, I play no favorites. I simply use common sense to call them as I see them. Back in late December I released my New Year’s Predictions. I predicted back then- before a single GOP primary had been held, with Romney trailing for months to almost every GOP competitor from Rick Perry to Herman Cain to Newt- that Romney would easily rout his competition to win the GOP nomination by a landslide. I also predicted that the Presidential race between Obama and Romney would be very close until election day. But that on election day Romney would win by a landslide similar to Reagan-Carter in 1980.

Understanding history, today I am even more convinced of a resounding Romney victory. 32 years ago at this moment in time, Reagan was losing by 9 points to Carter. Romney is right now running even in polls. So why do most pollsters give Obama the edge?

First, most pollsters are missing one ingredient- common sense. Here is my gut instinct. Not one American who voted for McCain 4 years ago will switch to Obama. Not one in all the land. But many millions of people who voted for an unknown Obama 4 years ago are angry, disillusioned, turned off, or scared about the future. Voters know Obama now- and that is a bad harbinger.

Now to an analysis of the voting blocks that matter in U.S. politics:

**Black voters. Obama has nowhere to go but down among this group. His endorsement of gay marriage has alienated many black church-going Christian. He may get 88% of their vote instead of the 96% he got in 2008. This is not good news for Obama.

**Jewish voters. Obama has been weak in his support of Israel . Many Jewish voters and big donors are angry and disappointed. I predict Obama’s Jewish support drops from 78% in 2008 to the low 60’s. This is not good news for Obama.

**Youth voters. Obama’s biggest and most enthusiastic believers from 4 years ago have graduated into a job market from hell. Young people are disillusioned, frightened, and broke- a bad combination. The enthusiasm is long gone. Turnout will be much lower among young voters, as will actual voting percentages. This not good news for Obama.

**Catholic voters. Obama won a majority of Catholics in 2008. That won’t happen again. Out of desperation to please women, Obama went to war with the Catholic Church over contraception. Now he is being sued by the Catholic Church. Majority lost. This is not good news for Obama.

**Small Business owners. Because I ran for Vice President last time around, and I’m a small businessman myself, I know literally thousands of small business owners. At least 40% of them in my circle of friends, fans and supporters voted for Obama 4 years ago to give someone different a chance. As I warned them that he would pursue a war on capitalism and demonize anyone who owned a business…that he’d support unions over the private sector in a big way…that he’d overwhelm the economy with spending and debt. My friends didn’t listen. Four years later, I can’t find one person in my circle of small business owner friends voting for Obama. Not one. This is not good news for Obama.

**Blue collar working class whites. Do I need to say a thing? White working class voters are about as happy with Obama as Boston Red Sox fans feel about the New York Yankees. This is not good news for Obama.

**Suburban moms. The issue isn’t contraception, it’s having a job to pay for contraception. Obama’s economy frightens these moms. They are worried about putting food on the table. They fear for their children’s future. This is not good news for Obama.

**Military Veterans. McCain won this group by 10 points. Romney is winning by 24 points. The more our military vets got to see of Obama, the more they disliked him. This is not good news for Obama.

Add it up. Is there one major group where Obama has gained since 2008? Will anyone in America wake up on election day saying, I didn’t vote for Obama 4 years ago, but he’s done such a fantastic job, I can’t wait to vote for him today. Does anyone feel that a vote for Obama makes their job more secure?

Forget the polls. My gut instincts as a Vegas odds maker and common sense small businessman tell me this will be a historic landslide and a world-class repudiation of Obama’s radical and risky socialist agenda. It’s Reagan-Carter all over again.

lubbockonline.com/interact/blog-post/may/2012-06-22/las-vegas-oddsmaker-predicts-obama-will-have-landslide-loss

Interesting read, eh?

I disagree about Jewish voters. Jews vote, and they sure as heck are not going to vote en masse or any other way for Romney, even Orthodox Jews. Take it from a non-Las Vegas, New York insider. Also, what about the Hispanic vote and single women? And I doubt the Black vote is going to drop, not with the sentiment that Blacks are being disenfranchised by Republican leaders in states like Ohio and PA.

 

[SamH]

Temperatures are cooler, maybe?

I might put up a R/R sign and a O/B sign on my lawn to befuddle passers-by.

So you want your house egged twice?

 

[Joe_5859]

I seem to remember many Obama fans passing out or close to it because they were so overwhelmed. It seemed like he was always trying to get “some water” so someone that seemed to need it, in the crowd. I haven’t heard that AT ALL this time.

It also seems like his crowds are smaller.

I know a couple of families that had Obama yard signs last time. None of them have the signs this time.

So, I hope, they aren’t as energized as they were 4 years ago.

Right. And I think Romney, however one feels about him, is more energizing than McCain. It’s definitely going to be a much closer race than it was last time.

 

[Farsight001]

I’m mostly concerned about his implication that since we have high tech air craft carriers, we don’t need anything else. To develop only the largest and most powerful ships simply because they are the largest and most powerful and to think that would actually work effectively is ludicrous is belays a horrible horrible ignorance of military strategy. You ALWAYS need a variety, or you will be utterly demolished in war.

 

[Dawnia]

I seem to remember many Obama fans passing out or close to it because they were so overwhelmed. It seemed like he was always trying to get “some water” so someone that seemed to need it, in the crowd. I haven’t heard that AT ALL this time.

It also seems like his crowds are smaller.

I know a couple of families that had Obama yard signs last time. None of them have the signs this time.

So, I hope, they aren’t as energized as they were 4 years ago.

In '08 the O supporters I knew were very enthusiastic. They would go on and on about how great O was and how great he will be as president. And even though I didn’t agree with them, they certainly didn’t bite my head off because of it.

This time around…they are just crabby. It’s the evil Romney this and evil Romney that. And don’t dare ask them anything about O’s plans…they get hostile and go on and on about how evil Romney is.

The enthusiasm of 2008 is just gone.

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

So you want your house egged twice?

You’re a darned good guesser!

 

[qui_est_ce]

I disagree about Jewish voters. Jews vote, and they sure as heck are not going to vote en masse or any other way for Romney, even Orthodox Jews. Take it from a non-Las Vegas, New York insider. Also, what about the Hispanic vote and** single women**? And I doubt the Black vote is going to drop, not with the sentiment that Blacks are being disenfranchised by Republican leaders in states like Ohio and PA.

Single woman for Mitt.