pasted on skin tight pants!

[Julianna]

Maybe we need a new sig line: Proud to be an extremist!

do what you want…its your sig line…

I am not concerned with the heavy handedness on the right…scare tactics…don’t work with me… probably because I didn’t grow up in a fishbowl. Nor am I concerned with the heavy handedness on the left…despite what you think.

As a women, going about in sack cloth and ashes, and 5 steps behind my man, doesn’t make you any more a child of God than me. You choose your parish, I choose mine. I’m not into the dancing, and the waving arms either, but I am not going to tell the folks that do, they they are going to hell in a handbasket either. Nor am I going to tell you, that because women of your ilk are devoid of original thought as a human being, I wouldn’t say you are going to hell in handbasket either.

Actually, it is your sister, with the SSPX church that seems to have handle on things…they never changed. I can respect that.

Vat II just threw you all for a loop, didn’t it? I welcomed it with open arms. I understand clearly that you are NO…but I have read on many occasion, a “reverant”, “vertical” NO. This is what gets the passions stirred, it is as if St Peter gave you all a spare key, and somehow, the rest of us, because we waved our arms, or shook hands at the sign of peace, or allow female altar servers…that somehow we are lost for all eternity.

Mods, I am guilty of off topic. Please award me 5 points of demerits. But you know…I find it very difficult to defend myself, (just me, no gang, no group, no leader, no cut throats) on a thread for my thoughts. I have been struggling very hard whether to stay with the church or leave…yeah, I’m out there now. I thought by coming to these boards…based on my knowledge of the church growing up, the masses that were celebrated, my marriage in the church, the wonderful Easter Vigils that I have attended, the many young men and women I have sponsored, the years I spent as a CCD teacher, time and talent…only find, that I have been in the wrong church, it’s really 196?..and I have wasted 48 yrs. My father left, my brother left, my sister left…and now…I just don’t know.

 

[Marilena]

I will say it again!
I would rather be corrected by a woman who has never met me before than the Priest!!!

same here. i would rather someone i don’t know come up to me and acted to me as i acted to the other woman and state to me, marilena, that attire is not appropriate here, we have a dress code. my reaction? i would’ve told the stranger that came to me that iam sorry, i didn’t know the rules, and thank you kindly for telling me.

 

[Ecce_homo_1]

Dear fix,
The issue at hand is not correction. It is the appropriateness of the correction. If this woman were an aquaintance of the OP, or a family member, I would have said, “good for you, OP!” But as a stranger, never having seen this woman before, it was not her place to say a word to the offensively dressed woman. Damage could be done beyond the OP’s ability to repair. Say something to an usher or to Father? of course.

Prudence was not a consideration, and is not it seems, on this thread.

Marilena was plenty prudent, I remember once at my commuter Parish that frequently has the homelss sleeping in the pews a women who appeared intoxicated and talking to heself went up to receive Holy Communion and the Priest had her removed from the Church. Prudent yes, but not to the point where you compromise on allowing open sin and let an intoxicated person defile the Lord in Holy Communion, no she was put out on her ear by the usher who was volunteering on his lunch hour.

This is really common sense, no one abandons a search for God because a woman asked her not to wear hot pants to Church. I can’t believe we aren’t even all in agreement on this one.

 

[Karin]

Vat II just threw you all for a loop, didn’t it? I welcomed it with open arms. I understand clearly that you are NO…but I have read on many occasion, a “reverant”, “vertical” NO. This is what gets the passions stirred, it is as if St Peter gave you all a spare key, and somehow, the rest of us, because we waved our arms, or shook hands at the sign of peace, or allow female altar servers…that somehow we are lost for all eternity.

If you welcomed it with open arms why the issues now??

Mods, I am guilty of off topic. Please award me 5 points of demerits. But you know…I find it very difficult to defend myself, (just me, no gang, no group, no leader, no cut throats) on a thread for my thoughts.
Sorry but your thoughts on some threads (perhaps not all ) are so out there in regards to what the Church teaches…
how can you expect someone not to say something???

I have been struggling very hard whether to stay with the church or leave…yeah, I’m out there now. I thought by coming to these boards…based on my knowledge of the church growing up, the masses that were celebrated, my marriage in the church, the wonderful Easter Vigils that I have attended, the many young men and women I have sponsored, the years I spent as a CCD teacher, time and talent…only find, that I have been in the wrong church, it’s really 196?..and I have wasted 48 yrs. My father left, my brother left, my sister left…and now…I just don’t know.

yes totally off topic…but I am sure you will be saved the 5 demerits!
Is it the Mass that bothers you and you have issues with or something else?

 

[MaryD7]

how bout if i ask the question posted from a different point of view? what if i were to go to a mass where the dress code was only jeans an a t shirt, or shorts? i went there dressed in a long dress and a mantilla? would the reaction be the same or not?

I personally wouldn’t care but I know I’d be a little curious as to what you were all about. And I wouldn’t want to stop you from attending Mass just because of some clothes.

I guess it just comes down to how important it is to the host church that people dress a certain way. Obviously, it is very important in your chapel so that should be respected, as long as provision is made for people who unwittingly dress incorrectly. I would really hate to see people be turned away from a church.

 

[maurin]

how bout if i ask the question posted from a different point of view? what if i were to go to a mass where the dress code was only jeans an a t shirt, or shorts? i went there dressed in a long dress and a mantilla? would the reaction be the same or not?

Marilena,

good question! I certainly cannot answer for anyone else, and I am sure that there exists no Church with that kind of dress code, but you made me smile.

If I may share my own path, if you will, to Traditionalism:

In East Texas I belonged to a Parish that had a very small yet very vocal minority of Traditionalists. All received Him in the Eucharist on their knees and on the tongue. All the women covered their heads. A couple of the women were, in my opinion, so disrespectful to our Priests and to our Bishop, and were very disrespectful publicly. What scandal, I thought, and still do think.

However, one of their sons and I became friends. He invited me to their Bible studies. I LOVED them. I learned so much about Scripture and Theology. I still don’t approve of the way his mom treated our Priests and Bishops, nor how the other women did, but I began to appreciate why they had such strong reactions.

It seems that the more Traditionalists I came across in the different states I have lived in these past 3 years, the more convinced I became that they are scandal makers. But the more I got to know them on personal level, the more I have fallen in love with Traditional Catholicism.

I have, to date, not had the opportunity to immerse myself in a Traditional Parish; and I would like to very much. I have spoken before on other threads about the p(name removed by moderator)ricks I suffer at my present Parish.

And Marilena (what a pretty name), I regret very much if I have offended you in any of my posts. But I also stand by my assessments of this thread.

God love us and bear with us all as we grow in love, faith, hope and charity.

 

[Marilena]

iam not offended at all. i believe we all have a right to our opinion even if we don’t agree with what others say.

 

[maurin]

Marilena was plenty prudent, I remember once at my commuter Parish that frequently has the homelss sleeping in the pews a women who appeared intoxicated and talking to heself went up to receive Holy Communion and the Priest had her removed from the Church. Prudent yes, but not to the point where you compromise on allowing open sin and let an intoxicated person defile the Lord in Holy Communion, no she was put out on her ear by the usher who was volunteering on his lunch hour.

This is really common sense, no one abandons a search for God because a woman asked her not to wear hot pants to Church. I can’t believe we aren’t even all in agreement on this one.

Dear Ecce,

I do not believe that you understand the point of what I wrote. it is very possible that I did not explain myself in the most clear manner.

 

[Marilena]

i was reprimanded by a priest once just for kneeling before him in the communion line to receive a blessing. he took me aside after mass and told me not to do it again because it was a distraction. my reaction? i thanked him for telling me, and i did not do it again.

 

[netmilsmom]

I am not concerned with the heavy handedness on the right.

The right what?

 

[Julianna]

The right what?

right=conservative

I understand clearly that you are NO…but I have read on many occasion, a “reverant”, “vertical” NO. This is what gets the passions stirred, it is as if St Peter gave you all a spare key, and somehow, the rest of us, because we waved our arms, or shook hands at the sign of peace, or allow female altar servers…that somehow we are lost for all eternity.

 

[netmilsmom]

I understand clearly that you are NO…but I have read on many occasion, a “reverant”, “vertical” NO. This is what gets the passions stirred, it is as if St Peter gave you all a spare key,

Hmmmm, maybe he did!

 

[kage_ar]

this OP does attend an SSPX chapel indeed. We are not the only church to appreciate modesty in dress either. iam quite sure there are others out there that require modesty.

Whew - I was back to being afraid to attend TLM for a minute! I will make a note to self, I’d not be welcomed in an SSPX chapel. Reminds me very much of the Holiness Pentecostal groups in the Southern USA when it comes to dress code.

I’m one of those women who always wears slacks, pant suits and dress slacks with twin sets or sweaters is my formal wear. Yes, I wear slacks to high level corporate meetings and to weddings.

 

[teachccd]

No one is judging this woman’s inward piety, Teachccd, but she was wearing inappropriate immodest attire to Mass. Someone who is covered in head to toe and has a soul stained with sin at least would not be leading others into sin by their appearance. This woman’s scandalous attire could and probably did lead men and boys into sin and provoke lustful thoughts. The Mass is one place we should not have to worry about that happening, don’t you think? So I applaud Marilena for her courageous action.

There is no doubt that the attire worn at Mass is sad. I use the term sad because most people would dress better for dinner with a friend. Aside from immodest dress, which is becoming more prevalent, we have guys wearing old cut-off shorts, thong sandals, T-shirts hanging out. When I was a child most men wore a suit and women wore dresses and head coverings. Now we accept anything because we don’t want to “lose” our youth to the other protestant “youth friendly” churches down the street. My point in this thread is that 1) this woman’s dress was inappropriate, 2) Marilena did well in telling her, 3) this did present itself as an occassion of sin for others and 4) we need to pray and thank God that we have the decency to discern how we need to dress at the table of Our Lord. It is sad. If more people understood what the Mass truly is they would be compelled to dress appropriately. Our Church is in dire need of better catechesis but I could write another page on that . God Bless you all…

 

[lizaanne]

My goodness - I turn around after a couple hours to do some work and this is STILL going on!!???

Where are the mods? And why is this still rambling on? What is the point already?

This poor dead horse is stinking up the place…

:yawn: And it’s just gotten plain boring if you ask me. What else could possibly be said at this point that hasn’t already been said, and said, and said, and said?

~Liza

 

[teachccd]

My goodness - I turn around after a couple hours to do some work and this is STILL going on!!???

Where are the mods? And why is this still rambling on? What is the point already?

This poor dead horse is stinking up the place…

:yawn: And it’s just gotten plain boring if you ask me. What else could possibly be said at this point that hasn’t already been said, and said, and said, and said?

~Liza

From California to Michigan-----I agree!

 

[MichaelTDoyle]

…I just don’t know.

If you can say in your heart, He is there under the appearances of bread and wine, then you do know and in your heart of hearts rejoice in knowing.

With Christ’s promise to Peter and the faithful teaching you have upheld in CCD you know we have communion with Him. If you are weary and I am too often weary, go to Him in prayer, in adoration, in confession, and ascend then to communion.

He will not make the problems disappear, but He will refresh our spirit and I believe He will reward us with an increase in faith, hope and charity.

mike
(btw I’m talking to myself more than you, but your honesty reached out and grabbed me)
peace

 

[stinkcat_14]

I guess the dress code for SSPX churches varies according to who you know:

sspx-schism.com/Det-1.htm

 

[paramedicgirl]

do what you want…its your sig line…

I am not concerned with the heavy handedness on the right…scare tactics…don’t work with me… probably because I didn’t grow up in a fishbowl. Nor am I concerned with the heavy handedness on the left…despite what you think.

As a women, going about in sack cloth and ashes, and 5 steps behind my man, doesn’t make you any more a child of God than me. You choose your parish, I choose mine. I’m not into the dancing, and the waving arms either, but I am not going to tell the folks that do, they they are going to hell in a handbasket either. Nor am I going to tell you, that because women of your ilk are devoid of original thought as a human being, I wouldn’t say you are going to hell in handbasket either.

Actually, it is your sister, with the SSPX church that seems to have handle on things…they never changed. I can respect that.

Vat II just threw you all for a loop, didn’t it? I welcomed it with open arms. I understand clearly that you are NO…but I have read on many occasion, a “reverant”, “vertical” NO. This is what gets the passions stirred, it is as if St Peter gave you all a spare key, and somehow, the rest of us, because we waved our arms, or shook hands at the sign of peace, or allow female altar servers…that somehow we are lost for all eternity.

Mods, I am guilty of off topic. Please award me 5 points of demerits. But you know…I find it very difficult to defend myself, (just me, no gang, no group, no leader, no cut throats) on a thread for my thoughts. I have been struggling very hard whether to stay with the church or leave…yeah, I’m out there now. I thought by coming to these boards…based on my knowledge of the church growing up, the masses that were celebrated, my marriage in the church, the wonderful Easter Vigils that I have attended, the many young men and women I have sponsored, the years I spent as a CCD teacher, time and talent…only find, that I have been in the wrong church, it’s really 196?..and I have wasted 48 yrs. My father left, my brother left, my sister left…and now…I just don’t know.

The bolded part is quite the personal insult, don’t you think? Maybe those demerits you are requesting aren’t a bad idea, after all.

 

[Marilena]

My goodness - I turn around after a couple hours to do some work and this is STILL going on!!???

Where are the mods? And why is this still rambling on? What is the point already?

This poor dead horse is stinking up the place…

:yawn: And it’s just gotten plain boring if you ask me. What else could possibly be said at this point that hasn’t already been said, and said, and said, and said?

~Liza

if you don’t want to post and don’t want it to continue why add to it? if you think its boring then don’t add your replies to it. i enjoy the posts here personally, be the agreeable or not. why do we have this forum then if people just want the post to be shut down because its not to their liking that it is continuing?