pasted on skin tight pants!

[Marilena]

perhaps someone did. i don’t know. i had to leave so i just don’t know. but assured, father does know about it. likely there might be a homily about dress codes, or modesty or something similar.

 

[Ecce_homo_1]

Right, which means the men that “qawked” should of been equally reminded of this.

To be honest, I don’t know which is worst.

The women’s dress or the men’s behavior right after they all just recieved Christ. It’s my opinion it’s equal.

So l’m just wondering why no body saw fit to say something to the men.

Because there is obviously a sexist agenda at work here… I think everyone can see your question is now trying to turn this into some sexist agenda, which it isn’t… It’s about a women dressing like a prostitute to Mass.

I tell you what if I go to Mass and a guy is wearing a banana hammock I’ll definitely say something to him, but will refrain from running around the Church chiding every woman who dared look at the person making an obvious spectacle of themselves.

I’m just guessing you don’t wear a head covering?

 

[Mommyof02green]

Very good observation Mommy of 2!

But I think that being that the OP is female it would be inappropriate of her to say anything. Perhaps the priest can bring up the true meaning of modesty in his next homily. Afterall Modesty isn’t simply a matter of dress, it includes action also.

 

[Karin]

thank you for reminding us that there are worse things outside the fishbowl that need our attention…
[/quote]

what happens in the fishbowl effects thing soutside the fishbowl and vice versa…sad state of affairs

 

[deb1]

THIS IS WHAT I WAS GETTING AT! About the jealousy, ok i understand you werent jealous! point taken! But Im sure that these men were sinning much worse than the woman. She may not have even known what she was doing! These men are practicing Catholics and DO know better! But im sure they got an elbow to the side by their wives! Are you going to take note on the men that were sinning and chastize them next sunday? Of course not, this is the double standard in America even within the Catholic Church. Women act like hookers, and the men-oh they are just men acting like men!

If she didn’t know better then it is kind of a woman to speak to her and explain the rules.

I think that women should do this for other women and men should do this for men.

Marilina is a woman so she is probably more concerned with how to approach another woman. I don’t even know how I would tell a man, who isn’t my hubby, not to gawk or stare. This would be better coming from a male. Just because Marilina though did not see any men speaking to those males who were doing wrong does not mean that she shouldn’t have come forward and spoken to the woman.

I do not think that real men act like those described. Just like women, real men can be held to a higher standard.

 

[Mommyof02green]

Because there is obviously a sexist agenda at work here… I think everyone can see your question is now trying to turn this into some sexist agenda, which it isn’t… It’s about a women dressing like a prostitute to Mass.

I think the OP would agree that it’s about Modesty!

And I hope that the OP would agree with Deb1 statement:

Afterall Modesty isn’t simply a matter of dress, it includes action also.

 

[netmilsmom]

Women act like hookers, and the men-oh they are just men acting like men!

I’m sorry but I want my man to be a man.
If he didn’t gawk at this woman, then become embarrassed in his own special way (God Love him) I would be surprised.

Men were made to reproduce. In nature, they would take the way this woman acted as a sign that she was fertile. Now you expect my man to act like a woman and not read into the signs? His Biology and ability to mate at a moment’s notice is also a Gift from God. We are still mammals and only our reasoning power make us different. Our brains overcome our bodies only with thoughts.

Now I’m not saying that he should be acting on this, but she put herself into the arena of “the near occasion of sin” by dressing this way. “She didn’t know” is not an excuse.
My hubby would have had a lustful thought. It’s nature and it would have been a venial sin. But, who is the one saying the Act of Contrition and who disregarded it? The one place where all men should be able to come WITHOUT that factor, should be our parish.

 

[Marilena]

it is about modesty, but its also about respect for our Lord.

 

[Cristiano]

What she was wearing is certainly disrespectful, but why do you think that you can cast the first stone? You were sinning in your heart being openly sanctimonious and disrespecting her as a daughter of Christ! I cant see anyone not fitting in and not realizing it! I dont think you can call someone a hooker and still call yourself a christian! Do you see why so many people leave the church to go to more accepting ones? Im sure the girl was not wearing them to be scandalous. For all you know… Well for all dont know I should say… You dont know what the reason for it was! SO STOP CASTING STONES!

You are saying that the woman was dressed in an irreverent way to God, But Marilena did not respect her as a daughter of Christ. I really do not get your theology behind this statement.
Can you please describe her intention (what was in her heart), the grave or venial matter that she did, and how she consented to it.
It is fine for you to criticize the act/attire of that woman based on hearsay (forum posts) and you condemn Marilena for reminding her how we should be dressed when going to the feast of the Lord? In the Gospels it was made it clear how we should be dressed for the feast of the Lord. Marilena said that she did not consider that woman as a hooker and it did not appear to me that she went into discussing the woman intentions, just the attire.

You are putting words in Marilena mouth, and that is bearing false witness.

People usually go to more friendly churches because they do not want to accept what the Church teaches. What about growing up and taking responsibilities as children of God by following His rules instead of saying that my brother or my sister picked on me.

 

[fix]

But Im sure that these men were sinning much worse than the woman. She may not have even known what she was doing! These men are practicing Catholics and DO know better! But im sure they got an elbow to the side by their wives! Are you going to take note on the men that were sinning and chastize them next sunday? Of course not, this is the double standard in America even within the Catholic Church. Women act like hookers, and the men-oh they are just men acting like men!

How would the OP know if men, or women, were sinning by lustful thoughts? The issue here is a person dressed immodestly. That is a public issue.

Are you claiming public displays that may be scandalous should not be properly addressed because we all sin privately?

 

[Walking_Home]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecce_homo
There’s nothing wrong with kindly taking a woman aside who is dressed like a prostitute in Church and explaining that it is innapropriate to do so. People getting on the OP are just trying to start trouble IMO. There’s nothing unbiblical or wrong with correcting obvious lapses in morals of fellow believers, nothing nada…

have to agree…
but then that is just my own humble opinion!

---

I agree too.

 

[Karin]

People usually go to more friendly churches because they do not want to accept what the Church teaches. What about growing up and taking responsibilities as children of God by following His rules instead of saying that my brother or my sister picked on me.

 

[TOP]

I wonder what you would say to me about my full sleeve tattoes if you where to see them? Would you take me to the side and explain the error of my ways? Maybe Father could use me as an example. I would have to tell you both about my conversion and how the Lord Himself looked past that when He converted me. Maybe she was a recent convert and had no other clothes to wear.Tim

 

[Ecce_homo_1]

I’m sorry but I want my man to be a man.
If he didn’t gawk at this woman, then become embarrassed in his own special way (God Love him) I would be surprised.

Men were made to reproduce. In nature, they would take the way this woman acted as a sign that she was fertile. Now you expect my man to act like a woman and not read into the signs? His Biology and ability to mate at a moment’s notice is also a Gift from God. We are still mammals and only our reasoning power make us different. Our brains overcome our bodies only with thoughts.

Now I’m not saying that he should be acting on this, but she put herself into the arena of “the near occasion of sin” by dressing this way. “She didn’t know” is not an excuse.
My hubby would have had a lustful thought. It’s nature and it would have been a venial sin. But, who is the one saying the Act of Contrition and who disregarded it? The one place where all men should be able to come WITHOUT that factor, should be our parish.

God Bless you netil(name removed by moderator), I see common sense hasn’t been completely abandoned by good Catholics…

I think so many Catholics have bought into popular culture of feminism at all costs, that they can defend a woman dressing like a prostitute to Mass by puting the blame on the men (which is totally off topic BTW), or the “you’re O.K., I’m O.K.” ideology of “who cares how she dresses there’s bigger fish to fry”… Which reminds me of how NYC reduced murder, rape, and theft… By enforcing the small crimes like graffiti, pot possesion, and shoplifting.

 

[BEattitude]

If she didn’t know better then it is kind of a woman to speak to her and explain the rules.

I think that women should do this for other women and men should do this for men.

Marilina is a woman so she is probably more concerned with how to approach another woman. I don’t even know how I would tell a man, who isn’t my hubby, not to gawk or stare. This would be better coming from a male. Just because Marilina though did not see any men speaking to those males who were doing wrong does not mean that she shouldn’t have come forward and spoken to the woman.

I do not think that real men act like those described. Just like women, real men can be held to a higher standard.

Well since everyone is throwing Jesus and Mary Magdalene into the mix… He was a man and she was a woman. I wouldnt feel “comfortable” saying that stuff to any woman but a sister. I have NEVER in my life heard about a man chastizing another man about “looking” or “gauking”. That is unrealitic! I think you should have let whoever this woman came to mass with tell her. Do you really think that she didnt know she was out of place? That is hard to believe! Do you think that she is more or less likey to step foot in that church modestly dressed because of what you said to her? Its not like she came in a bakini, just tight pants. I wear somewhat tight pants all the time, sometimes to Mass. I just got to see these pants to see what all the fuss is about. Do you think you could find a picture that is similar and post it so we know how scandalous this was. Seriously, You got me curious now!

 

[deb1]

Because there is obviously a sexist agenda at work here… I think everyone can see your question is now trying to turn this into some sexist agenda, which it isn’t… It’s about a women dressing like a prostitute to Mass.

I tell you what if I go to Mass and a guy is wearing a banana hammock I’ll definitely say something to him, but will refrain from running around the Church chiding every woman who dared look at the person making an obvious spectacle of themselves.

I’m just guessing you don’t wear a head covering?

I certainly hope that if a man wore a pair of speedos to Mass that someone would correct him! Granted, regardless of the guy’s looks-he could be physically unattractive-I would have trouble not staring at such attire.

 

[netmilsmom]

I wonder what you would say to me about my full sleeve tattoes if you where to see them? Would you take me to the side and explain the error of my ways? Maybe Father could use me as an example. I would have to tell you both about my conversion and how the Lord Himself looked past that when He converted me. Maybe she was a recent convert and had no other clothes to wear.Tim

Only if you were in Spandex below the waist.

Come on. You can’t just slip off your tatoos for Holy Mass, but the woman here could have gotten into something less seductive.

 

[Marilena]

its not up to me to talk about tattoos. my brother attends as well, and he has a huge tattoo down his left arm, and he dresses modestly. its not my place to walk up to a man and tell him that his tattoos may or may not be acceptable. there is no specification that i know of in our parish regarding men and tattoos. and if there are rules regarding tattoos on men or women, iam unaware of it.

 

[BEattitude]

I certainly hope that if a man wore a pair of speedos to Mass that someone would correct him! Granted, regardless of the guy’s looks-he could be physically unattractive-I would have trouble not staring at such attire.

How can you compare speedos to pants? IF she came in bakini clad you might have an argument here! Your analogy is quite appalling!

 

[deb1]

I wonder what you would say to me about my full sleeve tattoes if you where to see them? Would you take me to the side and explain the error of my ways? Maybe Father could use me as an example. I would have to tell you both about my conversion and how the Lord Himself looked past that when He converted me. Maybe she was a recent convert and had no other clothes to wear.Tim

Having a tattoo is not a sin and as long as you don’t have naked women on your arm, I doubt that you are indecent. Just don’t come to Mass in a pair of speedos and you’ll be all right.