People spew venom at Ted Cruz over photo with deer he hunted: 'You're not a Human Being

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Ted Cruz again can post a picture of a deer as long as he has a permit and has taken the deer during licensed hunting season…
He could post a picture of the deer even if he didnt have a license or killed it out of season or had killed it illegally in some other way. Peolle can voice objection or support for it, condemn or praise it, and express their opinion about it.
He could but then the issue would be a fine for illegal hunting and I am sure that would be a bigger story.
 
He could but then
That’s shifting to something else. I responded to a declaration of what he can do with an expanded declaration of what he and other people can also do. Up until now, statements on what one can do have been on what someone can post, so I’ve stayed on that topic.

Fines from the state do not change that he can post it.
 
If hunters don’t hunt cars will and lots of people will be killed! Facts!
 
I hope you do realize as a self-proclaimed liberal that you do not speak for the majority of liberals who see deer or any animal as humans and are opposed to not only hunting but fishing and I won’t even get into trapping for pelts
I think you need to quit defining liberals as what you see on the East and west coasts. 😂. Liberals in Colorado are a different breed…Wyoming liberals, even more so. No group is monolithic in thought!
 
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I hope you do realize as a self-proclaimed liberal that you do not speak for the majority of liberals who see deer or any animal as humans and are opposed to not only hunting but fishing and I won’t even get into trapping for pelts
I think you need to quit defining liberals as what you see on the East and west coasts. 😂. Liberals in Colorado are a different breed…Wyoming liberals, even more so. No group is monolithic in thought!
Liberals in the West are not much different. We have a brother in Colorado and he tells us some stories. Maybe in Wyoming or the" hunting" communities, liberals are different. .Vermont is pretty liberal but not when it comes to gun ownership,. There is no gun registration and Vermont is open carry.
 
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Liberals in the West are not much different. We have a brother in Colorado and he tells us some stories. Maybe in Wyoming or the" hunting" communities, liberals are different. .Vermont is pretty liberal but not when it comes to gun ownership,. There is no gun registration and Vermont is open carry.
As is Colorado…or at least certain areas like mine. I own guns and am trained in using them but I think large cities shouldn’t have lax rules surrounding them. Location seems to matter. Whereas no one would blink at a rancher carrying a rifle and pistol on his belt, in a big cite it is different. I don’t have answers. I just know that the rules of ownership may need to address the type of community one lives in and where in the US they are located.
 
Location does matter and liberals do have different opinions but liberals, in general, do not like hunting or fishing.

Off-topic- and can’t post. picture.

There is a scene in Home Alone where McCauley Culkin holds a BB gun. This year is the thirtieth anniversary of that movie and have seen picture on news sites. I wonder if the scene has been cut.
 
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This isn’t the 19th century where a deer has to provide a family with food for the winter. Odds are if they can afford ammunition they can afford food.

Now for poor people, that’s a different story.
Hunting is used to control the deer populations in many states to keep the populations healthy. And as far as meat goes, who cares if it is in the individual hunter who kills an animal, or a beef processing facility? Not really seeing the point you are trying to make here.
 
I don’t hunt, but I do live in the country. If the animal is going to be consumed (and not just left to rot after its head is removed as a trophy), and if the level of hunting does not threaten the population, then I see nothing wrong. Those who object should remember how deer “in the wild” die. They die of starvation. They die of disease. They die of exposure. They die of injury (including being hit by cars). What they don’t don’t do is die peacefully in their beds.
 
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People where I live hunt deer and they eat it. Some because they like to hunt, some because they need the meat, and for most, they like the way it tastes.

And yes, they need to be controlled by hunting sometimes.

Some people are just opposed to hunting, period. They don’t care why or what it is. And most likely they hate guns as well.
 
I used to not be able to figure out why anyone would hunt and eat squirrel…
In colonial times, for a large portion of the population, if you didn’t get a squirrel that day, there was likely no meat in the stewpot that night . . .

Which likely (it’s disputed) made a difference when we had folks used to shooting squirrels scrambling about shooting at folks trained to shoot upright men in convenient formations . . .
The old saying about don’t look at what goes into sausages
Otto von Bismark: men who enjoy sausage and respect the law shouldn’t watch either being made.
 
This isn’t the 19th century where a deer has to provide a family with food for the winter. Odds are if they can afford ammunition they can afford food.
It’s true that most people who hunt aren’t doing it because they need the meat. They’re doing it because they like hunting. Which, in my mind, is fine. Just do it legally and humanely.
 
This isn’t the 19th century where a deer has to provide a family with food for the winter. Odds are if they can afford ammunition they can afford food.

Now for poor people, that’s a different story.
I know a handful of people that really do hunt for their food. They max it out during the hunting season, process and store the meat. While it is not so much because they cannot afford food, they are not rich and this is one way of eating better on less.

I am biased, having been the recipient of excellent venison steaks from time to time.
If hunters don’t hunt cars will and lots of people will be killed! Facts!
One guy I am thinking of has done that. Not hunted himself, but volunteered to process a deer once that was killed by a car and gave the meat to some charity.

This is Texas, and being a deer hunter carries no stigma. I would say that unless one is a vegetarian, then you just hire out your meat processing. I have no use for guns or hunting, but I also have no problem with those that do.
 
Do they? I’m a self-confessed socialist and I’ve shot an animal or two in my day? I’m just too short-sighted to be much of a great hunter. Hunting in Britain or Ireland is very much something only a few people engage in any more but I’ve done it with my brother-in-law in Russia. I’d be good enough if I practice to possibly survive but that would be about it, he’s an expert. There’s a vast difference.

Culling deer is considered a very normal practice in Scotland for example by the way by rural people there. You at times get people from outside the area moaning about it. Usually they haven’t taken the time to learn about the problems when the population is not culled.
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Massachusetts was once a great deer hunting ground especially in the Western part of the state but once the Democratic government got its grip, the whole state got very strict with licenses,.

Talk about the city, there were a number of black groups that got together and would come into the rural areas to hunt, or run their dogs. Towns closed down open areas and liberal, yes liberal homeowners who did not like hunters, posted their land so others could not hunt.

Liberals, in general, do not like guns or fishermen. that is why Ted Cruz posing with a deer is even a story.
 
It is probably not needed in many parts of the world. What folks seem to remember about hunting is that it is a substitution for other ways populations are culled, starvation and disease. Most places where hunting is common is well regulated to keep that part of nature in balance. It really is a pretty good system. There are some game where they have to resort to a lottery system to see who gets to hunt, when the numbers become less, and temporary hunting bans can follow. On the other hand, sometimes limits are temporarily raised.

The same thing happens in fishing, by the way.
 
Liberals, in general, do not like guns or fishermen. that is why Ted Cruz posing with a deer is even a story.
Liberals also just don’t like Ted Cruz. They’d criticize him regardless.

Crazy people on the internet say all sorts of crazy stuff. This isn’t much of a story.
 
It is probably not needed in many parts of the world. What folks seem to remember about hunting is that it is a substitution for other ways populations are culled, starvation and disease. Most places where hunting is common is well regulated to keep that part of nature in balance. It really is a pretty good system. There are some game where they have to resort to a lottery system to see who gets to hunt, when the numbers become less, and temporary hunting bans can follow. On the other hand, sometimes limits are temporarily raised.

The same thing happens in fishing, by the way.
There is a lottery (permits) of deer and moose but nothing else. There is a season on turkeys.

There is no lottery on fish except there is a license and a limit on how many fish you can take per day.

No most liberals, do not like hunters and they do not like fishermen either. It is about the animals and not the families and food.
 
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I don’t think it’s a good idea to give nut jobs, trolls, or bad actors any attention. Twitter is functioning exactly as it’s intended to function. It spreads sensationalism via “useful idiots” and gets to have its branding engrained into everyone. Ted Cruz should know better unless he has some ulterior motive.

This is yet another trash/dumpster fire thread that everyone seems to be drawn to. These types of threads get all the posts.
 
I don’t think it’s a good idea to give nut jobs, trolls, or bad actors any attention. Twitter is functioning exactly as it’s intended to function. It spreads sensationalism via “useful idiots” and gets to have its branding engrained into everyone. Ted Cruz should know better unless he has some ulterior motive.

This is yet another trash/dumpster fire thread that everyone seems to be drawn to. These types of threads get all the posts.
They get posts because hunters and fishermen have been under attack for years. Liberals want to assure hunters that, that is really not the case.

When is the last time you saw someone wear fur? If you going to kill the animal and eat it, why not make a leather jacket out of the skin.
 
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There is a lottery (permits) of deer and moose but nothing else. There is a season on turkeys.
New Mexico had a lottery on elk. Additionally, land owners were given one permit per a certain acreage, for use on their land only. It was pretty tightly controlled. My father used to run hunts up in the high country before he passed. Somehow, that hunting gene never made it to me.

There really is no stereotypical hunter. It is a diverse lot.
 
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