Pope Francis criticizes Trump's 'zero-tolerance' migrant policy

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catholic1seeks said:
I’m saying that’s what many of you guys said on the thread yesterday when I and others brought up the bishops’ words about separating families. You guys were like “I don’t see concrete solutions from bishops! What would you have us do any differently???”

And yet quite obviously, family separation didn’t HAVE to be a policy, in the first place.

So yes, the bishops MUST speak to moral truths. The complexities of the situation is left for the politicians, but saying the bishops don’t have concrete solutions is just an irrelevant tangent. The said could be said for any moral issue: The bishops give principles. Abortion is evil. That doesn’t mean the bishops always have a full-proof way of preventing unwanted pregnancy, poverty, etc.
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Separating children is evil, but without offering help it’s simply a “thoughts and prayers” reaction. Bishops spend a great amount of time and money in their dioceses fighting abortion. Many bishops oversee diocesan operations that spend a great amount of time and money overseeing legal immigration.

They can’t come up with one thing besides getting political that Catholics should do?

Offer buildings? Manpower? Call on the world for help? They’ve offered nothing.

We cannot impeach Trump for this. We’re stuck with him. We cannot “fire” lawmakers until November at the very earliest.

You’re telling me they can’t come up with anything?
 
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No, no, no…

That is just what people say when the bishops speak the truth that is NOT in alignment with their political allegiance.

After all, let me guess. Are you Republican?
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I am not American and I live in the third world. You are being played by Marxist propaganda masquerading as compassion.
 
Offer buildings? Manpower? Call on the world for help? They’ve offered nothing.
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They do several things, one of which is suggesting the immediate need to contact lawmakers for change.

More than likely, people got to Trump - in some way - that change needed to occur.

And he followed through.
 
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Mass immigration from non-English speaking, non-European nations will change American society forever.
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So? Do you fear non-English speakers?
If I had power, the first thing I’d do is stop all Muslim immigration to Europe.
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Sounds a lot like Jesus!

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The church used to go into countries and help develop them.

They seem to have forgotten how to do that and what it takes to build successful countries.

Now it is all about demanding a right on others labour.
 
we’re taking on refugees at the rate of 1 million a year. Legally. Already.
 
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SO??? Why should that be our motive to keep immigrants out?
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I care about the fact that my culture, my language and my civilisation are under threat. I’m not American but I can see what’s going to happen over there because it’s already happened here in Europe.
 
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catholic1seeks said:
Good. Let’s do more. They’re in need? As Christians, we’re called to help.
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How?

There are 350 Million Americans. 41 Million Americans live below the poverty line. We already accept 1 million legally. We have millions of people here on tourist, cultural exchange, low-skill seasonal and high skill work.

Perhaps the question is how are you going to do more?
 
We help by exporting successful concepts such as capitalism, medicine, technology etc not by playing at social engineering which threatens culture in a heartless way.

You risk killing the golden goose or destroying the city on the hill.
 
Perhaps the question is how are you going to do more?
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That is the question for all of us. Every single person, every community, every political party, every state, our churches, and our government as a whole.
 
This thread is a disgusting display of hyper partisanship and uncharitable attacks on the pope and the bishops.

Unreal! Who ever would have thought fighting for families would lead to all this?!

Time for a CAF break.
 
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Perhaps the question is how are you going to do more?
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And for those of us who aren’t even considered part of the 41 million in poverty but living paycheck to paycheck on a substance existence?

I have had immigrants in my home, shared a meal of what little I had. I gave rides. I revised resumes. I watched children. I helped with English. I work in ESL testing so children can be guaranteed a free and adequate education.

What have you done?
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