Redeeming Qualities in Same-Sex Relationships

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=lileli;13189839]exactly how do you have to pay for it?
For one thing, because children raised by gay couples are more likely to be dependent on government.
Children to learn tolerance in order to function in a multi cultural society.
What about cultures that think homosexuality is punishable by death? If we are truly multi-cultural, and “equal” why not teach that perspective?
 
For one thing, because children raised by gay couples are more likely to be dependent on government.

Bahahah where in the world did you get such a ridiculous notion? I have never seen a CBO report about this. Please don’t make things up.

What about cultures that think homosexuality is punishable by death? If we are truly multi-cultural, and “equal” why not teach that perspective?
…Clearly we are for things that uplift people. Barbaric practices are not considered equal.
 
=lileli;13190344]…Clearly we are for things that uplift people.
So-called gay “marriage” doesn’t uplift people.
Barbaric practices are not considered equal.
So then you’re not really for equality/multi-culturalism by progressive standards?
 
Clearly you don’t know what science is. A non peer reviewed article is meaningless and it conducts no experiments, has no control groups, and makes no attempt to use the scientific method. Four children…thank you for such a wide spread sample group.

We can both play that game…
christianpost.com/news/testimony-of-lesbians-son-goes-viral-on-youtube-48829/

Unfortunately, even though homosexual parents are just as capable as heterosexual parents, the children must deal with bigotry and the ills of society. Absent of such hate, there is no evidence whatsoever that being raised by homosexual parents leads to negative results.
 
So-called gay “marriage” doesn’t uplift people.

So then you’re not really for equality/multi-culturalism by progressive standards?
Your idea of progressive standards is just wrong. Progressives have stood up time and time again against the horrible practices that many cultures engage in, especially in regards to women. Your narrow-minded fox news version of progressive doesnt exist.
 
Your “scientific fact” is interesting, indeed. This must mean that dogs are meant to have sex with my chairs, poles, and sometimes my leg.

The real issue is not what WE think on the issue, or whatever “scientific fact” you think you can come up with. The real issue is what God thinks, and I can tell that you don’t care what He wants. If you did, you would want to do what He says, and stay away from the things that He says aren’t good for us.

What you are looking for is a *Unitarian Church *and I hope you find one that makes you happy. Please leave the Catholic Church alone. They want to love you and help you to understand things, but it sounds like you’re just looking for an organization that believes in what CS Lewis called a senile heavenly grandfather that just wants to give you spiritual candy and doesn’t care what you do. That kind of god doesn’t exist. God is our Heavenly Father who cares about us enough to make us brush our spiritual teeth so that we are healthy and happy.
Spoken with great charity and love. Thank you.
 
Again, making assumptions about me isn’t me very Christian like. Just because I don’t agree with YOUR assumption of what God thinks doesnt mean I don’t care about the ideas of the Lord. I was baptized Catholic and have been Catholic therefore by Church teaching I am Catholic. Are you trying to kick me out? I don’t believe Pope Francis would appreciate your attitude much.
I don’t think any of the posters want to kick you out of the Church. I honestly think that the posters are looking to give you guidance so that you can experience your eternal reward in Heaven.
 
A non peer reviewed article is meaningless and it conducts no experiments, has no control groups, and makes no attempt to use the scientific method. Four children…thank you for such a wide spread sample group.
Actually, the peer-reviewed process is riddled with scandal and corruption and people just not doing a very good job. I know something about that, and I have b both published and reviewed papers before.
Unfortunately, even though homosexual parents are just as capable as heterosexual parents, the children must deal with bigotry and the ills of society. Absent of such hate, there is no evidence whatsoever that being raised by homosexual parents leads to negative results.
Actually, they are not as capable and research and the testimonies I have showed you confirm that. So there’s already mounting evidence that shows a straight and gay relationship can never be “equal”, especially when it comes to raising kids.

Also, opposing so-called gay “marriage” is not bigotry.

And what hate? I thought so-called gay “marriage” had won the day. So which is it? Either they are these poor little victims, or they’ve won.

Can’t be both.
 
lileli;13190363]Your idea of progressive standards is just wrong. Progressives have stood up time and time again against the horrible practices that many cultures engage in, especially in regards to women.
So then why aren’t progressives in the First World going after ISIS for treating women badly?
Your narrow-minded fox news version of progressive doesnt exist.
I wish I had a dollar every time someone attacked FOX NEWS, and all I can do is :yawn: and snooze!

And I wish I had another dollar every time someone attacked FOX NEWS had never seen an unedited, complete episode of FOX NEWS.

And I wish I had yet another dollar every time someone who thought my source was FOX NEWS and actually wasn’t, so can’t they see--------

What a merry little, rich, merry ol’ fellow I could be! 😉
 
Actually, the peer-reviewed process is riddled with scandal and corruption and people just not doing a very good job. I know something about that, and I have b both published and reviewed papers before.

Actually, they are not as capable and research and the testimonies I have showed you confirm that. So there’s already mounting evidence that shows a straight and gay relationship can never be “equal”, especially when it comes to raising kids.

Also, opposing so-called gay “marriage” is not bigotry.

And what hate? I thought so-called gay “marriage” had won the day. So which is it? Either they are these poor little victims, or they’ve won.

Can’t be both.
You submitted a sample size of 4! No respect researcher would dare draw such conclusions on , at best, case studies! The evidence I provided demonstrates completely the opposite. That is why anecdotal evidence holds very little weight.

Here is a summary of a real study…but again multiple studies need to be done to confirm what already is obvious…gay people can excellent parents as well.
medicaldaily.com/study-finds-same-sex-couples-make-better-parents-it-because-theyre-more-prepared-291628
 
…Clearly we are for things that uplift people. Barbaric practices are not considered equal.
That which is termed “barbaric” to some is also called “enlightened” to others. So how do you determine what is barbaric, and what is not? Should I simply say that whatever you say is right? No. Should I simply say that whatever* I *say is right? No. We go to God, since He is our starting point for what is right and what is wrong. You have skirted around what God wants because you aren’t really interested in what He has to say if it goes against your political correctness. (Again, I can provide you with a list of what He thinks about homosexuality from His own words, but I’m pretty sure you already know them, which is why you avoid them).

I believe that you truly want to do what is right, and once He shows you that He is the Father of what is right, you will respond, just like Paul (who also thought he was doing what God wanted, when he wasn’t). You are passionate, and that is good. You truly be a force for the Kingdom of God once you rid yourself of you, and fill yourself with Him. It’s a hard thing to do, I know. I need to submit myself to Him regularly because sometimes I forget that it is all about Him; not about me. 🙂 I am praying that God will speak to you and you will have ears to hear and will respond.

Blessings!

P.S. Earlier you implied that I was wanting to kick you out of the church, but you misquoted me, as all I said what that what you were really looking for (based on your desires of what you think a church should be) was a Unitarian church. 1st and 2nd Corinthians do actually imply that those who claim to be part of the Way, but are involved in sexual morality should be thrown out of the church, but those are the words of St. Paul (wasn’t he considered the first Catholic pope?) You also stated that Pope Francis wouldn’t agree with me, but I checked out his position and he stands against gay marriage and abortion and even the ordination of women in high positions, so it sounds like he is just as conservative as me, and would agree more with me than with you. 🙂 Just sayin.
 
exactly how do you have to pay for it? Children to learn tolerance in order to function in a multi cultural society.
I apologize, but I had to jump in here. Teaching children tolerance does not cover only SSM. There is plenty, if not significantly more anti-tolerance with kids not on the autism spectrum. Sadly, they continued to get bullied because autism advocates do not have big coffers tha they can use to start a nationwide campaign. Sure, they have autism awareness month, but with SSM, it’s more like SSM 24/7, 365 days a year. And I would argue the autistic kids need the tolerance and acceptance more because they are truly disabilied.
 
I apologize, but I had to jump in here. Teaching children tolerance does not cover only SSM. There is plenty, if not significantly more anti-tolerance with kids not on the autism spectrum. Sadly, they continued to get bullied because autism advocates do not have big coffers tha they can use to start a nationwide campaign. Sure, they have autism awareness month, but with SSM, it’s more like SSM 24/7, 365 days a year. And I would argue the autistic kids need the tolerance and acceptance more because they are truly disabilied.
I work in a school system I have no idea where you are getting the notion that SSM is preached 24/7. Tolerance is preached in general! Anti bullying rules apply to all and not just gay students but all students. Everyone is is worthy of respect and dignity even if you disagree with them and that is what is taught in NJ Public Schools. It does cover homosexual students as it covers everyone! I am saddened that you believe tolerance and anti bullying should not apply to gay students. Considered how often they are the victim of being bullied and how at risk they are for depression etc, it saddens me to see someone say this.
 
Again, how does it harm you or anyone else if a man ejaculates into another man?
Because it spreads disease.:mad:

According to the Center for Disease Control…the spread of sexually transmitted disease within the gay communities has reached epidemic levels. Since bi-sexuals move between the straight and gay communities the spread of STD’s poses a threat to the public health of all of society. That, in itself, is HARMFUL.
 
That which is termed “barbaric” to some is also called “enlightened” to others. So how do you determine what is barbaric, and what is not? Should I simply say that whatever you say is right? No. Should I simply say that whatever* I *say is right? No. We go to God, since He is our starting point for what is right and what is wrong. You have skirted around what God wants because you aren’t really interested in what He has to say if it goes against your political correctness. (Again, I can provide you with a list of what He thinks about homosexuality from His own words, but I’m pretty sure you already know them, which is why you avoid them).

I believe that you truly want to do what is right, and once He shows you that He is the Father of what is right, you will respond, just like Paul (who also thought he was doing what God wanted, when he wasn’t). You are passionate, and that is good. You truly be a force for the Kingdom of God once you rid yourself of you, and fill yourself with Him. It’s a hard thing to do, I know. I need to submit myself to Him regularly because sometimes I forget that it is all about Him; not about me. 🙂 I am praying that God will speak to you and you will have ears to hear and will respond.

Blessings!

P.S. Earlier you implied that I was wanting to kick you out of the church, but you misquoted me, as all I said what that what you were really looking for (based on your desires of what you think a church should be) was a Unitarian church. 1st and 2nd Corinthians do actually imply that those who claim to be part of the Way, but are involved in sexual morality should be thrown out of the church, but those are the words of St. Paul (wasn’t he considered the first Catholic pope?) You also stated that Pope Francis wouldn’t agree with me, but I checked out his position and he stands against gay marriage and abortion and even the ordination of women in high positions, so it sounds like he is just as conservative as me, and would agree more with me than with you. 🙂 Just sayin.
Thank you of this post. It seems to come from a good place. I determine what is “good” vs “evil” by looking at the consequences of said actions and how they affect others. For example, beating up women for going outside alone negates them of their human right to travel freely. It imposes a heavy negative consequence that limits their potential and therefore I believe it is wrong. IF an actions has no negative consequences I usually see no issue with from a moral standpoint.
 
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