Rioting aftermath in Kenosha

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This riot was definitely a real expression of outrage from the community. It would be wise to not forget that.
No, I don’t think it was the ‘community’ that did the destruction to unrelated local businesses. His family pleaded for non-violent protests, not rioting.

This sort of response is akin to a child throwing a temper tantrum. The ‘community’ did not burn down their own housing and destroy black owned businesses.


 
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I don’t support violent protests, by the way. I just think it’s dangerous how we as a society are told to turn our heads away from what provoked them.
I really don’t think people turn their heads away from what caused them. In many cases people get why people are so upset, but quickly lose sympathy when they see these types of violent reactions. It’s these riots that actually erode what the original protests were about, because all people see if extremely violent thugs, attacking people and destroying their property. It’s like when staff who work on public transport strike due to supposed low pay. Many people understand the reasoning for the strike, but when they have numerous trains and subways late and/or cancelled because of it, they start to lose sympathy with it.
 
This sort of response is akin to a child throwing a temper tantrum.
70 year old man was beaten up trying to protect his business from looters. He is in the hospital with a broken jaw. Who is going to pay his medical bills and who will pay for the damage to his business and what the looters stole from his business? Why should this 70 year old man be beaten up and his business ransacked and looted for something two police officers did?
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is focused on a response while pretending that the horrible violence that provoked it isn’t even a factor.
To most people, it doesn’t make sense to react to a person’s death by destroying businesses and property that had absolutely nothing to do with the person, the people who caused his death, or anything else related to his death. Rioters don’t care that they don’t make sense to others, but those others are going to be heading to the polls and voting.

Also, how many times can we say yes, violence is horrible? Like I said, obviously there was a reason for what happened, whether a good or a bad reason. Police didn’t just drive up and shoot a guy 7 times out of the blue for no reason.
 
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A young woman said that she was destroying property and setting fires, because “they built it,” when responding to someone telling them that they were ruining other peoples buisnesses, that they placed their life savings into.
I’m pretty sure she didn’t build a darn thing. The fact that people who had the same skin colour as her built some of it (I doubt they built the business some local white family owns) doesn’t give her the right for mindless destruction.
I stand by what I said. Less police brutality = less rioting. It’s a pretty simple equation.
Nah, they’ll find another reason like, whites are generally just racist, own the country and hold blacks down, or something of that sort.
None of that is justification for shooting him in the back, much less seven times. If you don’t want protests to turn into riots, then don’t let arrests turn into murders.
People have been shot once or twice and continued on as if nothing happened. Perhaps the officers feared one bullet would not prevent him from getting a gun from his car and shooting him and his partner?
Why? Why did they shoot him that many times? That’s the evidence we don’t have. Without that evidence, we can assume all we want, but it doesn’t answer any questions. And it certainly isn’t a reason to riot and looting and destroy property not yours.
The cop shooting seemed to have a good view of Blake. Perhaps his first few shots didn’t prevent Blake from continuing doing whatever he was doing in the vehicle (and what the cops thought was a danger to them) so the officer continued to fire shots until Blake stopped. I mean, seven shots were fired and he’s still alive, so it goes to show just how many bullets it can sometimes take to kill a person. Also, the fact Blake is still alive could be (we don’t know yet) because the cop was firing shots in a way to try to immobilise him, without killing him.
By the way, another key difference is that unlike these cops, protesters are getting arrested.
A heck of a lot of them are not and a heck of a lot of those who are, then get bailed.
 
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None of that is justification for shooting him in the back, much less seven times. If you don’t want protests to turn into riots, then don’t let arrests turn into murders.
People have been shot once or twice and continued on as if nothing happened. Perhaps the officers feared one bullet would not prevent him from getting a gun from his car and shooting him and his partner?
Still does not justify the action. We can and we must expect better from those whom we entrust with the power to kill.

If the response one has to an unarmed black man getting shot by the cops seven times in front of his children is to ask what he did to deserve that, that persons really needs to stop insisting that all lives matter to him.
 
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He was violently resisting the police, was armed with knife and they had already used a taser on him with no effect and he was reaching into his vehicle while being ordered to stop and turn around. It sounds like the police did the right thing to me.
And you got all that from your viewing of the video? We can and we must expect better of those we entrust with the power to kill.
 
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He was violently resisting the police, was armed with knife and they had already used a taser on him with no effect and he was reaching into his vehicle while being ordered to stop and turn around. It sounds like the police did the right thing to me.
And you got all that from your viewing of the video? We can and we must expect better of those we entrust with the power to kill.
We can and must expect better of people when interacting with law enforcement.
Absolutely rubbish.
 
No, I can expect to be arrested, not shot in the back seven times.
That’s what would have happened had he not resisted. And this wasn’t just a “profiling” arrest. He had warrants out on him. One for sexual assault on a 15 year old.
There were kids in that car, BTW
 
To most people, it doesn’t make sense to react to a person’s death
People die every day, and most of their community and loved ones respond with grief and mourning. The people in Kenosha aren’t responding to an every-day death but to what appears to be an unjust killing.
Police didn’t just drive up and shoot a guy 7 times out of the blue for no reason.
Maybe not, but I’m skeptical that it was a valid one.
Nah, they’ll find another reason like, whites are generally just racist, own the country and hold blacks down, or something of that sort.
Can you name a whites-are-just-generally-racist protest that came out of the blue with no triggering event?
A heck of a lot of them are not and a heck of a lot of those who are, then get bailed.
How many have been arrested?
At least six were arrested that are on record.
  1. it is no coincidence that virtually all of these events happen under progressive Democrat control.
It’s a bit of a red herring and, frankly, I’m an Independent voter and don’t care. Democrats didn’t choose to shoot an unarmed man in the back seven times. A police officer did.
if you are holding the officer accountable without all the evidence, why not the boss who sets the culture and practice?
The Chief of Police, then. Excellent idea.
In many cases people get why people are so upset, but quickly lose sympathy when they see these types of violent reactions.
Then you can thank the press for focusing on the fires and looting. The peaceful majority are just to blasé in a world of if-it-bleeds-it-reads “journalism.”
That’s what would have happened had he not resisted.
No, resisting arrest, however fuzzily and self-servingly it may get defined, warrants back-up, not on-the-spot, state-sponsored execution.
The police were trying to arrest him. He violently resisted.
He struggled as they violently wrestled him to the ground. There is no evidence that their life was in danger when they shot him SEVEN (read that number again) times.
 
I see them as the same. It is just people behaving badly.

In one instance, they claim it is because of the game…in the other they claim it is over police brutality.
In both, it has nothing at all to do with anything more than ugly people finding an excuse to act out.

This type of behavior is going to continue as long as others are willing to excuse it.
 
Also, the fact Blake is still alive could be (we don’t know yet) because the cop was firing shots in a way to try to immobilise him, without killing him.
When a cop uses deadly force, he shoots to kill.

Cops do not shoot to immobilise. They aim for the biggest part of the body, the torso. Those are kill shots.
 
This type of behavior is going to continue as long as others are willing to excuse it.
And even if others don’t excuse this behavior, it will continue as long as the police brutality continues. The people will never accept police brutality as normal.
 
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