Sheriff Dupnik's criticism of political 'vitriol' resonates with public

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EmperorNapoleon said:
The DLC never called for “second amendment remedies.” By the way, how exactly do you “reload” a “site surveyor?” I also wasn’t aware that the object was refered to as a “bullseye”
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Or do you mean the suggestion that Schumer “put would a bullet between the president’s eyes” isn’t more inflammatory than “second amendment remedies”? Or that Kerry “could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone”?

Or the Florida Democrats suggesting that Rumsfeld be assassinated? washingtontimes.com/news/2004/apr/14/20040414-123947-2345r/

Hmmm…
 
estesbob said:
. There is no evidence whatsoever that there had been any increase in violence against public officials in the last several decades…
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And now you’re shifting the goal posts from violence to violence against public officials. You know very well that violence HAS increased. Campaign offices all over the country being attacked and vandalized even vandalizing the home of a politician.
 
estesbob said:
EmperorNapoleon;7449116:
I have. Violence against public officials has been almost nonexistent. There is no evidence whatsoever that there had been any increase in violence against public officials in the last several decades. There is also no evidence that the political rhetoric today is any worse than it has been any other time since our country was founded.-In fact it is arguable that political rhetoric is much more tame now than it used to be.
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For example, Kennedy was very popular, successful electorally, able to grab a lot of black voters, which was rare up to that time for a Democrat - in short, not politcally vitriolic times - and he was killed by a nut. Public personalities are always a target for nuts. consider John Lennon - no reason (sane reason, anyway) for his murder. As for the Tea Parties, those are no more dangerous than an “active adult” home-owners association meeting.
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EmperorNapoleon said:
And now you’re shifting the goal posts from violence to violence against public officials. You know very well that violence HAS increased. Campaign offices all over the country being attacked and vandalized even vandalizing the home of a politician.
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Not shifting the goalposts all. You, OTH are steadily retreating. We are talking about whether political rhetoric today leads to increased violence and there’s been no evidence of that. The fact that a few offices and few homes have been vandalizes are irelevant unless you can prove there has been an increase in this over the last several years and of course there’s absolutely no evidence that this is true. In fact the vandalism is so rare that every time it happens it makes national news.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
I doubt you can find any example of a leftwing politician going nearly as far.
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7 seconds later I find a nice quote (that I can’t put on this site) from Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa made about the Governor of Florida on October 23 2010. He advocated lining him up and having him shot.

Or liberal talk show host Mike Malloy describing in graphic detail how he would murder Matt Drudge.
 
Suudy said:
Scroll down to the comments.

Or do you mean the suggestion that Schumer “put would a bullet between the president’s eyes” isn’t more inflammatory than “second amendment remedies”? Or that Kerry “could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone”?

Or the Florida Democrats suggesting that Rumsfeld be assassinated? washingtontimes.com/news/2004/apr/14/20040414-123947-2345r/

Hmmm…
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NOT a Politician, but STILL Associated with the Democratic Left, is Spike Lee, who said some Years Ago Bush should be Shot with a “Big Gun.”🤷
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
And now you’re shifting the goal posts from violence to violence against public officials. You know very well that violence HAS increased. Campaign offices all over the country being attacked and vandalized even vandalizing the home of a politician.
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And most of it is originating from the left.
 
estesbob said:
Not shifting the goalposts all. You, OTH are steadily retreating. We are talking about whether political rhetoric today leads to increased violence and there’s been no evidence of that…
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There’s plenty of evidence. The dozens of acts of vandalism are evidence.
 
Domestic acts of violence carried out for political or social objectives is also known as “domestic terrorism.” And compared to the before the 70s it is way, way down.

In fact, since 9/11 because of the Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act we haven’t seen any large acts of violence in the US.

Here is a pretty good map of the large incidents. Note the map is of incidents in the 20th century. But note that the trend was downward. Excepting 9/11, it continued downward with small incidents caused by individuals (Wash DC shooter, etc.)

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  • 2729 were killed in racial conflicts
  • That would break down to 1963 lynchings and…
  • 766 killed in racially motivated riots, bombings, beatings, etc.
  • 622 were killed in labor disputes.
  • 300 (more or less) were killed as the Mexican Revolution intermittently spilled over the border – estimates run from 196 to 554. (Let this be a lesson to the isolationists among us: we can’t hide.).
  • 178 killed because of activity of a religious cult.
  • 171 white people were lynched, probably by vigilantes.
  • 381 people were killed in all other types of civil strife, such as bombings, presidential assassinations, prison riots, mysterious deaths in jail, antiwar or anti-abortion protests, etc.
users.rcn.com/mwhite28/usa-riot.htm
 
I am sorry that all we are hearing about is the Congresswoman’s condition - what about the other people who were wounded? Is she more important, is her life worth more somehow because she is a public servant? OK, so the shooter was crazy. And please, people, stop calling him a “kid,” he was a MAN, although a crazy man. And he targeted her first, but other innocent people were injured and hurt. Why does everything need to shut down in DC because of this? Did everything shut down because of Fort Hood? The idea that someone who was elected to serve is more important than the people she serves comes from the MM and the left.

The “little people” are just not as important as the elected elites.

I am sickened by this whole thing. absolutely sickened.

And trolls come out from under their bridges in threads like this…spot the troll…
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
There’s plenty of evidence. The dozens of acts of vandalism are evidence.
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You keep saying this evidence but you offer no evidence whatsoever. Dozens of acts of vandalism in a country of 400 million people is hardly evidence of anything. Again you’re offering a solution to a problem that does not exist.
 
gilliam said:
Domestic acts of violence carried out for political or social objectives is also known as “domestic terrorism.” And compared to the 60s it is way, way down…
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Yes, have a look at the most-wanted DTs here:

fbi.gov/wanted/dt

Nearly all left-wingers, execept maybe for the Puerto-Rican independence guys. In fact if you look at domestic incidents, the big offenders of late are just that: Earth Liberation Front and PR separatists.
 
…two clips on the shootings from last night’s Stewart and Colbert shows. They could have gone full demagogue on the right — they are, after all, liberal icons — but both refused to lay blame, whether out of simple decency (or “sanity”) or because, as media critics first and foremost, maybe even they can’t believe what they’ve seen over the past three days. Stewart makes a good point that occurred to me too over the weekend as a contributing factor to the “blame conservatives” narrative — namely, that it’s comforting to think rhetoric might have caused this because rhetoric is something under our individual control. That’s an undercurrent of 9/11 Truth too: If Bush blew up the towers, then the problem is solved once Bush is gone. But if it’s Al Qaeda, or a bug-eyed nut whose oddness extends only to strange theories about grammer until the day it takes a dark turn, oh boy. No control at all. Terrifying.
hotair.com/archives/2011/01/11/bill-clinton-political-differences-shouldnt-degenerate-into-demonization/
 
Suudy said:
Ummmmm, Alan Hevesi was just a private citizen?

Ummmmm, John Kerry was just a private citizen?
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So John Kerry ,the Democrat senator from Massachusetts ,is a private citizen that Karen Angle a failed senatorial candidate from Nevada speaks for the entire Tea Party???
 
gilliam said:
[INDENT… But if it’s … a bug-eyed nut whose oddness extends only to strange theories about grammer until the day it takes a dark turn, oh boy. No control at all. Terrifying.
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Or, maybe we re-think our ideas about the circumstances of committing our insane to mental hospitals?

You have only to visit the streets of Santa Monica, CA to realize how many lunatics are on the loose (most probably harmless - but is it really compassionate to let them have “freedom” to eat from the dumpsters?)
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gilliam said:
Jared Lee Loughner was a registered independent, didn’t vote in 2010 election

voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/house/jared-lee-loughner-was-a-regis.html?wprss=thefix

So much for the theory that this was politically motivated.
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This is the only thing on CAF that I have ever agreed with you on, gilliam. This was not political. The media on “both” sides of the “extreme views” have turned it into a “political situation.”

When all is said and done, more will be said than done.

If profilers are doing their job they find this was a case of stalking obsession. Nothing to do with politics whatsoever.🤷
 
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