Should men have their ears pierced?

[Catholic_Heart]

I have to admit that when I first began seeing men with pierced ears I was totally against the practice. Now, I don’t care…In fact, why not? Guess I’ve just gotten used to the idea. To me, it’s not worth fighting over.

 

[JW10631]

I really used to hate to see a man with a pierced ear. It started to become popular in the early 80s with MTV.

Now, it really doesn’t bother me. I need to work out my own salvation without worrying about what other people wear - or don’t wear.

I was considering getting an earring for Halloween, and maybe my 25th high school reunion. We are permitted to dress in costumes at work for Halloween and I would like to go as Mr. Clean. For the high school reunion I want to look like Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Other thna that I don’t wan’t to bother with an earring. I really don’t like jewelry and it took me months just to get used to my wedding band.

 

[fix]

Catholic Heart:

I have to admit that when I first began seeing men with pierced ears I was totally against the practice. Now, I don’t care…In fact, why not? Guess I’ve just gotten used to the idea. To me, it’s not worth fighting over.

No one is fighting. It is about a decline in the culture. First men wearing female adornments, then multiple piercing and tattooes.

 

[Catholic_Dude]

fix:

No one is fighting. It is about a decline in the culture. First men wearing female adornments, then multiple piercing and tattooes.

And whats next men shaving their legs?

 

[Piusx]

Catholic Dude:

And whats next men shaving their legs?

**Where have you been???

Men have been shaving not only their legs, but their whole body for years.
Their excuse is that it is for sports- gym, etc. It’s not really. It is more a sexual/social thing than sports.

Not a good enough reason for me. They actually shave every hair off their bodies…arms, legs, head, chest, back, private parts, etc.
Then they oil themselves down. Sick if you ask me.

Hey Catholic Dude, do you get news papers, magazines, watch TV, or leave your house at all???

You dont live in a nuke bunker do you?

Christ said that you have to have the innocence of a child to enter the kingdom.

If you are that innocent, you will get to heaven before anyone else on this site.
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[Catholic_Dude]

I know what your saying, I was getting at the trend that the definition of manhood has turned into nothing more than turning 18 years old as if thats the only factor.

Where have you been???

Men have been shaving not only their legs, but their whole body for years.

Their excuse is that it is for sports- gym, etc. It’s not really. It is more a sexual/social thing than sports.

Not a good enough reason for me. They actually shave every hair off their bodies…arms, legs, head, chest, back, private parts, etc.
In other words the Clinton years?

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Hey Catholic Dude, do you get news papers, magazines, watch TV, or leave your house at all???

You dont live in a nuke bunker do you?

**Christ said that you have to have the innocence of a child to enter the kingdom. **

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I dont get newspapers/magazines because there is nothing out there worth getting, they just trash the room, full of ads, lousy writing, etc. Plus the public library has it already.

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**If you are that innocent, you will get to heaven before anyone else on this site. **

Im no saint, unlike you…Arent you forgetting a “St.” at the front of your name?

Well I guess back to the previous post:

Originally Posted by fix
No one is fighting. It is about a decline in the culture. First men wearing female adornments, then multiple piercing and tattooes.

And Whats next men ordering small decaf vanilla lattes with chocolate shavings, a hint of hazlenut and a swirl of whippedcream?

 

[Binney]

Binney:

I just care for body adornments of any kind on men or women.I find it especially undersirable on men.

What I mean is…
I DON’T care for any body adornments on men or women.

 

[fix]

No one has given me a reference as to why some men have adopted a female adornment? It was foreign to this culture until several years ago. I just do not get it.

 

[Catholic_Dude]

fix:

No one has given me a reference as to why some men have adopted a female adornment? It was foreign to this culture until several years ago. I just do not get it.

It was fueled by MTV and a protestant from little rock.

 

[Piusx]

Catholic Dude:

I know what your saying, I was getting at the trend that the definition of manhood has turned into nothing more than turning 18 years old as if thats the only factor.

In other words the Clinton years?

I dont get newspapers/magazines because there is nothing out there worth getting, they just trash the room, full of ads, lousy writing, etc. Plus the public library has it already.

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Im no saint, unlike you…Arent you forgetting a “St.” at the front of your name? Thats right! You are talking to St Pius X.
Me am very holy. I make the pope look like a sinner.
LOL
18??? No wonder. **** I was only kidding you. I guess I have just seen more than you have. I have also thrown up more than you have too. LOL

Well I guess back to the previous post:

And Whats next men ordering small decaf vanilla lattes with chocolate shavings, a hint of hazlenut and a swirl of whippedcream?**

 

[Rand_Al_Thor]

fix:

In our Western culture earrings are traditionally a feminine characteristic. Why in these past few years do some men feel they need to aquire these female characteristics? Are we suddenly embracing other cultures in this one respect? If so, why?

it’s not feminine…some guys might do it for that reason, but most dont. trust me on this one- i am not feminine at all and neither are any of my friends that have earrings. by “our” western culture i assume you mean american, because celtic and germanic people in western europe wore earrings.

fix:

That Christ sported an earring.

no…i was just saying that it wouldnt surprise me. as in it’s not a big deal at all or some huge shock like you guys are all making it out to be. my uncle is a catholic priest and he has no problem with this at all. he thinks that it’s no big deal for me to have an earring. lighten up people.

 

[fix]

Rand Al'Thor:

it’s not feminine…some guys might do it for that reason, but most dont. trust me on this one- i am not feminine at all and neither are any of my friends that have earrings. by “our” western culture i assume you mean american, because celtic and germanic people in western europe wore earrings.

When did Europen men start wearing errings? Who introduced this fad into American culture.

no…i was just saying that it wouldnt surprise me. as in it’s not a big deal at all or some huge shock like you guys are all making it out to be. my uncle is a catholic priest and he has no problem with this at all. he thinks that it’s no big deal for me to have an earring. lighten up people.

I am not asserting it is sinful. I am saying it is absurd.

 

[john_doran]

fix:

No one has given me a reference as to why some men have adopted a female adornment? It was foreign to this culture until several years ago. I just do not get it.

wearing earrings - or any jewellery, for that matter - isn’t female in itself. it’s genderless. it so happens that, in our recent culture, the wearing of earrings became something done predominantly by women. but so what? before that men wore them, too. what difference does it make either way?

look. cultural practices come and go, and cultural change is just something that happens. generations from now, if it becomes commonplace for everyone to wear earrings, why will it matter, morally or otherwise, especially to those who have never known it to be different? maybe contemporary 22nd century clothing will involve wearing propeller beanies and garbage bags. who cares, really?

i mean, traditional scots garb is still the kilt. in north america we call it a dress, and it is worn almost exclusively by women. does that make it “absurd” for scotsmen to wear the kilt?

people who have strong negative reactions to this sort of stuff kind of freak me out. why do you care what other people do with or to their bodies? it’s about as useful as having a strong negative opinion about people who like foods you can’t stand (if, for instance, i thought it was “absurd” for people to eat tomatoes just because i hate tomatoes).

but, hey - whatever blows your hair back, i guess.

 

[fix]

john doran:

wearing earrings - or any jewellery, for that matter - isn’t female in itself. it’s genderless. it so happens that, in our recent culture, the wearing of earrings became something done predominantly by women. but so what? before that men wore them, too. what difference does it make either way?

That is not accurate. Are you arguing that men wearing errings is not a new trend and that it was not exclusively female until very recently? At one time people wore togas, does that mean it would not be unusual for one to start wearing one now in 2005 America? Why pretend like these things change quicly and often?

cultural practices come and go, and cultural change is just something that happens.

Yes, that is true.

generations from now, if it becomes commonplace for everyone to wear earrings, why will it matter, morally or otherwise, especially to those who have never known it to be different?

I have already stated it is not a moral issue. Do you think all change is neutral and should be embraced as good or neutral?

maybe contemporary 22nd century clothing will involve wearing propeller beanies and garbage bags. who cares, really?

Maybe we will all have multiple piercings, tatooes and implanted horns in our scalps. All is good?

i mean, traditional scots garb is still the kilt. in north america we call it a dress, and it is worn almost exclusively by women. does that make it “absurd” for scotsmen to wear the kilt?

It would make it absurd for some men in America to start walking around that way. What if some men decided to start wearing makeup and lipstick? Would that change be acceptable?

people who have strong negative reactions to this sort of stuff kind of freak me out.

People who accept everything uncritically freak me out.

 

[Rand_Al_Thor]

fix:

It would make it absurd for some men in America to start walking around that way. What if some men decided to start wearing makeup and lipstick? Would that change be acceptable?

actually some men do wear kilts in america…look at the irish and scottish bagpipe bands. if someone has scottish roots, should they not be allowed to embrace their ancestral dress? oh, wait, that would make them feminine, right?

fix:

People who accept everything uncritically freak me out.

everything? accepting earrings now means accepting everything? you are way to uptight. you act like because i have an earring i’m somehow condoning homosexuality and the decline of civilization. if a man stays home to raise his child while his wife works, does that make him feminine? according to your logic it would because it’s usually been the other way around in the history of western civilization.

 

[john_doran]

fix:

That is not accurate. Are you arguing that men wearing errings is not a new trend and that it was not exclusively female until very recently? At one time people wore togas, does that mean it would not be unusual for one to start wearing one now in 2005 America? Why pretend like these things change quicly and often?

yes, i am arguing that it is not a new trend, in the sense that men have worn earrings at other times and in other cultures.

but even if it was a new trend, so what? every cultural practice was at some point a new trend. does that mean every cultural practice we have ever had is “absurd”?

sure it would be unusual. but so what? if it was done long enough and imitated by enough people, it would no longer be unusual. what difference does it make? it was unusual for men not to wear hats at one point. now it is unusal for men to wear them. so what? it used to be unusual for women not to wear corsets. now the opposite is true. so what?

sure: cultural change typically occurs slowly. what’s your point?

fix:

I have already stated it is not a moral issue. Do you think all change is neutral and should be embraced as good or neutral?

no, i don’t. i think that good changes should be understood as good, and neutral ones as neutral. the wearing of earrings by men is neutral.

fix:

Maybe we will all have multiple piercings, tatooes and implanted horns in our scalps. All is good?

if that’s what people wanted, then sure. if you don’t want tattoos and piercings, then don’t get them. just like if you don’t enjoy eating hamburgers, then don’t. same goes for wearing the color red. or driving SUVs. or owning a dog. or whatever.

fix:

It would make it absurd for some men in America to start walking around that way.

sure, in the same way that it’s absurd for people to drink milk. or wear running shoes. or have short hair.

fix:

What if some men decided to start wearing makeup and lipstick? Would that change be acceptable?

sure. why wouldn’t it be acceptable? what do you think is unacceptable about it? other than it exhibits a preference that you don’t share.

fix:

People who accept everything uncritically freak me out.

well, at least we agree about something…

 

[fix]

Rand Al'Thor:

actually some men do wear kilts in america…look at the irish and scottish bagpipe bands. if someone has scottish roots, should they not be allowed to embrace their ancestral dress? oh, wait, that would make them feminine, right?

They have a cultural heritage that is directly related to wearing those items. What is the link to modern day men wearing female adornments?

everything? accepting earrings now means accepting everything? you are way to uptight.

Uptight? Are we back in the swinging 60s, man? Let all hang out, bro.

you act like because i have an earring i’m somehow condoning homosexuality and the decline of civilization.

That is your inference, not what I implied.

if a man stays home to raise his child while his wife works, does that make him feminine? according to your logic it would because it’s usually been the other way around in the history of western civilization.

Off topic.

 

[fix]

john doran:

yes, i am arguing that it is not a new trend, in the sense that men have worn earrings at other times and in other cultures.

They wore togas in other times. Is that a reason to reintroduce it? Earrings are a feminine adornment in this culture. Why was in introduced to men at this time?

but even if it was a new trend, so what? every cultural practice was at some point a new trend. does that mean every cultural practice we have ever had is “absurd”?

Nope. Every introduction should be evaluated. Much of it is absurd.

sure it would be unusual. but so what? if it was done long enough and imitated by enough people, it would no longer be unusual. what difference does it make?

There is a tendency to blur gender identity at this time.

it was unusual for men not to wear hats at one point. now it is unusal for men to wear them. so what? it used to be unusual for women not to wear corsets. now the opposite is true. so what?

Niether example is similar to men suddenly wearing female adornments.

no, i don’t. i think that good changes should be understood as good, and neutral ones as neutral. the wearing of earrings by men is neutral.

That is one opinion, but not an objective truth we all can agree on.

if that’s what people wanted, then sure. if you don’t want tattoos and piercings, then don’t get them. just like if you don’t enjoy eating hamburgers, then don’t. same goes for wearing the color red. or driving SUVs. or owning a dog. or whatever.

Not all are equal comparisons. look here for a start:

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sure. why wouldn’t it be acceptable? what do you think is unacceptable about it? other than it exhibits a preference that you don’t share.

It seems this attitude is one that accepts everything without any discernment?

 

[Catholic_Dude]

There is a big difference between kilts and earrings.
At first when a guy wore an earring it was a direct indicator to other men that he was available, it has since diminished in meaning, but not for the reasons that it doesnt mean what it once did, but because society as a whole has embraced such low standards. A kilt is a cultural heritage that is displayed as such, same with bagpipes. Only a scot should wear a kilt, and from what I have seen they are the only ones that do, and only during certain times. In some african countries both men and women wear earrings and face rings, at the same time they are usually the voodoo and satanic spirit/idol worshipping tribes. There is a direct connection between bodily mutilation and evil spirits.

In America it is way different, the europeans who came here were Christian and didnt do that kind of piercing stuff, only recently have people began to lose their American heritage.

 

[fix]

Catholic Dude:

There is a big difference between kilts and earrings.
At first when a guy wore an earring it was a direct indicator to other men that he was available, it has since diminished in meaning, but not for the reasons that it doesnt mean what it once did, but because society as a whole has embraced such low standards. A kilt is a cultural heritage that is displayed as such, same with bagpipes. Only a scot should wear a kilt, and from what I have seen they are the only ones that do, and only during certain times. In some african countries both men and women wear earrings and face rings, at the same time they are usually the voodoo and satanic spirit/idol worshipping tribes. There is a direct connection between bodily mutilation and evil spirits.

In America it is way different, the europeans who came here were Christian and didnt do that kind of piercing stuff, only recently have people began to lose their American heritage.

Right. Why the sudden embrace of female things by some men? We have the so-called metrosexuals. We have men wearing earrings. We have body mutilations called self expression. Every goofy fad is accepted. We are so many so easily seduced by pop culture?