St. Monica pray for us! Praying for our husbands....

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Hello everyone!!!
It’s been a long time! Hope you are all well.
I will be in on the fast for next Tuesday…
God bless
 
OK, I’m in for Tuesday. Heaven knows my marriage needs all the help it can get.

CARose
 
Count me in too! That’ll add another day to my attempts to fast on Fridays for my DH in Iraq…
 
We need a thread like this for husbands. I’m Catholic and pray every day for the conversion of my wife’s heart toward’s God’s Church. We also have an 8 month old boy and we haven’t really talked about raising him Catholic or not. I know it is an obligation on my part to raise him Catholic, but what if my wife won’t agree?
 
Wow it fills my heart with so much gladness to know I won’t be fasting alone next week and Lampo you are so welcome to join us…because it is for our MARRIAGES!!! I will know you are with us, and fasting is difficult to do…so I will also be praying for all of you to have strength of will.

God bless all of you today, and know that you have been prayed for.
 
Lampo w/ regards to your little baby boy!! awww!! I have a one yr old and we just go…he knows he is always welcome to participate but he doesn’t balk at all and has never said you better not teach her. He in fact is knowledge weak regarding doctrine of the church he was even raised in so I fill the void for both of us. I try to be a gentle guide for him but sometimes I’m too much (Holy Spirit even tells me so)…it has to be His timing, His way.

Actually the prep materials for Rs baptism were an epiphany for me b/c if my husband does come into the church for real, not just attending mass with us, it will be b/c he learns what R is learning for her sacraments.

As a wife, I want to encourage you to take the step of invitation…b/c wives want to be led spiritually…we have sooo much to do…it is nice when husband plays that role since he was meant to. It is burden lifted.
 
Bless God for letting me come here tonight.

I have been in such a spiritual mess all this week, with absolutely no one to turn to about my marriage – tried posting at another forum and my thread never got moderated – and then here I am, just browsing in a place I haven’t been to in months. I come across this thread and see how Jesus has answered my prayer of lonliness.

I am in my 30s, have 4 children, have been a Catholic all my life. I’ve been married for almost 13 years. My husband was baptized Catholic. I fell in love with a born again, but I was young…we married in the Church under the agreement that our children would be raised Catholic.

It turned out that when he married me, he had the intention of converting me, so we were at odds since day 1. I had no answers for him when he would ask me why I was Catholic…I would simply say, “Because I know it’s the One True Faith.” Then I’d scoop up my kids and head off to Mass alone.

He converted some years later when I gave him a pamplet by Paul Whitcomb called “The Bible Made a Catholic Out of Me.” He read it, then understood…but the full conversion occurred gradually over the next year…and then he was just confirmed about 1-2 years ago.

My husband is a good man. I am a blessed woman. We agree on many, many things. Don’t practice contraception, are open to life.

My problem is that I am more disciplined than he is – physically, emotionally, psychologically, spritually. I can suppress my “needs” to take care of my children, my family, etc. But our problem stems from his not wanting to self-disclipline himself when it comes to his “needs.”

I was never too clear about what was moral and immoral in the bedroom. A priest or two have said that whatever works is good. This may include pornographic thoughts to bring pleasure, and all other sorts of … varieties in the bedroom. We pretty much went with it, but regardless of all this, our love life had been humdrum and routine.

About 2 months ago, I got my first period after having my last child over a year go. I’ve been nursing, so my menstrual cycles had been suppressed. Well, it must be the hormones, or something, but my husband went nuts. He’d come home and grope and grab w/o concern for the children that the door was open, they could be listening, etc. Everyday. And he was vulgar. To my ears. In his desires. Wanting me to be a skank, when that’s not me at all. I can be a woman, but not a whore.

I suffered & put up with this, letting him know I wasn’t comfortable with all this. It was, like, there wasn’t purity in what we were doing. Perversion had entered the bedroom. He ignored me.

After a month, he apologized and understood that there needed to be a balance in our love…and I thought all that was over and done with…until it started up again this month.

Now, I’ve pretty much put my foot down because, in the past, I’ve had to induce thoughts in my mind to let him believe he pleased me (to please his ego)…just so we could finish. I don’t want those impure thoughts in my mind anymore…it’s offensive to God, I don’t believe that it’s okay to think of pornographically simply because you’re in the act with your husband, it’s impure…I don’t believe in things when it doesn’t cummulate in intercourse.

So, I’m being shunned right now, and I’ve been lonely.

Other caveats: he’s overweight, having a hard time at work, trying to finish his degree, has a nasty temper, isn’t disciplined about taking care of himself or his home or his children, curses frequently…which can explain why he just wants to mess around all the time…to feel fulfilled in some aspect of his life.

But, don’t get me wrong…all these things that seem like complaints, they’re logical thoughts. Trying to reason why he’s behaving like this. I know this man, we go to Mass every Sunday, I love him dearly, take him for all that he is (as I have done my part in hurting Christ) – we’ve been working on our faults, but this impurity in the marriage. It’s a big problem for my soul.

It’s like Jesus is telling me one thing, and the devil is telling my husband another and we’re fighting over this. He twists everything I say about purity, waiting for the right time (when the kids are asleep).

I just needed to get this out. I would like advice & I’ve found some literature that pretty much confirms all that I’ve felt in my soul. Very orthodox teachings from the Church. If anyone wants to PM me with suggestions, I’d appreciate it, as I’m also conflicted about being the good, submissive wife and being the one who will help my husband get to heaven.

I just want to say I’m so glad I found this thread…and that I had not thought about St. Monica.

Curiously, my husband loves St. Augustine and all the Fathers of the Church. We named my last child after Athanasius. 🙂

God bless you all.

Sincerely,
Bea

P.S. I haven’t read all the thread…I will do so and respond in time. Please feel free to email me.
 
It’s good to see the forums back. I just wanted everyone to know that my husband has agreed to go to a Retrouvaille (spelling?) weekend coming up in January. Our marriage really needs this and I ask for your prayers from now until that weekend. Thanks.👍
 
Ok, someone tell me about the fast! I am in! However, I am curious about what we are trying to accomplish. I understand about suffering and sacrifice in order to remind us of Christ, but I have never really understood it in terms of prayer request. Can someone help me?

Also, mnmom - I will keep you in my prayers! My hhusband has agreed to retrouvaille as well and we are going this month!
 
I could have been a craddle Catholic if the husbands of my grandmother and mother had been more open to religion.
 
I want to tell you all that the St. Monica prayer works.

I cannot get into details right now – hubby is going to need the computer for his work – but I will post more very, very soon.

We have an amazing conversation today where I sincerely, sincerely felt like I was being listened to…my concerns, my fears, my feelings for My God were heard. I felt God opened my husband’s heart, and that I found the grace to avoid using some words that were inflammatory and would just ruin the discussion.

In the end, my husband just let me talk…and he looked into my eyes and understood that the only word I want to hear is “wife”…not lover, or the imaginings of some other personality in the bedroom.

Because wives can make love to their husbands the way God intended.

Anyway…more on the St. Monica prayer. It is very powerful.

Say it and believe you are talking to her and that she is just like you with what you are suffering and what she has suffered. You have to kneel. Feel in your heart that you would do anything for God to make this right…and it requires you to be on your knees.

Much love…
 
I wanted to post more abt the fast but didn’t want to seem insensitive to our sister Vera. So Vera I am actually wondering if you wouldn’t mind re-posting that prayer to St. Monica and bless you for being so open to hear the Holy Spirit!! Oh and bless your husband too b/c he’s been terribly afflicted by temptation…hmm. That is a hard situation I know but I am glad to hear it may be getting better for both of you.

To focus on the fast. I don’t have any specifics regarding the fast except that it would be normal minimal intake for brkfst and no snacks, limited water and no meals until dinner (small dinner). I have done this a couple of times in the past couple of months and see some improvements. I have done it alone however and thought joined together we could storm the throne with our requests. So it should be a contemplative day of prayer, reading or meditation.

Now I am an engineer with a one year old, so free time is not easy for me to come by. It could be that you pray for your spouse several times throughout the day. Most importantly I think it is important to just pray for our marriages- that they would be living things as well, reflecting God’s love in the world. I have been pretty deep lately…not sure what all the Holy Spirit is trying to teach me but I need some spiritual company. I have shared some thoughts earlier last week, if anyone cares to review.

Still planning on 9/19 that is correct. No report necessary but would like any thoughts especially how to make it more meaningful. Deprivation is hard, especially given the tempations during the day. One might plan on a time to read the reading for the day online. I will be going to mass at noon. Hopefully focusing on Jesus and his ability to ‘bear all’ will enlighten each of us in our own way as to how we can incorporate that into our lives.

I know this may sound goofy to some but when my husband came home from this last job…he was a different man. Some things are deeply ingrained but he was different. In my prayer time God told me that day would be the beginning of a new marriage for us…which I trust. Does that mean it is perfect?? Hardly. Has my husband just had this epiphany - NO!! But there are subtleties that I can’t describe that show me in a way God’s presence to me in him…I know it is goofy. So it has dawned on me after almost a week…my prayers are hopefully working on my heart as well…seeking clarity, strength, and unity of heart with him. I have to just continue this journey and it is with him…I can’t get out of that!! Just today we had a tiff this morning on the way to mass no less!! In our ‘discussion’ he said he’d been gone for 40days!!! Oh my gosh you could have knocked me over with a feather!! Really!! God is the ultimate man, he takes my breath away.
 
Struggle,

I am glad you asked that b/c I am keeping a list so that I can pray for everyone who is participating. I have it in my daytimer.

So I have yourself, me, CARose, tammccrackine, jules11, spalady, VeraIcona, and I am pretty sure Lampo is also.

I had my own slipup today…man I can be so sensitive some days. So tomorrow will be good for me, whew! I need a day to get rid of that need to be heard!!

And the invitation is open to anyone browsing whose ears perk up at the idea of a fast and participating with us…even if you are not sure you can make it. You will…just keep busy and pray. I know you may be reading and wonder can I join?? YES!! But you say “I don’t know anyone”. That’s okay we don’t know each other either!! But we want you to be with us if you hope to benefit, especially if you are struggling and just can’t bring yourself to say yet. You may be like me and very unfamiliar w/ all of this posting stuff and insecure abt the whole thread deal. That’s okay too…you can still join us. I am confident there will be another handful of would-be saints with us.

You don’t have to let us know who you are, but we welcome knowing who will be praying with us so we can all lift up our marriages to the Lord together. What would you do if all of your kids (or any group of little ones) got together and came at you with one voice for healing of their anything??? **You sure couldn’t ignore it!! ** How can our heavenly Father?? We also need to pray for our own strength and restoration. It’s a battle, and we need to give up a little to gain a ton.

K, brothers and sisters, then on to tomorrow’s fast. For the strengthening and healing of our marriages and the softening of our spouses’ hearts to join us in unity in our faith. For those of us who can’t bring themselves to vocalize the hurt or pain, we understand. For those who haven’t found us yet, that they will follow the Holy Spirit to us. That we would all see God’s presence in the small daily matters of our lives and be reassured that He is with us. As David put it, “You come to me with sword and spear and javeline. But I come to you in the name of the Lord of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel.” Maybe we should also offer this for our Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI :eek: Talk about a bad week!! shees!!

God bless each of you and have a wonderful Tuesday!!
 
I went to morning mass this morning and included all of you in my prayers! I wish each of us much grace during our fast today! So far, so good for me! (But it is only 8 am!)
 
Hey all,

I just found this thread - won’t fast with you today because I am pregnant, but I will begin praying.

I have read so many stories similar to mine.

God love my husband! And I do too. He is probably best described spiritually as an agnostic. The difference is that he does believe in God, but that is all he will “commit” to. I wonder about the circumstances surrounding our meeting and subsequent dating/engagement/marriage.

We had many role models of working inter-faith marriages.
They were all very influential on my decision to marry DH. I thought that if my parents could do it, and raise 4 such wonderful kids, then so could I (only to have them divorce less than 2 years later - arrrggghhh!!!).

I tried to convert DH to Christianity before marriage - he firmly let me know that it wasn’t happenin’. I told him later that I had always envisioned my husband attending church with me and my kids. He said, “Good, because I always thought I would go to church with my kids.” Woohoo!

So, he started attending church with me just before my first baby was born. He has been a fairly regular attendee, and he participates in all the parts he agrees with - and says the Our Father.

As with many of you on the list, the biggest difficulty in our marriage revolves around sex!! Just before our marriage, I was still Catholic, but had allowed myself to fall into some pretty serious misunderstandings regarding Catholic teaching. These were widely varied, but it relates here to contraception. I basically thought I could make up my own rules, if I had good rationale!! Ha!! In short, I was on “the pill” for years before I understood that one way in which it works is as an abortifacient. When I really understood this, I began to read up on church teaching, and listening to some of C. West’s tapes on the Theology of the Body.

I finally stopped taking artificial contraception, and looked to NFP. That became a problem for us, as DH was all about having more kids and I was not ready!! So, when he was “interested”, and I was fertile, it came down to, “Do I risk a new pregnancy, or leave DH ‘hanging’?” He would always respond either that he hoped I would get pregnant, or that we didn’t have to have intercourse to satisfy, but my thoughts on that were changing, too, and he just thought that was “sad”.

We’ve reached a silent understanding regarding NFP, and are living with it pretty well, I think. I am expecting baby #3, after all! But I think we’ve grown closer as a couple, not using contraception., and I pray there is more understanding on both sides.

There is more to the story, of course. I never realized the impact the non-belief of my husband could have on my kids. Pray for them!!

I feel that my husband’s conversion will have to be a Saul-Paul kind of thing - you know, he’s temporarily blinded on the way home from work!! But I also know that God will answer a prayer that is according to his will, and that my husband’s conversion is definitely according to his will! I just have to trust that it will happen, and meanwhile be a shining example (whoa…), and for the most part keep my mouth shut (uh, OK…).

And the rest of the time, I’m picking up this prayer to St. Monica!

Thanks everyone - I’m praying for all of you…some in particular based on your stories that really resonated… but all of you as sisters on the same road!
 
Heavenly Father,

grant to us this day the strength to endure and overcome those things that would keep us from being all we can be to our spouses. Grant to each them a spirit of understanding and openness to hear the same call you have for all of mankind.

Amen!!
 
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