St Veronica & the Falls Of Jesus Removed From Way of Sorrows

[Cor_Jesu]

Didn’t happen. It was just five. That’s 1,2,3,4,5. My 2 year-old nephew can manage the number, I assume the difficulties won’t be insurmountable for others.

Why not add 5 more? Or 25, or 50?
Our Lady of Fatima asked us to pray one-third of the rosary every day, if possible. So with the new “luminous” mysteries (and it sure is mysterious why he felt the need to add them), how many decades do we pray to amount to one-third of the rosary? It used to be a simple five decades…but now it’s, let’s see, about 6.66 decades. I’m terrrible with math. (Not that I’m trying to imply anything…but where have I seen that number before? Anyway, back to topic…) In light of every thing he did during his pontificate, it’s suprising John Paul the Great did not write 20 new psalms.

 

[JKirkLVNV]

As should you, gamer.

You still haven’t answered the question, St. Isidore. That was the fifth time of asking.

 

[Cor_Jesu]

As I said, “Cor” Jesu , we’ll let history and the Church decide. I’m betting that John Paul will be elevated to the honors of the altar and remembered as “the Great” long after our great-grandchildren have lost track of our names.

Elevated to the honors of the altar! If that’s the case, Papa B had better release that long awaited Motu Proprio (the one we don’t really need in the first place) QUICK! Not to nitpick but in your case, Vegas, it would be elevated to the honors of the table and don’t forget most of them don’t contain relics. The Novus Ordo tables, that is.

 

[Cor_Jesu]

You still haven’t answered the question, St. Isidore. That was the fifth time of asking.

Get a clue, Vegas. He obviously doesn’t care to answer and it’s none of your business. I believe our gracious mod Jean Anthony already had to close a previous thread because you were asking this question.

 

[Balance]

I have no doubt that personally he was a very holy man, but he did much that has harmed tradition by way of promoting novelty and encouraging rapid, unrestrained change.

Again, you have the right to disagree with the John Paul II, but when you throw a comment like this out there, you’re not actually doing that, you’re simply slandering him, or anyone else that you make such a comment about.

And that. Is. Unacceptable.

Do you get it?

 

[JKirkLVNV]

Why not add 5 more? Or 25, or 50?
Our Lady of Fatima asked us to pray one-third of the rosary every day, if possible. So with the new “luminous” mysteries (and it sure is mysterious why he felt the need to add them), how many decades do we pray to amount to one-third of the rosary? It used to be a simple five decades…but now it’s, let’s see, about 6.66 decades. I’m terrrible with math. (Not that I’m trying to imply anything…but where have I seen that number before? Anyway, back to topic…) In light of every thing he did during his pontificate, it’s suprising John Paul the Great did not write 20 new psalms.

So don’t pray the luminous mysteries, if it’s too hard for you mathematically! He never made it a requirement. But, “Cor” Jesu , do you honestly think the Blessed Mother is upset because when we’re praying Her rosary, we’re thinking about more mysteries from the New Testament, mysteries that point to redemption in Her Son? Do you think She complained to Jesus about that?

 

[Caesar]

As I said, “Cor” Jesu , we’ll let history and the Church decide. I’m betting that John Paul will be elevated to the honors of the altar and remembered as “the Great” long after our great-grandchildren have lost track of our names.

I’ll echo your “subjective opinion” catchphrase here

Being canonized is one thing (merely declaring that he is in Heaven, which I do not doubt because of his personal holiness and devotion), but being called Great is another. Only three Popes have been given such a title: one defended the Primacy of Peter from enemies to the Papacy in the East and the West, engaged in extensive missionary work, and was essential in the growth of religious life; another strengthened the Church through organic Liturgical and adminstrative reforms (while staying true to ancient tradition), codified the Liturgical chant that bears his name, and led an extremely holy and devout life; the other halted the ravaging hordes of Attila the Hun, saving Rome and the whole of western civilization from sure destruction.

 

[JKirkLVNV]

Get a clue, Vegas. He obviously doesn’t care to answer and it’s none of your business. I believe our gracious mod Jean Anthony already had to close a previous thread because you were asking this question.

Interesting opinion. But I think you’ll find I don’t need your consent to continue a line of questioning. AND you’ve no clue why the good Jean did what she did.

 

[St_Isidore]

Why not add 5 more? Or 25, or 50?
Our Lady of Fatima asked us to pray one-third of the rosary every day, if possible. So with the new “luminous” mysteries (and it sure is mysterious why he felt the need to add them), how many decades do we pray to amount to one-third of the rosary? It used to be a simple five decades…but now it’s, let’s see, about 6.66 decades. I’m terrrible with math. (Not that I’m trying to imply anything…but where have I seen that number before? Anyway, back to topic…) In light of every thing he did during his pontificate, it’s suprising John Paul the Great did not write 20 new psalms.

Your math is correct. I did not know this and now I am shocked! I am not implying anything either but one third of twenty is 6.66!!! You will find shortly the desert man giving some spin as to how JP2 math defies all other mathematics. Is that a mirage or what?

 

[Cor_Jesu]

So don’t pray the luminous mysteries, if it’s too hard for you mathematically! He never made it a requirement. But, “Cor” Jesu , do you honestly think the Blessed Mother is upset because when we’re praying Her rosary, we’re thinking about more mysteries from the New Testament, mysteries that point to redemption in Her Son? Do you think She complained to Jesus about that?

I don’t pray them, and you’re right, they aren’t a requirement. Of course not even John Paul II could really change Our Blessed Mother’s perfect rosary. And she’s probably too busy complaining to Her Son that Russia STILL has yet to be consecrated to Her Immaculate Heart. I’m sure She can even now barely restrain His arm from inflicting great disaster upon earth.

 

[JKirkLVNV]

Elevated to the honors of the altar! If that’s the case, Papa B had better release that long awaited Motu Proprio (the one we don’t really need in the first place) QUICK! Not to nitpick but in your case, Vegas, it would be elevated to the honors of the table and don’t forget most of them don’t contain relics. The Novus Ordo tables, that is.

Ah, you’re so feisty when you’re wrong. Mine is a vast altar of marble, with a relic of St. Lucy. Also, a straw man argument. You do skip around, “Cor” Jesu.

 

[Cor_Jesu]

I’ll echo your “subjective opinion” catchphrase here

Being canonized is one thing (merely declaring that he is in Heaven, which I do not doubt because of his personal holiness and devotion), but being called Great is another. Only three Popes have been given such a title: one defended the Primacy of Peter from enemies to the Papacy in the East and the West, engaged in extensive missionary work, and was essential in the growth of religious life; another strengthened the Church through organic Liturgical and adminstrative reforms (while staying true to ancient tradition), codified the Liturgical chant that bears his name, and led an extremely holy and devout life; the other halted the ravaging hordes of Attila the Hun, saving Rome and the whole of western civilization from sure destruction.

If by Great we mean “Great Disaster” or something similar I agree it would be quite appropriate.

 

[Caesar]

I don’t pray them, and you’re right, they aren’t a requirement. Of course not even John Paul II could really change Our Blessed Mother’s perfect rosary. And she’s probably too busy complaining to Her Son that Russia STILL has yet to be consecrated to Her Immaculate Heart. I’m sure She can even now barely restrain His arm from inflicting great disaster upon earth.

 

[JKirkLVNV]

I’ll echo your “subjective opinion” catchphrase here

Being canonized is one thing (merely declaring that he is in Heaven, which I do not doubt because of his personal holiness and devotion), but being called Great is another. Only three Popes have been given such a title: one defended the Primacy of Peter from enemies to the Papacy in the East and the West, engaged in extensive missionary work, and was essential in the growth of religious life; another strengthened the Church through organic Liturgical and adminstrative reforms (while staying true to ancient tradition), codified the Liturgical chant that bears his name, and led an extremely holy and devout life; the other halted the ravaging hordes of Attila the Hun, saving Rome and the whole of western civilization from sure destruction.

But I admit it’s subjective opinion, Caesar! Still, if you were to bet (and I’m not encouraging that in one who may someday be a priest!), what would you wager? He’s already called the Great by several rather infulential people, including his successor.

 

[Cor_Jesu]

Ah, you’re so feisty when you’re wrong. Mine is a vast altar of marble, with a relic of St. Lucy. Also, a straw man argument. You do skip around, “Cor” Jesu.

I’m glad to see the Novus Ordo establishment has allowed some semblance of tradition to remain in some places. Like filling new wineskins with old wine, huh?

 

[Cor_Jesu]

http://www.fisheaters.com/warningsaltar2.jpg

Thanks for posting that beautiful pic. And to think, SOME people are going around claiming the Novus Ordo has no artistic merit!

 

[JKirkLVNV]

Your math is correct. I did not know this and now I am shocked! I am not implying anything either but one third of twenty is 6.66!!! You will find shortly the desert man giving some spin as to how JP2 math defies all other mathematics. Is that a mirage or what?

Honestly, you’re like Protestants I’ve known that freak out if their bill at Dunkin Donuts comes to $6.66.

And still NO answer to a perfectly legitimate question, one that any devout Catholic should be pleased to answer.

 

[JKirkLVNV]

I’m glad to see the Novus Ordo establishment has allowed some semblance of tradition to remain in some places. Like filling new wineskins with old wine, huh?

Can’t stick to a topic terribly well yourself, for someone who likes to admonish others to do so.

 

[Balance]

I don’t pray them, and you’re right, they aren’t a requirement. Of course not even John Paul II could really change Our Blessed Mother’s perfect rosary. And she’s probably too busy complaining to Her Son that Russia STILL has yet to be consecrated to Her Immaculate Heart. I’m sure She can even now barely restrain His arm from inflicting great disaster upon earth.

“Our blessed mother’s perfect rosary”?

That makes it sound like she handed it down on a stone tablet. As you know, that’s not how the Rosary came to us, is it?

Like the Way of the Cross, it developed over time.

 

[Cor_Jesu]

He’s already called the Great by several rather infulential people, including his successor.

Not only does his successor think so (and he would know, he was on Pius XII’s heresy blacklist), but there’s a rumor such influential people as Bob Dylan agree. And if influential people think so, Vegas, they must be onto something.