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Karianne
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I agree…I’m going to starbucks for my coffee and copy of the post.
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PS…Willy has yet to check in. Maybe I’ll see him there.
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PS…Willy has yet to check in. Maybe I’ll see him there.
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patg
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And a delicious one too!
And I’ll pay Starbucks what they charge for it. Even Jesus said give to Caesar what is Caesar’s - I doubt everything Caesar did with the money was in line with catholic teaching.
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setter
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If you have a free conscience to do so, then by all means contribute to the coffer of a for profit entity that funnels a portion of their profits to support social engineering initiatives that are anti-gospel.
BTW – Starbucks is not levying a compulsory tax of which non-payment will result in undo hardship.
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patg
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Well I just reread the whole thread again and since again I don’t see a shred of concrete evidence for the supposed “evil” in the Starbucks corporation, I will ignore your comments and brew another pot. Oh sure there are implications and a lot of “possiblies” and a quote by some non-Starbucks gay person on a coffee cup - give me a break! Their corporate mission statement about treating every person with dignity sounds pretty pro-gospel to me. Please, come up with something real or stop this ranting. …I’m toasting you with a fine Latte…
There’s a lot more concrete evidence that your contributions to the church have supported anti-gospel people and activity than there is here.
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patg
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I’m sure Jesus meant that supporting immorality is OK if there is some personal hardship involved…
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AdvanceAlways
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This happens to be one of the most bizarre threads I have ever read. To all you boycotters, you are hypocrites. How many Chinese products have you bought this week? The Chinese opress the Church. How many times have you shopped in a Target, Walmart, Kmart, 7-11, etc?! This kid has been misguided by your posts Karin. Let him work there, and have influence rathern than be lazy. Your “no starbucks” attitude is just immature.
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Mom_of_5
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We have a marvelous coffee maker that grinds the coffee beans and makes the coffee to perfection. We buy the beans in the (French roast) in the 2.5 lb bag ,yes, STARBUCKS!! We buy it from Costco. They have lots of great stuff made everywhere in the world. We even bought our coffee maker there. No one has touched on Costco yet, are they o.k. to buy from and work for? Just curious. The worst thing about Starbucks is that it is a bit spendy and just too good to take out of the budget!! Problems, problems!!
I agree with the poster before me, how silly are we “Catholics” anyway???
Love and peace,
Mom of 5
I agree with the poster before me, how silly are we “Catholics” anyway???
Love and peace,
Mom of 5
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Karin
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Well I will remeber your advice the next time someone asks a question
…he asked a specific question…does Starbucks support any non-catholic or christian things…I replied to that specific question.I am nuetral in regards to where this kid works…it is his choice and he made up his mind even before I posted my reply (did you bother to read the WHOLE thread?).
As to my no starbucks attitude …
I never stated no starbucks my dear…I think you need to learn how to read:thumbsup: …what I did was answer this persons question HONESTLY
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Inquiring_Mind
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Boycotting, to me, is absolutely silly. I agree with whoever it was that said to write letters and explain your disdain for the actions. Even though your boycotting probably won’t make them so much as raise an eyebrow, if what you wanted to happen actually did, it would do much more damage than good.
Back when France stated that they wouldn’t be joining our efforts at war (a decision they now don’t regret, and that many people are finally realizing was a good one) everyone thought it would be smart to boycott everything that sounded French. Remember freedome fries?
Another brand under attack was Yoplait Yogurt. While Yoplait is actually the leading branch of U.S. yogurt, the name sounds french, so people thought they should boycott it. General Mills, the father of Yoplait, is also the father of over 100 U.S. brands.
In boycotting Yoplait (had the boycott had any effect, which none these days actually do) then it would have put Americans out of work, as well as had American children going hungry and not getting the things they needed.
Just something I was thinking about…
Back when France stated that they wouldn’t be joining our efforts at war (a decision they now don’t regret, and that many people are finally realizing was a good one) everyone thought it would be smart to boycott everything that sounded French. Remember freedome fries?
Another brand under attack was Yoplait Yogurt. While Yoplait is actually the leading branch of U.S. yogurt, the name sounds french, so people thought they should boycott it. General Mills, the father of Yoplait, is also the father of over 100 U.S. brands.
In boycotting Yoplait (had the boycott had any effect, which none these days actually do) then it would have put Americans out of work, as well as had American children going hungry and not getting the things they needed.
Just something I was thinking about…
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setitstraight
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Karin, you certainly did not present your first two posts as an indication that you are neutral regarding where Willy works.he asked a specific question…does Starbucks support any non-catholic or christian things…I replied to that specific question.
I am nuetral in regards to where this kid works…I think you need to learn how to read:thumbsup: …what I did was answer this persons question HONESTLY
This is the definition of neutral: ‘not aligned with or supporting any side or position in a controversy’
The following statements are from your first two posts. Any rational person reading them, will clearly see that you were not writing from a neutral position. Just because you didn’t actually tell Willy not to work at Starbucks, does not mean your neutral. Please read on…
In the first post, not only are you asking a rhetorical question, but you are suggesting that there is a moral, if not religious issue regarding someone allowing their children to work at Starbucks.
You wrote:
“they support abortion and homosexuality.
do you really want your kids working there and supporting them with their prescense?”
Likewise for your second post, when you choose to use cap locks, you are trying to aggressively get a point across to the reader, again, not something that is used when someone is remaining neutral.
Secondly, you make a clear statement in the first sentence. You suggest that the choice that the respondent has made goes against their faith and is an ’ issue’ or at the very least, you believe that it is an issue for them…
You wrote:
“I guess you have no issues with suporting companies that teach and practice things that go against your faith…that is your issue not mine…I was replying to the OP…Starbucks supports ABORTIONS and GAY’s”
Note the large caps for abortion and Gay. It really draws the reader toward those words, the reader can imagine that if you were speaking you would be yelling those words out.
You say that you are neutral as to where Willy works, but your first two posts indicate that you are not neutral.
Simple example - ’ Hey Joe, your thinking of getting a job at 123 Mart and you want to know if they have beliefs contrary to your faith?
Neutral reply - They admit that they get many of their products from sweat shops using slave labourer’s in third world countries.
Non-neutral - They admit that they get many of their products from sweat shops using SLAVE LABOURERS in third world countries. I guess some people don’t have a problem working for a company whose actions are contrary to their faith, well that’s their issue, not mine…do some people really want to support that company with their presence?
Karin - how could I claim that the second post is neutral? Well, I guess I never told my friend Joe not work at 123 Mart, so thats neutral?
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Lion
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A few of us tried to state this pages ago and no one (really) responded.(or least to the beginning of your response) Futile! And to each their own… I still do not like the taste of Starbuck’s coffee as opposed to other coffee companies.
Btw, having had a Columbian friend whose family owned a coffee plantation, did you know that most of the pickers (Juan Valdez included) are considered/treated almost like slaves? So no coffee is “safe”.
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Karin
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I stand my posts…it was a neutral reply…they support homossexuals and abortions…plain and simple…!
did you miss the part where both my 1st and 2nd post where directed to another poster …they where in response to their posts
Regardless…the OP had made up his mind already in his first post that id they where doing anything against the faith that he would not work their…so why not jump all over him
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Karianne
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I saw a 20/20 report on Costco and apparently they pay above the minimum wage and make a very nice profit.
I think that the owner is Canadian and he also makes sure that his employees have a very equitable health care plan.
He said that he offers fewer products to his customers so he can keep his overhead costs down.
He only pays himself a reasonable percentage of the profits.
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Karianne
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Willy has left the studio, I’m afraid. I hope that he gets a job somewhere.
He’ll be better off working.
Folks on the internet can do profound damage to others especially when we’re dealing with young people.
I wish that more people would realize this.
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Karin
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being a hypocrite to ones faith also causes damage
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Karin
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so gald that I dont fall into this category
this kid was given a direct repsonse to his direct question…
I would be a hypocrite if I stated that starbucks supports these things and that is ok with the church…like some of our fellow posters have done.
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Lorik
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Stating facts does not make a person not neutral.
Besides, who cares? I’m not neutral, does that make me evil or naive? If you think so, oh well I’m not losing any sleep over it.
This is silly, it stopped being a calm disscussion and turned into argument many posts ago.
Besides, who cares? I’m not neutral, does that make me evil or naive? If you think so, oh well I’m not losing any sleep over it.
This is silly, it stopped being a calm disscussion and turned into argument many posts ago.
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Lion
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I don’t know where you live, but pretty much any Canadian company over 50 employees will offer health care benefits… it is almost a given there. What is minimum wage where you live? I am well above minimum, but still have a hard time making ends meet at times … :banghead:
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Lion
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great point… our (sometimes) lack of charity
do you think it is really our lack of charity or simply a product of the media (post and run to the next thread). BTW, i appreciate the posts that you make
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Karin
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the funny things is here in the US most companies offer health care coverage too…this is nothing special about Canada…
as to minimum wage here in the state of NJ it is $7.15/hour
that is a JOKE! But then most places even McDonalds pay more than minimum wage- Status