Steve Bannon goes after Pope Francis

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Read the article and know 100% that Steve Bannon will not be allowed to do anymore than God allows him to.
 
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Where was this urgency in 2002 when the Boston scandal broke?

I agree it is a crisis the needs to be dealt with, but it didn’t happen overnight, it will not change overnight and it is unfair to Pope Francis to expect it to.
 
God gives free will. He does not step in and stop bad things from happening.
 
CilladeRoma said:
Where was this urgency in 2002 when the Boston scandal broke?
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Yes, I’m sure we can agree that was a case study in how not to effectively manage a crisis. Urgency was completely lacking and its absence was one of several inadequate features of the Church’s overall response - that mistake can’t be repeated.

The damage these crises and their ongoing mishandling have done to the Church, to lives, to souls, is almost incalculable - can’t you see the immediate & inevitable downstream effects of this?

How can lack of prior urgency or effective response validate the same in this instance?
 
Pope Francis has done more than any predecessor.
Has he done it perfectly? Not always.
Will more mistakes be made? Most certainly. But we are closer now because we have a leader who has actually admitted we have a problem and is bringing ideas to the table to try and fix it.
 
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Yes, God not only gives free will but also knows for all time when/if a situation will result in a dead end.
Frankly, Bannon is posturing way out of his league.
God have mercy on him.
 
CatholicSooner said:
Sorry, but I have very serious issues with Father Martin’s teachings and dealings. He is way to accepting of the gay life style. It is one thing to say we should be accepting of gays…because we should be. But he takes it a step further and attends their rallys,etc. He does nothing to try and help them overcome their sin.
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Not to mention zealously supporting a pro-abortion politician who is in a same sex “marriage.”
 
The irony is that while there are historical abuse crimes yet to be righted, the Catholic Church today is one of the safest, accountable, transparent institutions around as far as preventing abuse. That is due to the hierarchies co operation with civil authorities.
 
CilladeRoma said:
Where was this urgency in 2002 when the Boston scandal broke?

I agree it is a crisis the needs to be dealt with, but it didn’t happen overnight, it will not change overnight and it is unfair to Pope Francis to expect it to.
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Ironically this kind of helps prove the other side’s point.

In 2002, the laity believed that the Church would do what is right to correct the issues. We put too much faith in the humans in the church to do what was right. We didn’t realize how deep the problem was.

Now we do and we continue to let the pope and heirarchy go unchecked, we will keep having the same issues.

So 2002 is the exact reason why people like Steve Bannon and others are being so vocal about Pope Francis and the bishops.
 
This little hyperbole gem is becoming threadbare.

There is quite a difference between allowing the poor to seek asylum and strangers barging into your living room. No one has asked you to welcome just any stranger, to feed them, to clothe them, to give them comfort. Yet, wait, someone DID say to do that.
 
Emeraldlady said:
The irony is that while there are historical abuse crimes yet to be righted, the Catholic Church today is one of the safest, accountable, transparent institutions around as far as preventing abuse. That is due to the hierarchies co operation with civil authorities.
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I am struggling with how to respond to this post. I feel it should not go unchallenged, but I do not know how to respond charitably. So I will just say that this statement is very wrong.
 
Who cares if Steve Bannon talks about the Pope? Who cares what he talks about in general?
 
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Emeraldlady:
The irony is that while there are historical abuse crimes yet to be righted, the Catholic Church today is one of the safest, accountable, transparent institutions around as far as preventing abuse. That is due to the hierarchies co operation with civil authorities.
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I am struggling with how to respond to this post. I feel it should not go unchallenged, but I do not know how to respond charitably. So I will just say that this statement is very wrong.
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Bearing in mind that if you are referring to a knowledge of recent abuse by a clergyman, it should be reported to police which is what the Church tells people to do. It should ensure an unbiased investigation and the full process of justice.

But Crd O’Malley who has been instrumental in the area since coming to Boston in 2003 and heads the Popes Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors says…

“The problem, O’Malley repeatedly suggested, is mostly fixed in the U.S. It just requires tinkering around the edges.”


Righting historical crimes will go on for a long time to come, but today, the Church is under the spotlight of accountability more than any other organisation around.
 
The Vatican does not have property for sale or rent.

They do have wonderful homeless shelter called Dono di Misericordia, they offer showers and laundry service and meals to anyone who needs it.

I’ve not seen any except some fringe groups call for “open borders”. What is needed is compassion, reform and generosity of spirit.
 
’ You are Peter and upon this rock I will build My church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. ’
 
There are literally hundreds of things that can be done to make immigration just that are not open borders. One is to allow individuals or non-profit groups to sponsor families.

Right now, unless one has a corporate sponsor, do you know how long the wait list is? Do you know how much the cost is?

Good article from 2017

www.theatlantic.com

What the Waiting List for Legal Residency Actually Looks Like

Politicians argue immigrants should just “get in line” if they want to live in the United States. But the process itself can take decades.
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An excellent letter:

www.dolr.org

Welcome the Strangers Among Us | DOLR.org

www.dolr.org www.dolr.org
 
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I get the feeling that my posting is only going to key more responses of talking points from certain political sources. Wish you peace and I’m out.
 
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