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Jbrady
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He’s pretty much at the fringe of Catholicism, too, as evidenced by his attacks on the Pope.
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esieffe
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Calm down everyone. Steve is simply preparing the way to Oprah’s book of the month club pick.
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Jbrady
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I don’t think so. He walks the walk and talks the talk of a true ideological demagogue, and is not at all shy about describing his movement as “nationalistic populism”. He has been highly influenced by European Reactionary politics and religion.Calm down everyone. Steve is simply preparing the way to Oprah’s book of the month club pick.
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o_mlly
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In her mission, the salvation of mankind, the Church transcends all borders and is above the world. But Christendom, the Church in the world, did not do well ending in the Protestant Revolt which tore half of Europe away from the Church, setting up strictly national churches in the Protestant countries.The Church has always been globalist in a sense. She promoted the Holy Roman Empire, a Pan-European super-national confederacy, for centuries…to give one example.
While it is always true that popes and bishops must respond to the concrete situations of their times, the clerical response to the world’s problems are not infallible. We respectfully attempt to understand their positions but if we cannot then we must respectfully respond.
The Church must never stress solidarity over and against subsidiarity or vice versa. Both principles stand on their own merits. Globalism stresses solidarity. Nationalism speaks from subsidiarity. Balancing the two is challenging. As Christendom (and Brexit)have taught us: globalism is easier to get into than out of.
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twf
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Seems completely arbitrary. Modern nation states are mostly very young and much larger than the civil units that preceded them. Perhaps you should advocate for the dissolution of the German federal union back to its pre-19th century state.
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Wife.of.Gabriel
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It’s well known what Bannon stands against, but if you still need proof he’s against Legal immigration, watch minutes 14:30 to 15:00.Without proof you make an accusation about a person who can’t defend himself.
This is just one of many, many videos, but those pro-Bannon tend to believe Trump’s propaganda that American Media is the enemy of the people, so the video I selected to post for you is from France.
warning to viewers, this video is Nationalist Propaganda
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Wife.of.Gabriel
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Not sure why you’d come to think that might possibly be true. Especially considering I’ve never mentioned either of those two people.
But since you’ve asked,
George Soros - don’t know anything about him.
Hilary Clinton - I’ve never liked what she stands for - my repulsion for her ideology is about the same as my repulsion for Trump/Bannon’s ideology. Trump/Bannon seems to be more dangerous for our nation because they’re anti-Constitution, most especially Free Speech/Press “enemy of the people” & have repeatedly called for elimination of the Judicial Branch of Government “we need to do away with our entire Judicial System” & publicly telling subordinates to break the law “I’ll pardon you, if you get arrested for refusing Assylum seekers”. At least with Clinton, she would not call for doing away with the entire Judicial System, if she didn’t agree with their Judgment on the Law, for instance if/when Roe v. Wade is overturned even though she clearly wouldn’t like it based on her views.
But since you’ve asked,
George Soros - don’t know anything about him.
Hilary Clinton - I’ve never liked what she stands for - my repulsion for her ideology is about the same as my repulsion for Trump/Bannon’s ideology. Trump/Bannon seems to be more dangerous for our nation because they’re anti-Constitution, most especially Free Speech/Press “enemy of the people” & have repeatedly called for elimination of the Judicial Branch of Government “we need to do away with our entire Judicial System” & publicly telling subordinates to break the law “I’ll pardon you, if you get arrested for refusing Assylum seekers”. At least with Clinton, she would not call for doing away with the entire Judicial System, if she didn’t agree with their Judgment on the Law, for instance if/when Roe v. Wade is overturned even though she clearly wouldn’t like it based on her views.
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o_mlly
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You misquote Bannon. At the minutes you referenced, he says “… stop mass illegal immigration … limit legal immigration to get our sovereignty back and to help our workers.” Please listen more carefully.It’s well known what Bannon stands against, but if you still need proof he’s against Legal immigration, watch minutes 14:30 to 15:00.
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steph03
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I guess Mr Bannon wants to be the 2019 version of Martin Luther …
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Wife.of.Gabriel
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- I’ve never once called you an Anti-Christ nor a Bannonite. I think it’s uncharitable of you to falsely accuse me of doing both.
- I operate my daily life in actual reality. You’ve at least twice now falsely accused me of saying things I’ve never said, so my conversation with you is over.
- Good day to you.
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goout
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Andy Warhol is a prophet for sure.
People get way to riled up over one man’s 15 minutes, a man who like 99.99999% of the rest of us will be utterly forgotten in 100 years.
Don’t make him into something he’s not.
As my counselor said one time:
“just because someone builds a fire doesn’t mean you have to dance around it”
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People get way to riled up over one man’s 15 minutes, a man who like 99.99999% of the rest of us will be utterly forgotten in 100 years.
Don’t make him into something he’s not.
As my counselor said one time:
“just because someone builds a fire doesn’t mean you have to dance around it”
wise words
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Wife.of.Gabriel
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No, I didn’t. I posted a clip, one of many that could have been selected from, to confirm from his own words that he is against both Illegal & Legal Immigration.You misquote Bannon.
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o_mlly
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Certainly appears that you misquoted Bannon from the reference you cited:
And he isn’t against immigration
Yes, he is. He says he is. Watch mins. 14:30-15:00.
You misquote Bannon. At the minutes you referenced, he says “… stop mass illegal immigration … limit legal immigration to get our sovereignty back and to help our workers.” Please listen more carefully.
Nevertheless. Redeem yourself. Please provide the “one of the many” clips that for some unknown reason you did not select that support your claim.No, I didn’t. I posted a clip, one of many that could have been selected from, to confirm from his own words that he is against both Illegal & Legal Immigration.
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Finn
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You believe criticising the Church’s handling of the abuse crisis is equivalent to challenging its theology?I guess Mr Bannon wants to be the 2019 version of Martin Luther …
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fullmetalcatholic
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the Vatican signed the Church over to agenda 2030 and I can’t believe this post gets flagged.
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fullmetalcatholic
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you should - there’s some really creepy things in it.
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SeekSalvation
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He did not even come close to saying he’s “against Legal Immigration”. You come on this forum push your political ideology of lies! Did you not listen to what he said? Is this forum moderated for these type post?
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fullmetalcatholic
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FILL IN THE BLANK: Confusion is the fruit of __________________________ .
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o_mlly
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First, I did not flag your response to my post. As I started to reply, your post faded.How come the Vatican under Pope Bergoglio succumbed to the pressure to implement Agenda 2030 that protects if not proliferates abortion and homosexuality?
Can you show us where the Agenda 2030 protects if not proliferates abortion and homosexuality? I haven’t read the Agenda as I’m not much of a “tree-hugger”.
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