Strong Desire to Attend Mass, But Not Catholic

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Regarding the OP;

I go to mass now and have done only for 5 weeks now after having left my methodist church before christmas! šŸ˜ƒ Mass is nice.
 
Iā€™m the OPā€¦ yes mass is awesome isnā€™t it? Iā€™ve been going to mass near daily since April 29th, nearly 3 months now. This thread has continued since then. I became a catechumen recently. Thereā€™s no ā€œofficialā€ RCIA in my parish, they donā€™t have someone coming into the Church every year because this is a very Catholic city, over 90% of the people are already Catholic. But a Sister is teaching me the catechism and Iā€™ve met many other people in the parish and its wonderful.
 
qui est ce:
Change to Judith, sorry.
No problem, its my fault for picking a user name whose reference is usually only recognized by roboticists and sci fi geeks! šŸ˜‰
Hi Susan,
I only just tripped on this thread, and intend on reading through. Before I do that, though, I wanted to tell you that the above happens to me a lot. Itā€™s because you have the eyes of your soul open to the Lord. Once your eyes are opened, you will realize these arenā€™t coincidences, but rather you are recognizing God all around you. Itā€™s a wonderful, wonderful awareness that God LOVES and WANTS YOU SUSAN CALVIN. God is searching YOU out, just as he searched me out. :extrahappy:
Iā€™m glad to know others have some of the same experiences, and thatā€™s a really great way of explaining it. Not to mention, Iā€™ve been feeling a little down lately and youā€™ve given me some comfort, so I thank you. I continue to have these experiences, it never ceases to amaze me. Thanks so much for the prayers!
 
Iā€™m the OPā€¦ yes mass is awesome isnā€™t it? Iā€™ve been going to mass near daily since April 29th, nearly 3 months now. This thread has continued since then. I became a catechumen recently. Thereā€™s no ā€œofficialā€ RCIA in my parish, they donā€™t have someone coming into the Church every year because this is a very Catholic city, over 90% of the people are already Catholic. But a Sister is teaching me the catechism and Iā€™ve met many other people in the parish and its wonderful.
Catholic mass always seems to have more attendance than protestant churches. This is a good thing that we all should work on maintaining fur now and the future.
 
Judith-Wow, I just found this thread yeterday and stayed up WAY too late reading it and was finally able to finish it this morning! Your story is amazing!:yup: I agree with the others that you need to write a book someday-it would sell like crazy Iā€™m sure. I know Iā€™d buy it.
Thanks, thatā€™s very flattering. Though, its going to be a while before I have time to write a book, if I choose to do so. As it is I can barely come here these days, with my work schedule. But thank you for the sentiment and its a great idea which I am thinking about.
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MyCatholicHeart:
Itā€™s nice to read about someone else that hasnā€™t had any big objections to the faith as they learn about it. I thought I was the only one. Everyone Iā€™ve talked to about converting have had issues with one doctrine or another but I feel like I was born Catholic and someone forgot to tell me for 30 years! I find myself able to agree whole-heartedly with everything Iā€™m learningā€¦at least I am once I understand it!
Wow, the part I boldedā€¦ YES I so relate to what you are saying! Thatā€™s such a great way to describe it; I feel as if I were born Catholic also. I havenā€™t had any major problems so far either. Once I understand things I am fine, just like you. Its nice to know you are the same way as it seems people usually have difficulties with one or the other doctrine.

Thanks so much for the prayers too. I especially need them now so I will take all I can get.
I wish you all the best as you continue your journey. prayers for you :gopray2:
 
Catholic mass always seems to have more attendance than protestant churches. This is a good thing that we all should work on maintaining fur now and the future.
I donā€™t know much about protestant churches, havenā€™t had much dealings with them. I would think though that like anything, some are very well attended and others not. Iā€™m sure the same is true of some Catholic churches, depending on the congregation and where you live. My particular Catholic church is very active and quite traditional also, but I am told by many here that I am fortunate, not all parishes are this way. Mass is offered 3 times a day. We also have Eucharistic Adoration and Benediction. And very shortly we are going to be having a Tridentine mass said every Sunday afternoon. We do have very good attendance but like I say I have nothing to compare it to, other than synagogues. Iā€™m Jewish and the synagogues I grew up around were very well attended also, the men at least went to the synagogue daily to pray and hear the Torah reading. On Shabbos the synagogues were packed full.
 
Just go to Google Images and type in ā€œPadre Pioā€. There, you will find pages and pages of pictures of him. There were quite a few that I had not seen before.
Thanks I did look at him and yes, lots of pictures! I was reading a bit about his life also and its really quite amazing. I want to get a book about him.

Btwā€¦ this has got me thinkingā€¦ is there anything weird about me feeling attracted to saints who are priests? Maybe its just a coincidence, but I love the Cure dā€™Ars, and he is the patron saint of priests. Then I am finding I also am very intrigued by Padre Pio, also I love St. Augustine (not sure heā€™s a priest but heā€™s a doctor of the Church, right?), and I love St. Ignatius also. There were a couple of others too whose names now escape me. Iā€™m just wondering why Iā€™m not more attracted to female saintsā€¦ I mean I do like St. Teresa of Avila, and of course Mother also, I knew her, so thatā€™s a givenā€¦ but the Cure dā€™Ars is my absolute favourite.

Oh and btw againā€¦ how does one go about getting a patron saint? Do I just pick one, or is it based on my state in life, or is the day on which I was born? My birthday is actually the feast of the Guardian Angels.
 
Btwā€¦ this has got me thinkingā€¦ is there anything weird about me feeling attracted to saints who are priests? Maybe its just a coincidence, .
Judith,
It would be wierd if you were not attracted to them.

Part of what happens to everyone as they practice the faith is they are healed in whatever areas they need healing. We are all wounded. We are not only healed from the wounds of our own sins, but we are healed from the wounds caused by others or simply the circumstances of life.

You wrote about your childhood. You do not know who your father is and you wre raped by a vile man. What area of relationships might you think that needs healing? It would be completely impossible for you to have anything remotely close to normal relationships with men. How could you possibly trust men? We are not all evil, but self preservation and survival says you have to keep your distance from half the population. There has to be fear, resentment, confusion.

It is nice that you are attracted to male saints. They are also attracted to you, a whole flock of them.

One of the interesting phenomenon we have in saint lore, is the relationships of certain male and female saints. Surely Francis and Clare is the most famous couple. Saints Francis de Sales and Jane de Chantal are another. These were men and women who were contemporaries and had strong attraction and affection for one another, very deep life long friendships.

There are spiritual bonds that tie us all to one another. The strangest of these stories has to do with Saint John Vianney and Saint Philomena. They were not contemporaries, Saint John being relatively modern and Philomena lived in antiquity. Saint Philomenaā€™s story is very odd. She is a canonized saint and we know nothing about her life. Her tomb was discovered in the catacombs with the inscription above it that said she was a virgin martyr. Her relics were discovered and people began praying to her and a flood of miracles happened. She is canonized solely as a result of so many miracles.

Saint John Vianney was very devoted to her. He prayed at altars erected to her whenever he needed favors from heaven and claimed she always.obtained for him whatever he asked. She could not refuse him.

How will you be spiritually healed from the wounds inflicted upon you by men? There is only one thing that can heal us. It is love. If you are going to be healed in this area you need to be loved by men and to love men. How safe could it be to have relationships with very holy men who are in heaven, temporarily disembodied?

Just wait until you meet Saint Maximillian Kolbe.
 
Saint Francis de Sales
This man was and is a wonderful Saint. His words of wisdom really ring true for me.

As to being attracted to Saints that are priests, I must confess that I am also drawn to them, whether they are in the Church Militant or the Church Triumphant. I look to them for inspiration and learning about faith and spirituality. Their selfless devotion to our Lord is inspiring, and each has a gift to share with us, thanks to God Himself. There is nothing strange about being attracted to holiness, since you are first attracted to the Holy God.

Thus it is, when you are drawing near to our Lord, and your spirit is being ministered to and healed, that spiritual attacks will come. But, as youā€™ve seen, they are repulsed by a steady faith in, and love of God.
 
Thanks, thatā€™s very flattering. Though, its going to be a while before I have time to write a book, if I choose to do so. As it is I can barely come here these days, with my work schedule. But thank you for the sentiment and its a great idea which I am thinking about.
Be sure to keep a diary. It is amazing how much we forget in the space of a year. Sometimes I go back to my diaries and think, ā€œReally? I donā€™t even remember being there!ā€

Years after I had converted, I was flipping through an old diary from the year before I had my sudden encounter with Jesus - turns out that it was not actually ā€œout of the blueā€ (although it certainly felt like it at the time) - I found in my diary that I had consecrated myself to Mary exactly one year before. But I had remembered absolutely nothing about doing so, at all. I still have absolutely no idea what prompted me to do so, since I didnā€™t record that part of the experience.

If it were not for the fact that the diary entry is in my own handwriting, and that the diary itself is kept in a place that only I and my husband know about, I wouldnā€™t even believe that I had done so at all, since what I remember of that period was that I wasnā€™t thinking about the Catholic faith at all, due to other more pressing concerns in my life. šŸ¤·
 
Part of what happens to everyone as they practice the faith is they are healed in whatever areas they need healing. We are all wounded. We are not only healed from the wounds of our own sins, but we are healed from the wounds caused by others or simply the circumstances of life.

You wrote about your childhood. You do not know who your father is and you wre raped by a vile man. What area of relationships might you think that needs healing? It would be completely impossible for you to have anything remotely close to normal relationships with men. How could you possibly trust men? We are not all evil, but self preservation and survival says you have to keep your distance from half the population. There has to be fear, resentment, confusion.
I did have some therapy in my mid-20s, which I believe helped, and I donā€™t have any trouble with male coworkers. I work in a very male-dominated field and I think I fare amazingly well considering. But yes, there are some obvious signs of my past. Like, the fact that I am almost 31 and have never even dated, never even kissed a guy actually. Other than the rape I am a virgin. Iā€™ve been told Iā€™m quite attractive - though Iā€™m not really interested in outward appearances as much as Iā€™ve noticed a lot of women to be, I guess thatā€™s the scientist in me. But men have also told me I am an ā€œice princessā€, I give off the ā€œdonā€™t touchā€ vibe very strongly. I actually chose my username ā€œSusan Calvinā€ not only because I am a roboticist like Dr. Calvin was, but also because I share her ā€œissuesā€ with men to an extent. She seriously distrusted men and preferred the company of robots. I really have nothing against men, I have male friends, though as you mention I definitely have an inner discomfort and mistrust. I also donā€™t feel inclined to date or marry, I would be perfectly content to remain single.
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grandfather:
It is nice that you are attracted to male saints. They are also attracted to you, a whole flock of them.

How will you be spiritually healed from the wounds inflicted upon you by men? There is only one thing that can heal us. It is love. If you are going to be healed in this area you need to be loved by men and to love men. How safe could it be to have relationships with very holy men who are in heaven, temporarily disembodied?
Its a very interesting point which I really didnā€™t consider. Makes sense though, and as you say, who better to help me with this than some very holy men. Saints, and also the priests I have met who are wonderful, and other men Iā€™m assuming. Thanks, it makes me feel better about being attracted to male saints, definitely.
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grandfather:
There are spiritual bonds that tie us all to one another. The strangest of these stories has to do with Saint John Vianney and Saint Philomena. They were not contemporaries, Saint John being relatively modern and Philomena lived in antiquity. Saint Philomenaā€™s story is very odd. She is a canonized saint and we know nothing about her life. Her tomb was discovered in the catacombs with the inscription above it that said she was a virgin martyr. Her relics were discovered and people began praying to her and a flood of miracles happened. She is canonized solely as a result of so many miracles.
WOW I didnā€™t know St. John Vianney loved St. Philomena!! There is another extremely weird ā€œcoincidenceā€!! :eek: Shortly after I started attending mass, I found a novena card of St. Philomena in one of the pews of the church. My priest told me to keep it, that there were plenty more and he gave me an extra one. I framed the one with the picture of her and its part of my little shrine I have in my apartment. I say a prayer to her every day, I have felt attracted to her since I first attended mass. So so weird that the Cure dā€™Ars liked her also, because I love him!
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grandfather:
Just wait until you meet Saint Maximillian Kolbe.
Thanks, heā€™s next on my list to research now!
 
This man was and is a wonderful Saint. His words of wisdom really ring true for me.
Thanks, St. Francis de Sales is now added to my list also!
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po18guy:
As to being attracted to Saints that are priests, I must confess that I am also drawn to them, whether they are in the Church Militant or the Church Triumphant. I look to them for inspiration and learning about faith and spirituality. Their selfless devotion to our Lord is inspiring, and each has a gift to share with us, thanks to God Himself. There is nothing strange about being attracted to holiness, since you are first attracted to the Holy God.
Yes I feel the same way! Makes sense what you say too, about the attraction.
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po18guy:
Thus it is, when you are drawing near to our Lord, and your spirit is being ministered to and healed, that spiritual attacks will come. But, as youā€™ve seen, they are repulsed by a steady faith in, and love of God.
Yes, its been a difficult week but Iā€™ve preserved in praying and its really paid off. Thanks again to you and to everyone who has prayed for me.
 
Be sure to keep a diary. It is amazing how much we forget in the space of a year. Sometimes I go back to my diaries and think, ā€œReally? I donā€™t even remember being there!ā€
Iā€™ve been a little lax in keeping a really detailed diary, but thanks for the reminder, it is a very good idea! I will have to be more diligent. Iā€™m really grateful I have this thread actuallyā€¦ I can go back through it (and probably should this weekend!) and hopefully it will help me to remember some things Iā€™d forgotten to write. Iā€™m resolved to keep a daily diary from now on, especially as things are really starting to get interesting! šŸ˜‰
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jmcrae:
Years after I had converted, I was flipping through an old diary from the year before I had my sudden encounter with Jesus - turns out that it was not actually ā€œout of the blueā€ (although it certainly felt like it at the time) - I found in my diary that I had consecrated myself to Mary exactly one year before. But I had remembered absolutely nothing about doing so, at all. I still have absolutely no idea what prompted me to do so, since I didnā€™t record that part of the experience.

If it were not for the fact that the diary entry is in my own handwriting, and that the diary itself is kept in a place that only I and my husband know about, I wouldnā€™t even believe that I had done so at all, since what I remember of that period was that I wasnā€™t thinking about the Catholic faith at all, due to other more pressing concerns in my life. šŸ¤·
Wow, thatā€™s cool you consecrated yourself, though too bad that you donā€™t remember whyā€¦ I really see your point!
 
I also donā€™t feel inclined to date or marry, I would be perfectly content to remain single.

Thanks, heā€™s [St. Maximilian Kolbe] next on my list to research now!
Greetings! St. Maximilian Kolbe is a saint that I highly esteem. By now you probably know that he had a newspaper, was a priest and, giving his life to save another, was martyred in Auschwitz. Iā€™m going to let you read all the details about him rather than trying to re-tell the whole incredible story. He is the patron saint of journalism. I am praying to him about our town since the local newspaper has gone very far to the left and anti-Christian in the last five years. Once I had started this, an internet newspaper has been started and another free paper has appeared, seemingly out of nowhere. It is important that we have free speech and accurate reporting here. I used to write and proofread for the paper, and it looks like Iā€™ll be doing it again for one of these new ventures. Iā€™ve done one article on the internet, about the health care system.

About your other statementā€“it has been my contention for years that single people are not respected as they should be. There seems to be the idea that one has to be married. This is not the case, and Catholics donā€™t seem to think this way. Jesus spoke about the calling to singleness being for the sake of the Kingdom of God. I have been married for 25 years and felt called to it, among other reasons for getting married, but that doesnā€™t mean everybody has to do it or should. Have you ever, even briefly, visited the idea of becoming a Sister? You seem so well geared to it since your nature seems to be devout. But that same devotion can be lived out as a godly single lady, or married lady. I hope I havenā€™t said anything I shouldnā€™t. Peace be with you.
 
Iā€™m the OPā€¦ yes mass is awesome isnā€™t it? Iā€™ve been going to mass near daily since April 29th, nearly 3 months now.
You are a mass nerd like me!! šŸ‘

Some Sundayss, if Iā€™m scheduled to cantor at a different masss than the choir, I even go twice. (I sing in choir and occasionally cantor).
 
But men have also told me I am an ā€œice princessā€, I give off the ā€œdonā€™t touchā€ vibe very strongly. I actually chose my username ā€œSusan Calvinā€ not only because I am a roboticist like Dr. Calvin was, but also because I share her ā€œissuesā€ with men to an extent. She seriously distrusted men and preferred the company of robots. I really have nothing against men, I have male friends, though as you mention I definitely have an inner discomfort and mistrust. I also donā€™t feel inclined to date or marry, I would be perfectly content to remain single.
Men and women give off signals to one another when they are hormonally attracted and want to know if the other person feels the same way. This might be called flirting. When menā€™s signals are ignored or they donā€™t get the right signal back the woman is an ice princess.

What is important for you to know is that we all can love one another without inflamed hormones, chastely. My bet is that you are a delighful person to know and spend time with. For a man looking for more than friendship though you might seem scary. Since you are not looking for more than friendship that is their problem not yours.
 
men have also told me I am an ā€œice princessā€, I give off the ā€œdonā€™t touchā€ vibe very strongly.
Well they SHOULDNā€™T touch. :mad: Negative connotation aside (for them), ice princess sounds like a cool nickname. You certainly donā€™t give any ā€œback offā€ vibe here though, so theyā€™re crazy. šŸ˜›

If you do re-read your original posts from way back again, let us know if anything interesting pops up. Iā€™m sure it must be weird to see what you were like back then when you first started.
 
Iā€™ve been reading lately about Protestants who leave their church and become Catholics. I have yet to hear a story about someone who left their Protestant church because they rejected the belief in forensic justification, i.e. that God declares those who believe in Jesus righteous.

I havenā€™t read any stats about it, but I would imagine that Protestants-turned-Catholics have no exposure or commitment to that doctrine. I also believe that there is no essential difference between Roman Catholic teaching and Wesleyan beliefs (Nazarene, Assembly of God, Methodist, etc.). Therefore, I am not surprised when someone leaves one Church for the other.
 
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