The Case for Impeachment Is Overwhelming | The American Conservative

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Nahar said:
How very true. They distort, deflect and deny everything that casts the smallest “shadow” on their glorified and snow-white leader - who was directly installed by God.
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Abuse of power, heck. He was an illegitimate President, according to Trump. Or at least implied by him.
 
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“Oversight” does not mean “dominance”. The president is not an employee of the House of Representatives. Nobody but liberals use the word “king” to describe Trump, as an insult of course.

The House can impeach, but it cannot remove a president.
Nahar said:
Unfortunately the Senate will likely not remove the president, because they are scared out of their wits
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Completely silly as an assertion. The senate won’t convict because there’s no basis for it and the Repubs in the senate have no political purpose in doing it like the House dems do. And, of course, if the Repubs are scared, why aren’t the Dems, every last one of whom will vote for impeachment. They’re not afraid of Trump, they’re afraid of Pelosi, who holds massive purse strings and is vindictive.

Your “50%” favoring impeachment has faded, particularly in the “must win” states.

And I wouldn’t count on Trump’s support not being over 40% either. Some of the Dems even admit Trump will be re-elected and that the impeachment is the only way to prevent it.

But so far, it has not dimmed his chances, but enhanced them.
 
ProVobis said:
I wouldn’t bet the farm on it.
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I’ll concede on this point. Probably Nancy Pelosi will allow a few of them in districts that went heavily for Trump to vote against impeachment or not vote at all. But she’ll have her majority, guaranteed.
 
Yes I heard this as well. Those in battleground states will be allowed to vote against impeachment.All optics at this point.
 
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Optics is why the one Republican voting for impeachment had to call himself an Independent.
 
PaulinVA said:
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7_Sorrows:
My question is, from now on every time the democrats lose an election, is this
what we have to look forward to?
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I think you know this isn’t true. No President has ever been like Donald Trump. It’s all about Trump, not losing an election. It’s all about how Trump acts, the company he keeps, what he says, how he conducts the business of the country.
7_Sorrows said:
Will our country be held hostage by a political party because they lost?
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Once again, you know this isn’t true. While I am very sad for the partisanship that is tearing this country apart, both parties are at fault. Not only in the impeachment context, but in governing in general.
7_Sorrows said:
They want to assure a victory in the 2020 election for themselves
so their last chance is this impeachment process. They have to keep bringing the
attention to themselves to show Trump might be president, but they are the ones
in power along with their liberal media friends and the rest of us “deplorables”
better accept it and get used to it!!!
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More rhetoric. Thanks, but I couldn’t follow the last couple of sentences.
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Everything I wrote is true and I guess the truth hurts.
 
Ahh,Paul in VA just exposed the real agenda behind this relentless scam.Its all about Trump.The way he acts the things he says…yesssss
Nothing about what an awesome and effective president he has been for everyone in the Nation.Just as I suspected all along. . . .Ohhhh my!:woman_facepalming:t2:
 
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Jeanne_S:
Not would …
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Among all of the unsubstantiated numbers in the post, it is worth noting that Trump’s approval is now lower at this point in the presidency than all former presidents back to and including Truman - including Jimmy Carter.
How Popular Is Donald Trump? | FiveThirtyEight

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I wonder why so many are not in favor of this impeachment then?
 
dvdjs said:
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Guinness:
The proposition that Trump is corrupt
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Trump requested and pressured foreign government to involve themselves in our affairs, not for the sake of the nation but for the purpose of advancing his candidacy in 2020. That is corruption. And that, to the founders is an impeachable offense of the first order.
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@dvdjs

My advice is to stop getting your news from CNN. Even the president of Ukraine said there was no pressure.
CNN chose what part of the hearings to show today. The liberal media can’t
report the truth.
 
Guinness said:
This is what I find most distressing about Trump’s haters. They do their best, whether intentionally or not, to communicate that they real target of their hate is not Trump, but us.
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I don’t hate Trump, and I don’t hate you.

Why do I have to hate you? Does it make it easier to discount my arguments? Please, don’t pedal these lies.
Jeanne_S said:
Ahh,Paul in VA just exposed the real agenda behind this relentless scam.Its all about Trump.The way he acts the things he says…yesssss
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Uhm, of course it’s about Trump and his conduct.
Jeanne_S said:
Nothing about what an awesome and effective president he has been for everyone in the Nation.Just as I suspected all along.It’s really is about hating or despising Trump the man
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Once again, I don’t hate anyone. And the kids dying on the border would probably dispute dispute your statement.
 
ProVobis said:
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7_Sorrows:
CNN chose what part of the hearings to show today.
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Most of it is grandstanding so no big loss.
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That is why you don’t know the facts or you choose to ignore them if you say “no big loss”. Unfortunately, I am afraid too many in our country have this attitude.
 
7_Sorrows said:
That is why you don’t know the facts or you choose to ignore them
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Okay, so tell me what facts, for example, Senator Graham spread today that are worth hearing. He says one thing one day and another the next.
 
It wasn’t only Senator Graham. It pays to watch the hearings in their entirety when
they aren’t edited to just show one side.

I don’t have time to write all the information. Hopefully C-Span and PBS will
reshow the hearings tonight and you can watch them yourself.

Senator Graham looked exhausted.
 
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