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PaulinVA
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Because he’s not.
The Case for Impeachment Is Overwhelming | The American Conservative
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Jeanne_S
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Exactly! The relentless attacks for the past three years is the cause of the tweets.No other president before him has had to endure such hatefulness petty attacks.No other president before his m has had the fortitude to fight back,not back down and still accomplish what he has in spite of the unecessary drama the Dems and media have perpetuated.
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LeafByNiggle
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Zelensky is brand new to politics and needs to polish his image with his people of a strong leader. If he admitted to feeling pressured by the US to do their bidding, it would make him appear weak. Then there is this: Zelensky knows he needs aid from Trump to hold off the Russians who are currently attacking his nation. If he came out against Trump, he may worry about future interruptions in that aid which might spell disaster for Ukraine, and even more likely for himself politically. He is walking a tightrope on these questions put to him by reporters. Further, he is not testifying under oath and has no particular reason to tell all he knows. And if you look at the exact wording of his responses and their context, you will see that he is leaving himself some wiggle room on this “no pressure” response.
In summary, Zelensky’s answers are non-committal and cannot be taken as any kind of “proof” that a bribe was not offered by Trump.
LeafByNiggle
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Nope. The tweets came first, and have never stopped. You have the cause and effect backwards.
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dvdjs
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Promise made. Promise broken.
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F_Marturana
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People doubted, even on this forum, that Barack Obama was even born in the US.
His wife was compared to a monkey.
He wore a beige suit. He wore flip flops on the beach. Pearls were clutched. “How dare he, so unpresidential!”
Trump mocked a disabled reporter.
He just today mocked a child.
At a rally he play acted a sexual encounter between Lisa Paige and Peter Sztrock. :cricket_bat_and_ball:
At another rally he led a chant of “BS” but used the whole Bull s***
These things are base.
They are vulgar
And they are constant.
And they are tolerated.
And even cheered
His wife was compared to a monkey.
He wore a beige suit. He wore flip flops on the beach. Pearls were clutched. “How dare he, so unpresidential!”
Trump mocked a disabled reporter.
He just today mocked a child.
At a rally he play acted a sexual encounter between Lisa Paige and Peter Sztrock. :cricket_bat_and_ball:
At another rally he led a chant of “BS” but used the whole Bull s***
These things are base.
They are vulgar
And they are constant.
And they are tolerated.
And even cheered
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RCIAGraduate
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Huh, thanks for explaining. Don’t necessarily agree but clears up a little (but what about safety nets)?
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Maximus1
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The sun rose. How bout that
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Ridgerunner
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One does not attempt to counter nothing at all. The only fact witness was Sondland and his single fact favored Trump.
Interesting psych analysis of a person about whom you know nothing, in reality.
LeafByNiggle
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It’s common sense based on facts we do know. I didn’t make it up. I’ve heard smarter people than me say all these things.
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Guinness
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What about them?
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OneSheep
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This is incorrect. The way “checks and balances” works is that there are instances when the executive is subordinate to judicial, the judicial is subordinate to legislative, the executive is subordinate to legislative, etc.
Social justice and anti-abortion are not on different planes, they are all about the care for people, centering on use of the gifts of the Spirit, on mercy.
A Catholic “becoming a villain” will be in the eye of the beholder. We share in the body and blood, we are to forgive those who trespass against us. If a person has a grievance against Donald Trump, he is to forgive. This does not mean that we are to let him be free to do the unjust, or receive consequences for behaving unjustly.
Jeanne, is there anything that Donald Trump has done or said that you find worthy of criticism?
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RCIAGraduate
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I’d like to please hear your thoughts. 
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Guinness
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That’s not the way “check and balances” work. The President’s check on the legislature, the veto, doesn’t make Congress the President’s subordinate.
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OneSheep
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Okay, explain how the president is not, in some cases, subordinate to congress. The president does not approve of the final budget, even though he can veto it. The president does not write legislation. The president is not allowed to deny subpoenas from congress.
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Guinness
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After you explain how the Congress is, in some cases, subordinate to the President, I’ll be happy to take a crack at it…
They’re necessary, but need to be balanced so as not to provide a disincentive towards work if capable.
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OneSheep
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Congress may not overrule the president’s wish to have a temporary person in his cabinet. Congress may not force the president to have certain people working for him.
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ProVobis
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Except he got re-elected in 2004.
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Guinness
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That doesn’t make Congress subordinate to the President, that is a function of the separation of powers. Congress and the Executive have different authorities under the Constitution. The President can’t introduce laws, but that doesn’t mean Congress is his boss.
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ProVobis
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The President has restricted all others from testifying.
But, as Giuliani would say, so what?
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