The Catastrophic American Response to the Coronavirus

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Pattylt said:
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Ridgerunner:
I don’t think anybody thinks he’s exempt from negative press.
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Do you think he should be?
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Do you think he should have been subjected to everything the democrats have put him through since the election? Do you think the left wing media was ethical in their negative coverage of him daily since the election and as an extended branch of the democrat party?

Negative press is one thing. Setting out to destroy a president and his presidency is another. @Pattylt
 
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F_Marturana said:
Especially we did have a bit of time from when it first appeared in Italy and when it appeared here.

45,000 deaths in just a few weeks is just so tragically incredible.
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The United States has the lowest mortality rate per number of infected cases.
We have the highest number of deaths, but statistically we are number 10
when you figure the per million of the population. 9 countries are ahead of us with the highest death rate. @F_Marturana
 
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Of course, the US did really well, if you just discount those that got sick and died.
 
Since the world is round, and considering how it sound on its axis, east/ west is not a geographical claim.
 
Pattylt said:
Do you think he should be?
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Of course not. But I do think the MSM effectively and intentionally donating billions of dollars worth of advertising to the Dem party without the party having to disclose it is wrong.
 
7_Sorrows said:
The United States has the lowest mortality rate per number of infected cases.
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Considering that the vast majority of US cases remain unresolcved, it is very premature to make such a claim.
Moreover, even taking the data in had at face value the statement is incorrect, even if restricted to countries of Western Europe, or for that matter, North America.
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we are number 10
when you figure the per million of the population. 9 countries are ahead of us with the highest death rate.
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Being tenth in the world puts us in the bottom 5% of the world’s nations.
It is not at all clear that that should be considered good.
Neither is it clear why deaths should be viewed on a per capita basis in the first place.
 
Ever go to a football game and hear a chant," we’re number ten( holding up all ten fingers)
Do you know why being number ten is not celebrated?
 
7_Sorrows said:
Negative press is one thing. Setting out to destroy a president and his presidency is another
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I think a lot of it is a matter of perspective. I watched the exact same type of things going on during the Obama presidency as well. It always seems harsher when it’s “your guy”. I thought they were unfair to Obama and I think they’re unfair to Trump and I think it’s the nature of the business.
 
Pattylt said:
they’re unfair to Trump
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Trump thought the press was unfair to him since the 1980’s. But he got a lot of free airtime during all this time to express it. Only the banks didn’t buy it and rightfully so.
 
The press is rarely fair to any high political leader and never has been. Have you ever read about the smear campaigns during the 1800’s? We’re milk toast compared to then! 😂
 
JacobF said:
the hospital she works at as directed that anyone who dies due to some kind of respiration illness, Covid-19 has to be listed as the cause.
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Could you please provide the name of this hospital so that this claim can be checked?
 
That is a widespread practice across the board.More profitable to hospitals not to mention more aligned to the underlying agenda if you know what I mean.😉
 
Pattylt said:
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7_Sorrows:
Negative press is one thing. Setting out to destroy a president and his presidency is another
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I think a lot of it is a matter of perspective. I watched the exact same type of things going on during the Obama presidency as well. It always seems harsher when it’s “your guy”. I thought they were unfair to Obama and I think they’re unfair to Trump and I think it’s the nature of the business.
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Obama was adored and worshipped among the liberals and the liberal left wing media. They protected him of any criticisms. He could do no wrong so they
did everything they could to shield and protect him and portray him in a favorable
light. It was fake.

No president has had to endure what President Trump has. @Pattylt
 
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JacobF said:
I’m definitely skeptical of the death numbers. A friend of our family is a nurse and she told us that the hospital she works at as directed that anyone who dies due to some kind of respiration illness, Covid-19 has to be listed as the cause. If a person they have been treating for bad pneumonia or something like that since before Covid-19 even hit the US, they are mandated to declare Covid as the cause of death.
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I have heard the same claims. So I also am suspicious of the numbers.

Are autopsies performed on every death?
 
7_Sorrows said:
No president has had to endure what President Trump has.
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I think your memory is a bit short. The right wing media excoriated Obama as much as left wing media does Trump. As I said, I think it’s a matter of perspective if it’s “your guy” or the “other guy”.

And it’s certainly not the worst in history!
 
Yes agree the better term is Western Democracies that are in large part functioning like the motherland (Europe the first true Western Democracy). I only raised it because there is a belief that Australia is NOT a Western Democracy.
 
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