The Great Reset

[Motherwit]

Nothng is going to get better with China until it ceases its authoritarian dictatorship form of government and its persecution of religion.

Maybe Pope Francis will be a communist whisperer as he was for Cuban Catholics? The biggest problem that communist countries have is with the US basically. Our Pope doesn’t have any great bias towards the US and that makes him appealing and trustworthy. Who knows where that will lead.

 

[JimG]

So far it’s only led to persecution. Of all religions. The Chinese Communist Party views religion as a threat.

https://bitterwinter.org/tag/authorities-against-christians/

 

[Socrates92]

the past 5 years I have had about $1,000,000 dollars in health care cost to my insurance company. My cost less than about $60,000. It is a lie that US health care system is in any shape form or fashion bad or broken.

Hmm not buying it. Was the health care you received worth $1 million to you, or (assuming you had the resources) would it have been worth a good deal less? (Although potentially more than $60,000). I think it’s still fairly obvious when comparing total healthcare expenditures that you folks in the USA have a price problem, driven by the the problems in your 3rd payer system.

 

[Socrates92]

Why isn’t something worth trying to make things better, than just sitting around opining and complaining?

You can’t base a plan of action on just good intentions. If the “try” is certain to make things much worse, it’s much better to simply maintain the status quo, regardless how bad you might think it is.

 

[Annie]

Here are some of the ongoing WEF initiatives for a better, fairer world.

I didn’t read all of them, but the ones I did read could all be boiled down to “we are looking into how to make everything in the world work based on the foundation of our philosophy.”

Euphemists, all of them. (cf Eugenics and Other Evils by GKC)

 

[Maximian]

The problem with the NHS is not the medics but the army of bureaucrats behind them. It’s one of the biggest employers in Europe if not the biggest.It eats up a significant part of government revenue.

Im glad you had good experiences but you were lucky. Here are mine:

1. When my wife was pregnant she complained of searing pains but the GP just patted her patronisingly on the hand and said it was nature”s way. Nothing more because he was in a hurry, all doctors are in a hurry on the NHS because they aee overworked due to the fact that so much money is spent on clerical activities that there aren’t enough doctors.

Then she had the baby and still felt terrible. She went to stay with her mother in Spain whi took her to a doctor. He immediately suspected gall stones, sent her to be operated and it turned out they were just about to pierce her liver. She would have died. The surgeon said “didn’t the ecography pick it up? Its quite obvious.”

1. We moved towns and had a new GP who became a friend. She told us flatly: I have to allocate 5 minutes per patient. I have a restrictive budget so please, if you can afford to go private, do, so that I can spend the budget on the poor. Of course we did, but it’s not great to be paying about 9 percent of your income on a health system only to be asked to pay again for private treatment anyway
2. Last year my daughter twisted her ankle in tennis. The waiting list to see the GP was 10 days. So I flew her back to Luxembourg where we now live and she was seen to by sports doctors who said “if you had waited 10 days you wouldn’t play tennis again.

So there are three personal experiences which all boil down to National Health squandering resources on paperwork.

And by the way, the lack of cleanliness in British hospitals is a standing joke in Europe

 

[Annie]

One of my ‘favorites’ is the concrete step of forming a new model of economic and cultural society in within the European Union.

Oh, and how do the European people feel about having the Davos crowd design their “new model of economic and cultural society”?

And to be honest, if there are no specific goals, it’s just a wishlist. What you describe as a concrete goal is not even a plan to pour cement.

Why isn’t something worth trying to make things better, than just sitting around opining and complaining?

Just because something is not perfect is no reason to assume that anything will make it better.

 

[Maximian]

Unless as in other countries you had private insurance, which you could afford if you weren’t paying through the nose for the NHS

 

[umamibella]

Unless as in other countries you had private insurance, which you could afford if you weren’t paying through the nose for the NHS

Or a good medicare scheme. Here medical insurance is quite a bit cheaper then what I am reading as quoted up thread.

 

[Motherwit]

Motherwit:

Why isn’t something worth trying to make things better, than just sitting around opining and complaining?

You can’t base a plan of action on just good intentions. If the “try” is certain to make things much worse, it’s much better to simply maintain the status quo, regardless how bad you might think it is.

Having been raised on the Jesus of Scripture and the example of the missionary Church He left us, I can’t be content to just accept that ‘nothing can be done’ so we’ll just forget about those suffering in the world. There are lots of people who don’t accept that hopelessness.

 

[Socrates92]

Having been raised on the Jesus of Scripture and the example of the missionary Church He left us, I can’t be content to just accept that ‘nothing can be done’.

Neither can I, but that’s not what I said. I said not that nothing was the goal, but that “nothing” is preferable to worse harm.

 

[Motherwit]

Motherwit:

Here are some of the ongoing WEF initiatives for a better, fairer world.

I didn’t read all of them, but the ones I did read could all be boiled down to “we are looking into how to make everything in the world work based on the foundation of our philosophy.”

Euphemists, all of them. (cf Eugenics and Other Evils by GKC)

What do people who are motivated to go out and do something about injustice and suffering do? Say a Rosary and hope for the best? What do you think should be done? Or nothing at all?

 

[Motherwit]

Motherwit:

Having been raised on the Jesus of Scripture and the example of the missionary Church He left us, I can’t be content to just accept that ‘nothing can be done’.

Neither can I, but that’s not what I said. I said not that nothing was the goal, but that “nothing” is preferable to worse harm.

So what alternative action are you supporting?

 

[Annie]

There are have been people helping those are suffering all along. They simply go and help alleviate the actual cause of real people’s suffering.

Consider a few things: for decades, all I have heard from the left is that capitalists are greedy and without conscience. Now they come up with pretty-sounding words and you suddenly trust them to remake our entire world? Seriously?

What is the problem in Europe that it needs “new model of economic and cultural society” at all, much less one designed and implemented by a group of people many of whom are not even from a European nation?

And why do you think this is such a great thing, considering that those on the left have for decades held Europe up as some sort of paragon that the US should emulate?

Ah, yes, tis a grand thing to change the entire world! No hubris there; no, none at all! So much… cleaner than going to a hot, dusty village over uncomfortable terrain and having to actually interact with those suffering people.

Christ said, Go out and teach all nations. That is our task. That Is how we build the Kingdom of God.

Letting the wealthiest among us… giving them carte blanche over our lives… how is that in any way related to going and teaching?

Say a Rosary and hope for the best? What do you think should be done? Or nothing at all?

Yes, say a rosary. The world would be vastly improved if all that happened was that we got everyone saying rosaries.

After praying the Rosary, then go and help a few people who are suffering. They say that only about one-third of Catholics attend Mass regularly. A lot of them are older women, maybe a lot of that 1/3rd already do something and a bunch are children, so let’s say 10% are in a position to do something. Ten percent of 25% would be 2.5% of the US population.

Now suppose those people went out and started doing something: tutoring poor children stuck in low-achieving schools. Helping elderly people by getting their groceries. Visiting and helping the families of inmates visit those in prison.

That is alleviating suffering. That is what spreads the Gospel, inspiring others to follow Christ and starting to help alleviate suffering as well.

So, yes, saying a Rosary is a great first step. Following it up by action is necessary.

You sound as if you think praying a Rosary and hoping for the best is a stupid thing to do that will not help anyone.

But what are you proposing? Putting your trust in rich capitalists and hoping for the best yourself.

 

[ewohdrol]

I have great health care. Any of those other systems, and I have done the math, it would cost me more and I would get less.

I’m sure you do. I bet you also have a job.

What of those who don’t?

 

[ewohdrol]

This is based on personal experiences, or textbook?

I grew up in Western Europe (don’t want to be too identifying) Lived in the UK in my 20s and Canada for one year. I’m now settled in Australia so I feel I have a relatively good idea of at least those systems.

Canada and Australia in particular have phenomenal Medicare equivalents. You can opt into private if you want to avoid lines. All those without means to do so can access free/cheap medical care.

 

[fide]

What is that “unity of purpose” which is specifically problematic for you other than “abortion”? There are many more progressives which deal with a much wider range of pro-life issues than most conservatives as a whole.

So, define unity of purpose, it would be interesting to know.

The ultimate common purpose driving “progressives” (given, however, that many may not fully realize the direction their ship - the one they are standing on - is sailing) - that purpose, the goal, the dystopic “utopia” of their dreams, is the canceling of all borders. No national borders - one great and happy nation. “Progressives” allow no God superior to their own dreams, no “divine laws” or restrictions to enclose and inhibit them. No pre-decided “right” or “wrong” - we are beyond that myth and all myths. No such “border” as “human nature” - we are free to recreate, redefine, redesign the human person as we continue to “evolve” toward… well, toward being God unto ourselves!

(All the above, of course, regulated and directed and controlled by the all-benevolent, all-smart, all-politically-correct Leaders who love us and take care of us and provide for us all that they foresee to be good for us.) So we can just kick back and have fun. And play games. And watch TV, which will eternally get better and more cool forever.

And BTW - “truth” is just a word, not a reality except as “we” define it. It’s meaning is flexible, pliable to the needs at hand. Words are just tools, like the other people “we” lead.

 

[fide]

I wish & pray this to be true, however the fallen nature of humanity has led us to conclude that one does not exist without the other. Maybe one day when all humanity unite the hearts & minds to one true understanding of existence.

Jesus brings some very “good news”. “Behold, I make all things new.” (Rev 21:5)

 

[phil3]

Was it worth 1,000,000 to me. Well the stents maybe prevent a heart attack and maybe death. The back surgery allowed me to return to work after 3 years of not working.

Yes worth every penny. What the hospital charges the insurance company is between them. But at least I know what the amount was charged. It appears that in the UK people had no idea what the hospital charges for it services. I know what I paid over the 5 year period to be covered. That total cost to cover my family was right at $60,000 about 8% of our income. To to the total cost of those operations and all the dr visits all the mri all the test etc etc etc, that is for the insurance companies and medical groups to work out.

 

[Peeps]

You know about the line item veto, right? It is a power that presidents and governors desire to allow them to sign a bill, but not accept everything in the bill. Well, I wish we as voters had a line item veto when we vote, so that we could vote for a candidate, but then register a veto on those aspects of the candidate’s platform we disagree with. Unfortunately there is no such thing. So we have to make a binary choice, weighing everything together. That is why we sometimes vote for someone even though we do not support all of their policies.

It’s a terrifying thing to vote for anyone who advocates abortion. Think hard before doing this.

Abortion is the killing of a human being that people don’t want and aren’t willing to allow to be born and give away to others who DO want that human being and are willing to care for them.

There are a lot of people that are not wanted.

People with severe disabilities.

People with terminal illnesses.

People with violent tendencies.

People with addictions that they cannot overcome after many attempts.

People who have mental disabilities, who are unable to learn even the most basic life skills (e.g. toilet-training), who cannot communicate, who require around-the-clock supervision and care.

People who refuse to submit to authority.

People who are unattractive or frightening to others.

People who are useless.

People who are different.

People who disagree with the majority.

People who are religious fanatics.

People who…