The Missing Link has Been Found how will this change morality?

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TruthisBeauty7 said:
Feanor2;5249180:
You are Catholic?

Then why listen to an evangelist?
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He speaks the truth. You see to me evolution and false ecumenism are the two most poisonous theories facing us in our day.
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TruthisBeauty7,

I don’t understand your presuppositions. You are declaring that you are a Catholic and – as I understand it, at least – the mark of a good Catholic is to do as the Catholic Church teaches. Yet you are embracing a stance that is evidently in direct opposition to Catholic teaching. Given the screen name you have chosen it seems to me that objective truth would be best served if you were to drop the word “Catholic” from your profile. After all, on this question, you are rejecting Catholic teaching and endorsing Evangelical thinking. Can you help me to understand exactly why you’re doing that?

Respectfully,
Mick
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Ah, I see cherry picking is in season. I’m sure by the time you’re done, TruthisBeauty7, you’ll be able to make a nice cherry pie.
 
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TruthisBeauty7 said:
1.the philosophy of evolution is based upon assumptions that cannot be scientifically verified…whatever evidence can be assembled for evolution is both limited and circumstantial in nature." G.A. Kerkut, pro-evolution ([4
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If you are going to refer to quotes from scientists then it is up to you to give the source of the quote. All you have given here is “([4” which is not where this quote came from. At best it is a mangled internal reference from the creationist quotemine you copied this stuff from. It is up to you to supply correct references. I notice that most of the other quotes have missing or incomplete references as well.

I can also do a quotemine:Sheep have souls:
“one soul of five hundred, both of the persons, and of the beeves, and of the asses, and of the sheep.” [KJV - Numbers 31:28]

Jesus was a sheep:
“John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, ‘Look, the Lamb of God…’” [John 1:29]

Jesus only saves Israeli sheep:
“I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel” [Matthew 15:24]

These sheep hate their fathers:
“For I have come to set a man against his father” [Matthew 10:35], [Luke 14:26]

They are all atheists:
“There is no God” [Psalms 14:1, 53:1]
It is quite amazing what you can “prove” with out of context and misinterpreted quotes. Your quotemine was just as convincing as mine was, that is not convincing at all.

You are not doing yourself or the anti-evolution side any favours with such a poor quality post.

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I see your Orthodox thats great man.

The Theory Of Evolution is not a dogma. Its not a even a teaching per say of the church. It’s just something the Church says one can believe or not believe .
 
Rossum I see your from london. Thats Pretty cool. I picture you with your English accent sipping your tea , and saying to yourself this is bloody rubbish!

Anyway Rossum…Im just showing some evidence that Evolution through these qoutes doesnt have that much credence in academic circles.

Your trying to make this into something else.

Rossum, why havent you believed in Jesus ? I fear for your soul, Buddha is dead. Jesus Christ is alive. A Catholic in a state of grace has more holiness in his finger then buddha had in his whole being.

Please Consider becoming Catholic.
 
matahari said:
Sounds as if you’re remonstrating with yourself. Give up your adherence to the wacky theory of evolution and you’ll be able to see more clearly to take speck out of your brother’s eye .
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I should have known we would get a non-answer. 😉
 
Silvereel said:
I agree, Truth, you’re making too many posts on the same subject and they should be combined. Now, what does evolution have to do with morality? Nothing, unless you view it through Darwinian philosophy. If we view it through the lense of Christians/Catholics, as many, including Pope John Paul II, have why should it affect morality? All the theory says is that things evovle. We have evidence to support this. Accepting this doesn’t change our world view or our faith! It’s a matter of science and nothing more. Why can’t God have come in at some point and given us souls and morality? Perhaps at the same point as humans made the leap from primates. The Church teaches that two beings known as Adam and Eve did exist. Why can’t these be early humans, the first with souls and morality, and the first to fall to sin?
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It will have a effect in the courts.
Someone murders someone. says he isn’t a criminal, that he was just acting naturally. then the courts will say. poor boy. instead of a long jail term he will be given a few years in a nut house.
 
TruthisBeauty7 said:
Tim

You dont like me do you?

Truth hurts I know .
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I don’t know you so I would not say I don’t like you. I would be more than happy to sit down and have a cup of coffee or a beer with you!

However, I don’t like your position and I really don’t like your quote mining. It is intellectually dishonest and, in my opinion, not very Christian.

Peace

Tim
 
TruthisBeauty7 said:
Rossum I see your from london. Thats Pretty cool. I picture you with your English accent sipping your tea , and saying to yourself this is bloody rubbish!
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I do have the accent, but I don’t like tea very much so I rarely drink it.
Anyway Rossum…Im just showing some evidence that Evolution through these qoutes doesnt have that much credence in academic circles.
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You have shown no such thing. All you have shown is that you can cut and paste from a creationist quotemine. I showed you how useless quotemining is, or do you believe that Jesus was a sheep? I noticed that none of the scientists in your quotemine were called “Steve”; I have a list of over 1,000 scientists called Steve who support evolution. I also have a list of over 10,000 Christian ministers who also support evolution. If this is a numbers game then you lose.
Rossum, why havent you believed in Jesus ?
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I believe that Jesus existed. I do not believe all that His followers claim about Him. From my point of view Jesus was an advanced Bodhisattva. To a Buddhist that is a much higher status than being a mere God; an advanced Bodhisattva is much closer to nirvana than the average god.
I fear for your soul,
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Thank you for your concern, but in Buddhism there is no such thing as a soul:“All the elements of reality are soulless.”
When one realises this by wisdom,
then one does not heed ill.
This is the Path of Purity.

Dhammapada 20:7
Buddha is dead. Jesus Christ is alive.
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That is precisely the point. Buddhism is a method to avoid rebirth, so when one dies one is not reborn again. The Buddha attained nirvana and was not reborn.
A Catholic in a state of grace has more holiness in his finger then buddha had in his whole being.
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So where did you meet the Buddha?
Please Consider becoming Catholic.
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I have no intention of joining any religion whose adherents insist that I have to leave my brain behind as I enter. Your insistence that evolution is incompatible with Catholicism is an obstacle to my believing. To quote Saint Thomas Aquinas:In discussing questions of this kind two rules are to be observed, as Augustine teaches. The first is, to hold to the truth of Scripture without wavering. The second is that since Holy Scripture can be explained in a multiplicity of senses, one should adhere to a particular explanation only in such measure as to be ready to abandon it if it be proved with certainty to be false, lest Holy Scripture be exposed to the ridicule of unbelievers, and obstacles be placed to their believing.

Source: Summa

rossum
 
Feanor2 said:
Ah so you are a genuine scientist! Nice to have an informed and sober voice on this matter (can’t really believe it’s being discussed actually but anyway). Mail order Ph.D. That’s AWESOME!! 👍
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No, I am a Roman Catholic theologians. However, I have a strong science background, and I teach in an interdisciplinary Master’s degree program and work with physicists, chemists, biologists, paleontologists, geologists, and geneticists.

I participated in the conference in Rome last March, which was a high-level discussion between 300 theologians, philosophers, scientists, and historians. Because the organizers wanted an intense and fruitful discussion that actually produced something instead of getting mired in controversy, the extremists on both ends were not invited: Young Earth and Intelligent Design creationists on the one hand, and Dawkinsian atheists on the other hand. It was a fantastic five days, and I’ll be attending the follow-up conference at Notre Dame University on November 1-3.

StAnastasia
 
TruthisBeauty7 said:
Questioner , I would Like to contact the Vatican and the Pope about this. Do you know How I can contact them. Evolution has been exposed . please watch the videos above.
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Pope Benedict has said that evolution of all life from a common ancestor is virtually certain. See Communion and Stewardship, paragraph 63.
 
But evolution is not a matter of religious faith, so what does that verse have to do with this conversation?

Why do people insist on trying to make it a religious argument? Would you also do so out of the laws of gravity or motion?
 
Feanor2 said:
My wife is a scientist (pharmacologist) so she gets a real kick out of hearing about this Creationism/ID silliness.
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Your wife must run up against YECs who deny that phamacologists witness the gradual evolution of multi-drug resistant organisms.
 
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