The Times Inflates Trump's Foolishness into Monstrousness

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Emeraldlady:
But what qualification does Trump have to be speculating about medical treatments? The US medical community is renowned for having created the influenza vaccine that made it’s way around the world. Why has Trump got an edge on the medical community in your opinion?
He talks to doctors, heck he’s got more professional people around him. He said himself he would take.

Why should you control it. Open it up and let the elderly decide it.
You can’t really be serious? It sounds like you are promoting survival of the fittest. Get rid of the least productive animals in the group that are a drain on our community.
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sallybutler:
BTW, why do you call it SARS instead of Coronavirus or COVID-19? Are you meaning the current disease that is causing problems around the world or do you mean the virus that caused problems in 2003? While they are somewhat related (sort of like IPA and Guinness are both beers), they are different diseases.
Come on. Are we in a SARS or Covid-19 pandemic? They are related.
We’re in a Covid-19 pandemic. I’m totally bamboozled by your argument.
 
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You can’t really be serious? It sounds like you are promoting survival of the fittest. Get rid of the least productive animals in the group that are a drain on our community
No I am promoting their right to think for themselves with their doctor to help try a drug treament.

Let’s just say you are a very sick elderly person and the doctor tells you you have 2 days to live but there is a new controversial treatment that may or may not work, may even kill you. Would you try it?

I think they should have that right to decide.
 
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The press’ behavior toward Republicans over the past 30 years have shown that Republican Presidents who take your approach are constantly slandered and smeared by the mainstream media.
That’s why they had El Rushbo and Fox et al to more than counter the “mainstreams.” It seems like a lot more than 30 years.
 
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Emeraldlady:
You can’t really be serious? It sounds like you are promoting survival of the fittest. Get rid of the least productive animals in the group that are a drain on our community
No I am promoting their right to think for themselves with their doctor to help try a drug treament.

Let’s just say you are a very sick elderly person and the doctor tells you you have 2 days to live but there is a new controversial treatment that may or may not work, may even kill you. Would you try it?

I think they should have that right to decide.
I’m still confused about how this relates to Trumps qualifications to suggests medical treatments. You genuinely think that an elderly sick person should be able to get a disinfectant injection outside of the guardianship of the CDC and the FDA?
 
I’m still confused about how this relates to Trumps qualifications to suggests medical treatments. You genuinely think that an elderly sick person should be able to get a disinfectant injection outside of the guardianship of the CDC and the FDA?
Let;s not deflect. We are talking two treatment blood plasma and Hydroxychloroquine.
 
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Emeraldlady:
I’m still confused about how this relates to Trumps qualifications to suggests medical treatments. You genuinely think that an elderly sick person should be able to get a disinfectant injection outside of the guardianship of the CDC and the FDA?
Let;s not deflect. We are talking two treatment blood plasma and Hydroxychloroquine.
You haven’t answered who are stopping those?
 
Come on. Are we in a SARS or Covid-19 pandemic? They are related.
I don’t put my pants on my arms, or blouses on my legs, even though arms and legs are limbs.

Different diseases/syndromes are given different names because they have different causes and different solutions. Just like arms have different purposes then legs. Calling them by the incorrect names leads to incorrect solutions.
 
You haven’t answered who are stopping those?
They are being stopped. Once he mentioned we should look at Hydroxychloroquine the media went haywire. “He’s not a doctor”. They shut down any dialogue whatsoever.
 
and let the elderly decide it.
Honest question: Say a foreign country like Canada or Germany has convinced half of the world that its vaccine is the most optimal. Say Trump bans it. Would you still think the elderly should have the decision to use it?
 
I don’t put my pants on my arms, or blouses on my legs, even though arms and legs are limbs.

Different diseases/syndromes are given different names because they have different causes and different solutions. Just like arms have different purposes then legs. Calling them by the incorrect names leads to incorrect solutions
Remember it is called SARS Covid 19 and I think you well knew I was referring to the current virus not something 17 years ago but will use the term for our discussion.
 
Honest question: Say a foreign country like Canada or Germany has convinced half of the world that its vaccine is the most optimal. Say Trump bans it. Would you still think the elderly should have the decision to use it?
Yes I would. I personally think when you have 2 days to live, that decision needs to be yours and your family.

I don’t think he would do that and I’d be very, very disappointed if he did that.
 
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Thank you. It was a hypothetical question but the possibility may very well exist. After all 184 countries are affected by the virus.
 
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Emeraldlady:
You haven’t answered who are stopping those?
They are being stopped. Once he mentioned we should look at Hydroxychloroquine the media went haywire. “He’s not a doctor”. They shut down any dialogue whatsoever.
So you think the media dictates to the medical community what drugs are trialed and how they are tested? You’re argument is nonsensical but you seem to be committed to it without question or examination.
 
So you think the media dictates to the medical community what drugs are trialed and how they are tested? **You’re argument is nonsensical but you seem to be committed to it without question or examination.
They have a lot of influence by creating hysteria. They can shut down dialogue and that to me is what they did. This is the first time we have had a deadly virus where we were all locked up.

The FDA can bend and push when it wants to.
 
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Yes they PEEP driving O2 INTO THE LUNGS. Your face in the end blows up round. ( Try to imagine Dizzy Gilespie)
I will stop here
 
“I think people should [take hydroxychloroquine],” Trump told reporters at a White House press briefing on Saturday. “If it were me, in fact, I might do it anyway. I may take it … I have to ask my doctors about that. But I may take it.”
Site your source, please, and not the New York Times, which falsely quoted Trump.
 
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Outside the US we’ve been totally shocked by Trumps baiting and taunting and criticising of the New York governor. It isn’t editorialising. It’s actual video and tweets from Trumps very mouth. You’d have to be seriously blinkered to think that kind of carryon is worthy of a national leader.
again, I DON’T think it is what we should have in a national leader. However I would suggest you are likely only seeing ONE side of that story. Cuomo has also baited, taunted and criticized the President. In the past, these baits/taunts/criticisms were done in a gentlemanly manner, and there was a (reasonably) fair press to moderate between them. Those times are gone.

For example: I don’t know if this is true, but I’ve heard of an English statesman being asked about a possible affair he was having, and his answer was “There are some questions a gentlemen doesn’t answer, and some questions a gentlemen doesn’t ask”. Well, here in America, the Democrat gentlemen don’t have to answer to such questions (aka Biden today), meanwhile the Democrat press will report as true any such allegation against Republicans as the Gods-honest-truth (aka Kavanaugh).

(If this statement triggers someone’s sensitivities to the point where they want to report this post, then please accept my apologies as I am trying to not offend but rather have a civil dialogue, so please be adult enough to PM me about how/why I was so insensitive to you and or violated the TOS).
Everytime he tweets it is to taunt or bait someone or other. Why does he keep on doing that? Is he addicted to drama or something? Doesn’t that sense of responsibility to the welfare of his country come into play as it has in every other country? Could he be so shallow that he keeps doing that baiting thing because he is defended for every outrageous thing he comes up with? Where is the demand for a true leadership among his followers?
Not everytime, but your point stands that it is far too often.

Why does he keep doing that? Well, in my opinion he is a megalomaniac, and add in that much of the media is effectively working FOR the opposition party…he needs to take HIS megalomaniac message directly to the people instead of having his message twisted by the media.

Others have proposed that he is playing the media, having them chase their tails reporting on what he said meanwhile he gets his agenda through (judges, judges, judges, tax cuts, regulations cut, economy is booming).

(If this statement triggers someone’s sensitivities to the point where they want to report this post, then please accept my apologies as I am trying to not offend but rather have a civil dialogue, so please be adult enough to PM me about how/why I was so insensitive to you and or violated the TOS).
 
When you quoted what I wrote, it had a weird spelling. That’s what I thought you were referring to.
I was going to correct because initial post was misspelled but decided not to because it was your post and then ended up taken part of it off without realizing it. My fault. Got it.

Why did you link Minks post to me and then write.
Googled it.
 
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