Their parents must be so proud?: Controversy about Kentucky pro-life marchers DC

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Great article. Thank you for sharing.
When you’re about to make a comment, ask yourself a very simple question: “Am I doing this out of love, out of a sincere wish for the good of the person or persons I’m addressing?” If not, shut up. If it becomes clear that your comment is simply spleen-venting, scapegoating, or virtue-signalling, shut up. The internet can be a marvelous tool, and it can be a weapon used for Satanic purposes. Applying the test of love can very effectively undermine the scapegoating mechanism and drive the devil out.
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Ok. One crude joke by ONE boy. Does that deserve expulsion and threats of violence? Or the school being smeared? Nope. Teens make nasty offensive jokes. I graduated high school 2 years ago, I have first hand heard such crude nasty things. I’m not saying nasty jokes are fine, but at most he deserves a small smack to the mouth by a parent or chaperone. Or a stern warning not so say such jokes anymore. Another thing, are these boys even Covington students? I notice there are girls there, and Covington is an all-boys school.
 
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Another thing, are these boys even Covington students? I notice there are girls there, and Covington is an all-boys school
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The girl that tweeted the video states she doesn’t know who they are or if they are from Covington.
 
For the record, world peace promoter Nathan Phillips is quoted today spreading the love, man:
“The Black Israelites, they were saying some harsh things, but some of it was true, too,” Phillips said. “These young, white American kids who were being taught in their Catholic school, their doctrine, their truth, and when they found out there’s more truth out there than what they’re being taught, they were offended, they were insulted, they were scared, and that’s how they responded. One thing that I was taught in my Marine Corp training is that a scared man will kill you. And that’s what these boys were. They were scared.”
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That’s how you deescalate things. You accuse kids of wanting to murder you.
 
To be fair to Phillips, he never outright claimed he was a Vietnam Veteran himself. He claimed to be a “Vietnam Times Vet”. At the same time he has been bringing up his “Vietnam Times” service as a criticism shield nonstop, and he has never corrected any journalist who called him a Vietnam veteran. Thanks for serving Phillips. Now stop using your Corps service as a means to deflect criticism of your attempts to defame an entire high school.
 
Probably because he claimed to be a “Recon Marine” but, as far as I can tell, the last Marines left Vietnam in 1971, when he would have been 16…
 
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I am talking about the atrocious manners of these children, and the failure of their chaperones.

If you watch the full two hours, you might have a better perspective of the events of the day.
And while you see drumming and chanting as aggressive, in my experience, I see it as prayerful. Did you read the Omaha World-Herald piece?
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Clearly you have decided that prolife and conservative equals bad.
Clearly you will not back down on this idea.

But to expect high schoolers to understand how to de-escalate a situation with loud and scare strangers who are also adults?

That seems a wee bit unfair
 
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all the horrible language and anti-Catholicism
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So what do you do when some off-beat street preachers are viciously haranguing you? Respond, inflame, or walk away? What is good behavior in the face of such silliness?
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It wasn’t the kids who marched over and got in the Native Americans face.
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Mr. Phillips walked between the Black Israelites and the the mass of students and walk over to the latter, who rather than giving him the appropriate deference and an elder, stood up to him, surrounded him, and mocked him. What on earth for?
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I don’t get it either, especially from other Catholics.
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I don’t understand anyone refusing to acknowledge the shortcomings in their behavior.
 
dvdjs said:
They might not have sufficient cultural attunement to understand what this elder meant, but as their elder the group;s conduct was poor. It is that simple.
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It is that simple for you but I disagree. I think the young man, who Mr. Phillips went up to and stood in front of, acted very polite and civil.

Mr. Phillips, doing something that he, I am pretty sure knew was not part of the culture of those youth, should have spoken up and let them know what he was doing. That would have been the adult thing for him to do. There were actually other Native Americans with Mr. Phillips that could have said something also, to let them know what drumming in someone’s face means.
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it hasn’t fallen through
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Only because there are those that still are looking for a scapegoat and sadly it is these young men that are paying, with death threats and not being able to go to school and work.

Bishop Barron’s article puts it well.

 
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What was atrocious about their actions?
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As kids, they should have shown respect and backed off and shut up when approached by an adult. Period.
I might have acted that way when young. Seeking some satisfaction.
But if I did, I would be on the receiving end of, at the very least, a stern talking to from my parents.
This is an odd part fo youth culture in America, at least among some groups, that children need not defer to adults.
 
qui_est_ce . . .
Well this thread has certainly culled the credible posters for me. Lot of speculators who owe Covington Catholic an apology.
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Good analysis qui_est_ce.

Looks like a lot of nothin’ exploited by lots of fake news against a Catholic kid (probably because he had a MAGA hat on).

Tucker: Covington students smeared by media​

Jan. 21, 2019 - 9:21 - Viral video of interaction between Covington Catholic high school students and Native American Nathan Phillips leave out key details, media rushes to bash the students.
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Viral video of interaction between Covington Catholic high school students and Native American Nathan Phillips leave out key details, media rushes to bash the students.
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The media embraced this story because it provided the media's favorite villain: that red cap.
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Clearly you have decided that prolife and conservative equals bad.
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There is foundation for this accusation. I ask that you remove it.
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But to expect high schoolers to understand how to de-escalate
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I expected their chaperones to have done a better job and have clearly stated that. When asked if the mass could respond to the Black israelites, the correct answer would have been, let’s just regroup away from them.
 
From the kid himself . . .
I am the student in the video who was confronted by the Native American protestor. I arrived at the Lincoln Memorial at 4:30 p.m. I was told to be there by 5:30 p.m., when our busses were due to leave Washington for the trip back to Kentucky. We had been attending the March for Life rally, and then had split up into small groups to do sightseeing.

When we arrived, we noticed four African American protestors who were also on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. I am not sure what they were protesting, and I did not interact with them. I did hear them direct derogatory insults at our school group.

The protestors said hateful things. They called us “racists,” “bigots,” “white crackers,” “faggots,” and “incest kids.” They also taunted an African American student from my school by telling him that we would “harvest his organs.” I have no idea what that insult means, but it was startling to hear.

Because we were being loudly attacked and taunted in public, a student in our group asked one of our teacher chaperones for permission to begin our school spirit chants to counter the hateful things that were being shouted at our group. The chants are commonly used at sporting events.

They are all positive in nature and sound like what you would hear at any high school. Our chaperone gave us permission to use our school chants. We would not have done that without obtaining permission from the adults in charge of our group.

At no time did I hear any student chant anything other than the school spirit chants. I did not witness or hear any students chant “build that wall” or anything hateful or racist at any time. Assertions to the contrary are simply false. Our chants were loud because we wanted to drown out the hateful comments that were being shouted at us by the protestors.

After a few minutes of chanting, the Native American protestors, who I hadn’t previously noticed, approached our group. The Native American protestors had drums and were accompanied by at least one person with a camera.

The protestor everyone has seen in the video began playing his drum as he waded into the crowd, which parted for him. I did not see anyone try to block his path. He locked eyes with me and approached me, coming within inches of my face. He played his drum the entire time he was in my face.

I never interacted with this protestor. I did not speak to him. I did not make any hand gestures or other aggressive moves. To be honest, I was startled and confused as to why he had approached me. We had already been yelled at by another group of protestors, and when the second group approached I was worried that a situation was getting out of control where adults were attempting to provoke teenagers.

I believed that by remaining motionless and calm, I was helping to diffuse [sic] the situation. I realized everyone had cameras and that perhaps a group of adults was trying to provoke a group of teenagers into a larger conflict. I said a silent prayer that the situation would not get out of hand. . . .
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During the period of the drumming, a member of the protestor’s entourage began yelling at a fellow student that we “stole our land” and that we should “go back to Europe.” I heard one of my fellow students begin to respond. I motioned to my classmate and tried to get him to stop engaging with the protestor, as I was still in the mindset that we needed to calm down tensions.

I never felt like I was blocking the Native American protestor. He did not make any attempt to go around me. It was clear to me that he had singled me out for a confrontation, although I am not sure why.

The engagement ended when one of our teachers told me the busses had arrived and it was time to go. I obeyed my teacher and simply walked to the busses. At that moment, I thought I had diffused [sic] the situation by remaining calm, and I was thankful nothing physical had occurred.

I never understood why either of the two groups of protestors were engaging with us, or exactly what they were protesting at the Lincoln Memorial. We were simply there to meet a bus, not become central players in a media spectacle. This is the first time in my life I’ve ever encountered any sort of public protest, let alone this kind of confrontation or demonstration.

I was not intentionally making faces at the protestor. I did smile at one point because I wanted him to know that I was not going to become angry, intimidated or be provoked into a larger confrontation. I am a faithful Christian and practicing Catholic, and I always try to live up to the ideals my faith teaches me – to remain respectful of others, and to take no action that would lead to conflict or violence.

I harbor no ill will for this person. I respect this person’s right to protest and engage in free speech activities, and I support his chanting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial any day of the week. I believe he should re-think his tactics of invading the personal space of others, but that is his choice to make.

I am being called every name in the book, including a racist, and I will not stand for this mob-like character assassination of my family’s name. My parents were not on the trip, and I strive to represent my family in a respectful way in all public settings.

I have received physical and death threats via social media, as well as hateful insults. One person threatened to harm me at school, and one person claims to live in my neighborhood. My parents are receiving death and professional threats because of the social media mob that has formed over this issue.

I love my school, my teachers and my classmates. I work hard to achieve good grades and to participate in several extracurricular activities. I am mortified that so many people have come to believe something that did not happen – that students from my school were chanting or acting in a racist fashion toward African Americans or Native Americans. I did not do that, do not have hateful feelings in my heart, and did not witness any of my classmates doing that. . .
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