They’re coming for the Knights of Columbus

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Thom18 said:
The Knights have become an international fraternity, but in the beginning it was a strictly American one. Catholics at the time of its founding were still discriminated against and being accused of being un-American, and so the decision to make Columbus our namesake was largely in part to establish our American selves in relation to Christopher’s own Catholicity.
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Thanks for that. It clears some things up. Why is it an international organisation then? It seems to be linked with American patriotism, then, which I understand given the context you gave.
 
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Thom18:
The Knights have become an international fraternity, but in the beginning it was a strictly American one. Catholics at the time of its founding were still discriminated against and being accused of being un-American, and so the decision to make Columbus our namesake was largely in part to establish our American selves in relation to Christopher’s own Catholicity.
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Thanks for that. It clears some things up. Why is it an international organisation then? It seems to be linked with American patriotism, then, which I understand given the context you gave.
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I’m not sure how it works outside of the US. All of our core principles: charity, unity, fraternity and patriotism, are observed by Knights worldwide, but those outside the US observe patriotism to their particular nation. Like Americans, they recognize the good in it, wish to improve it if they can, and look to Catholic citizens before them as role models for forming these principles in themselves.
 
This bashing and defacing of businesses, statues, streets and lives patterns after recent Muslim protests and destruction of western Christianity and culture in other countries.
There simply is no other explanation for this widespread domestic terrorism flaming the US at this time.
Racism isn’t a plausible cause. ‘Racism’ is the mask.
Ignorant mobs in various towns and cities are the vehicles.
 
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I find myself disagreeing with you. I don’t think the pagans who are in increasing control of the country (and not just this country) think any better of Islam than they do of Christianity. Islam is just a convenient tool at present to harass and suppress Christianity. But Islam will have its turn.
 
These pagans will be the first to convert to Islam.
Yes, Islam will have its turn eventually.
 
We are heading towards dark times where no one will be able to say anything, and rights will be eliminated completely. Be prepared my friends, spiritually and otherwise. We have the right ingredients in the US to have a second civil war and it’s scary to think this could even be a possible possibility…
 
JoeFreedom said:
We are heading towards dark times where no one will be able to say anything,
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I think we’re there now. This site is hopefully secure for now. But half the stuff said in here that isn’t sufficiently “woke” could get you hurt on the street.
 
JoeFreedom said:
One thing to remember is we should never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever give in to the mob. Give an inch, they’ll take a mile. And it will not stop on things that might seem “racist” but whatever flighty thing is the “it” thing to mob against next.
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You shouldn’t pay attention to them in the first place because it dies down faster.
 
I disagree. We are letting them to do whatever they want. They more they see that there are ZERO consequences, the more emboldened they will get, the stronger they will become and the more damage they will do. Our leaders need to do something and stop them. NOW.
 
JoeFreedom said:
They more they see that there are ZERO consequences, the more emboldened they will get, the stronger they will become and the more damage they will do. Our leaders need to do something and stop them. NOW.
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I wouldn’t count on that happening.
 
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RolandThompsonGunner said:
What if you’re changing it because Columbus was genuinely not a great guy and not someone we want associated with a Catholic organization?
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If the KofC genuinely believed so, they would have changed it long ago. To change the name now would be to cave in to the demands of a mob in an attempt to placate them. And the mob will never be appeased.
 
C.Ray said:
If the KofC genuinely believed so, they would have changed it long ago. To change the name now would be to cave in to the demands of a mob in an attempt to placate them. And the mob will never be appeased.
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Depends how you see a mob?
Is the mob wrong? If not then why not capitulate? After how many thousands of years of uprisings of various types have we not learned mobs don’t form because everything is okay? Maybe we should stop looking at them as sencesless beasts and say "okay, they got so hopping mad they formed a mob. How did we let it get too this?

Is mob mentality a problem? Sure but again; Mobs don’t just spring out of holes in the ground.
 
Anrakyr said:
Mobs don’t just spring out of holes in the ground.
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What we have in 2020 is not natural mobs springing up spontaneously, like the old days. Re the older mobs, one might say, “they may be a little rude and crude, but there must be some truth here, some just grievance.”

These today are artificial mobs, generated by the media, literally feeding back to the media. In my city there was a carnival atmosphere with looters, alongside the demonizing of police officers.

Whether there is a righteous core to their rage is beside their point, the rage, and carnival, is on momentum of their own.
 
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It’s interesting to see the extent to which mobs are coordinated and the flames of outrage are fanned on social media. It has been well-documented in repressed countries such as Ukraine and Iran, how social media foments rebellion against unjust forces. Similarly, #BLM began entirely on Twitter as a hashtag. These groups are using social media (or should I say that they are being used by social media?) and the bulk of coordination and communication is happening online, publicly through Twitter and Facebook, and privately through whatever encrypted apps are the rage now. And I do mean rage.

In the old days it used to be difficult and cumbersome to coordinate large groups, through telephone or radio; nowadays every single person carries a radio, telephone, and computer in their back pocket, and the infrastructure to connect them to the masses is resilient and robust.

Iran, China, and other states have shut off Internet access in times of crisis; I wonder when that level of control will come to these United States and be in the hands of governments who have been brought to their knees by well-armed and highly-motivated mobs who are bored with tearing down statues and looting Best Buy.
 
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With so many people, names, places, etc. now being offensive and going in and out of favor so darn quickly, it’s hard to keep up. Why not make it easy and just rename yourselves The Knights of What’s Happening Now? 😏
 
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