Thoughts on Marijuana Legalization?

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I have a cousin who is a heroin addict. I’ve had several friends die of over doses. I live in one of the most heroin ridden parts of the country, I see it every day. My opinion remains the same.
 
I don’t have a strong opinion, as both sides are valid. I guess I lean toward decriminalization, but not legalization, not just for marijuana, but for all drug possession. I think we all know what we are doing now is an abysmal failure. We should look to solutions from other countries.
 
I know several people who use medical marijuana and they have benefited from it enormously. One woman uses it to suppress her multiple sclerosis. She said it’s the only thing that works. Another woman uses cannabis oil (RSO) to kill her breast cancer, and the last time I spoke with her, it was working very well. A man I know uses it for sleep and chronic pain and it works better than anything he’s tried so far. And I know an elderly woman who takes CBD oil for chronic pain and she says it works well.
 
From a Salvation point of view we should not institutional sin or approve of others who do so. Do we really need to add another “approved vice” to society ?

Galations 5:20-21

the worship of false gods and sorcery; antagonisms and rivalry, jealousy, bad temper and quarrels, disagreements.

factions and malice, drunkenness, orgies and AND ALL SUCH THINGS. And about these, I tell you now as I have told you in the past, that people who behave in these ways will not inherit the kingdom of God.
 
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one can drink alcohol and not get drunk. one can occasionally smoke cigars, and not be a 3 pack a day smoker. Similarly, marijuana can be the same way. abolitionism is far different than temperence
 
Medical marijuana is extremely beneficial to my mom, who suffers from MS. Treatments for Multiple Sclerosis can be massively expensive and are often just experimental at best. She shouldn’t have to be in pain, so I’m so glad that my state legalized medical marijuana last year.

As for recreational marijuana? I’m not entirely sure. Basically everyone from my school smokes marijuana, but the thing is they tend to mix this with alcohol. It makes for a stronger high, I suppose. Teenagers don’t use it responsibly; this is coming from a teenager btw 🤣
 
No offense - - how do you know that these good effects aren’t just the placebo effect, or partially the placebo effect?
Is the woman ONLY taking cannabis oil for her breast cancer?
You anecdotes are nice but not compelling evidence.
 
Drug dealer posers finally getting their name somewhere, what a joke. The fine system makes sense for a first offense to be honest. Possession of a joint to me doesn’t equal incarceration… Punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Growing is a very complicated subject entirely. I’ve known hippies to give away a joint, and I’ve known people who practically died going to the ghetto for it. Keep it illegal for a bit and when a dealer gets busted for lacing it with crack or whatnot, publish it. That in itself will help citizens decide what they need to do on the subject. I say drones for Meth labs, I hate that about as much as I hate dog fighting.
 
Try talking to people and listen to their testimonies. Look anywhere on the internet for thousands of testimonies that marijuana works for them. Just look around. I’m not here to give “compelling evidence” to the skeptics. I’m just saying what I know and what a whole lot of other people know.
 
My opinion? We are doomed by the growing culture of individualism, consumerism, pleasure-seeking, and self-absorption. The abuse of alcohol, all uses of tobacco, and recreational weed are all part of it. I am afraid it’s going to get worse before it gets better.
 
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Yeah, well, there’s a difference between testimonies (i.e. anecdotal evidence) and actual scientific studies. If you are talking about a medication, usually there are published scientific studies, not just anecdotal evidence.
Just curious, does your friend ONLY take cannabis oil for her cancer?
 
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Medical marijuana is extremely beneficial to my mom, who suffers from MS. Treatments for Multiple Sclerosis can be massively expensive and are often just experimental at best. She shouldn’t have to be in pain, so I’m so glad that my state legalized medical marijuana last year.
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Exactly. My friend with MS says when she can’t swallow, marijuana is the only thing that helps her.
 
FWIW, I think legalization or at least significant decriminalization is inevitable whether we like it or not. Medical use is already legal in 29 states. Recreational is already legal in 10 states. Twelve more states will consider one or the other, or both, this year. The federal position will change. Marijuana is Schedule I now. They will probably just start changing the schedule on it. They don’t even need legislation for that. It will go Schedule II, then III, etc. It probably belongs around Schedule IV, with codeine.
 
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Yeah, well, there’s a difference between testimonies (i.e. anecdotal evidence) and actual scientific studies. If you are talking about a medication, usually there are published scientific studies, not just anecdotal evidence.

Just curious, does your friend ONLY take cannabis oil for her cancer?
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OK, first - marijuana is a schedule 1 drug. The government makes it very difficult to study it.

Second - I never meant to imply that my friend with cancer is only using RSO. But she is using it in addition to chemo. Her doctors were shocked at the response. The cancelled their planned surgeries and radiation. They did not expect the chemo to work that well. It was only meant to be a stop-gap. She sailed right through her treatments and never told them about the cannabis oil.

If you are interested, read this from the National Cancer Institute’s website:
Antitumor activity
  • Studies in mice and rats have shown that cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow. Laboratory and animal studies have shown that cannabinoids may be able to kill cancer cells while protecting normal cells.
  • A study in mice showed that cannabinoids may protect against inflammation of the colon and may have potential in reducing the risk of colon cancer, and possibly in its treatment.
  • A laboratory study of delta-9-THC in hepatocellular carcinoma (liver cancer) cells showed that it damaged or killed the cancer cells. The same study of delta-9-THC in mouse models of liver cancer showed that it had antitumor effects. Delta-9-THC has been shown to cause these effects by acting on molecules that may also be found in non-small cell lung cancer cells and breast cancer cells.
  • A laboratory study of cannabidiol (CBD) in estrogen receptor positive and estrogen receptor negative breast cancer cells showed that it caused cancer cell death while having little effect on normal breast cells. Studies in mouse models of metastatic breast cancer showed that cannabinoids may lessen the growth, number, and spread of tumors.
  • A review of 34 studies of cannabinoids in glioma tumor models found that all but one study showed that cannabinoids can kill cancer cells without harming normal cells.
  • A laboratory study of cannabidiol (CBD) in human glioma cells showed that when given along with chemotherapy, CBD may make chemotherapy more effective and increase cancer cell death without harming normal cells. Studies in mouse models of cancer showed that CBD together with delta-9-THC may make chemotherapy such as temozolomide more effective.
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A Mortal sin as per Catechism 22.91 if not used for medical purpose

2291 The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health and life. Their use, except on strictly therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct co-operation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law.
 
I’m for limited government and full decriminlization of all drugs. I don’t think the government should be trying to control drug use.
 
i don’t smoke pot; but i think that is come to the point where the state treasuries need the potential revenues off legal marijuana sales

marijuana is not a healthy habit; nor is alcohol

but the individual US states make plenty of tax revenue from sales of these items
 
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A Mortal sin as per Catechism 22.91 if not used for medical purpose

2291 The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health and life. Their use, except on strictly therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct co-operation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law.
 
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