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Axsenex
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If I want to work in public service then no reason for me to use it. If they want to use it… not my problem.
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brian_custer
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wake up & smell the coffee, guy;
what happens when marijuana sale & useage is no longer illegal in most, if not every US state
and again; I DON’T SMOKE POT (for pure point of reference)
what happens when marijuana sale & useage is no longer illegal in most, if not every US state
and again; I DON’T SMOKE POT (for pure point of reference)
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ATraveller
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Throughout all of the ‘debates’ (if one can even call most of them that), the negative aspects of marijuana are downplayed and the benefits are hyped or exaggerated. Pain management and the like are substantiated but as a cure to anything, the evidence is inconclusive and it’s downright dishonest to sell it as such at this stage as many propagandists have done through the media.
The potential danger to mental health is real. The body of evidence for that is growing. This is always dismissed despite the evidence.
The problem with the idea that legalizing it will reduce usage is that it requires social stigma. That doesn’t really exist when the entertainment industry glorifies it and when the propagandists make up supposed benefits. People fool themselves if they believe that the entertainment industry doesn’t shape society in profound ways.
If the ‘evidence-based’ policymakers (rarely ever living up to what they claim to be), they would wait and see. Instead, they ram it and do it as fast as they can. Why? It’s about the money. They can make billions and especially for the political donors.
The potential danger to mental health is real. The body of evidence for that is growing. This is always dismissed despite the evidence.
The problem with the idea that legalizing it will reduce usage is that it requires social stigma. That doesn’t really exist when the entertainment industry glorifies it and when the propagandists make up supposed benefits. People fool themselves if they believe that the entertainment industry doesn’t shape society in profound ways.
If the ‘evidence-based’ policymakers (rarely ever living up to what they claim to be), they would wait and see. Instead, they ram it and do it as fast as they can. Why? It’s about the money. They can make billions and especially for the political donors.
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brian_custer
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i think the purely revenue driven, tax affixing, money-sucking near bankruptcy of most US states will make marijuana useage legal in all 50 US states in the very near future
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Roseeurekacross
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whats the average THC level in USA
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Mary888
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I never smoked marijuana and based on what my colleagues who did told me is school what it felt like I never will. They liked it and said it made them happier for sure but most of them could not remember anything they thought,said or done while they were under the drug. Maybe with regular use this no longer happens but the idea that I would have complete blackout really scares me. It must doing something to the brain. …
But for medical purposes that is another question. If I needed it I probably would take it. But if I don’t …no… I still think it’s a dangerous drug but I see the problem with the war on drugs that simply does not work.
But for medical purposes that is another question. If I needed it I probably would take it. But if I don’t …no… I still think it’s a dangerous drug but I see the problem with the war on drugs that simply does not work.
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stupidisasstupiddoes
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Self contradictory. Even the most limited government is charged with law and order. Drugs are contrary to that and the evidence of the crime and misery they bring is overwhelmingly. No it wouldn’t all magically disappear if they were legalised and the price came down. The truth is most hard drug users are using them to mask emotional pain rather than dealing with the underlying issue. That’s why no good ever comes out of using them because drugs are never the answer to that problem.
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Loud-living-dogma
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Okay – wow. Those results are very impressive. It would be interesting if it ever does get studied for real. Thank you very much for your detailed answer. Best wishes for her continued recovery.
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JanSobieskiIII
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Not disagreeing with you. If we lived under a Catholic Monarch or some other government that’s law was rooted in Catholicism or if it was a state religion that would be an argument.
However, in the US, that is not the case. The US is a secular government that derives it’s powers from the consent of the governed. If the governed want things legalized and can get enough popular support, that is what it will be.
However, in the US, that is not the case. The US is a secular government that derives it’s powers from the consent of the governed. If the governed want things legalized and can get enough popular support, that is what it will be.
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Maximilian75
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but are theraputic purposes limited to medical situations?
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redbaron162
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Every doctor and medical provider I have personally spoken to has nothing good to say about Marijuana. Any possible effect is taken advantage of using non-psychotropic cannabis oil. (Which is legal in my state) However people don’t want the non-psychotropic oil because it doesn’t make you high so almost no one uses it. So that being the case I don’t buy the medical approach at all.
Besides that point Marijuana from a moral and economic viewpoint is horrible. In case you didn’t know a Christian is no more able to morally get high than they are to get drunk. Unlike alcohol where you can enjoy a beer or two without getting inhibited when you smoke a joint your going to get high…so no legitimate use in my opinion
I do, however, think that the situation should be looked at in a way to reduce the impact on law enforcement resources. Keep drug possession offenses as a ticket offense and destroy the drugs instead of filling up the jails and draining resources.
Besides that point Marijuana from a moral and economic viewpoint is horrible. In case you didn’t know a Christian is no more able to morally get high than they are to get drunk. Unlike alcohol where you can enjoy a beer or two without getting inhibited when you smoke a joint your going to get high…so no legitimate use in my opinion
I do, however, think that the situation should be looked at in a way to reduce the impact on law enforcement resources. Keep drug possession offenses as a ticket offense and destroy the drugs instead of filling up the jails and draining resources.
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jfz178
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I mostly agree with your argument, but I do have one counterpoint. Doctors and the medical establishment are traditionally against anything they don’t control. That is long standing. You put it in a pill, in a plastic bottle and let them prescribe it, then, and only then, will they even look at the scientific evidence.
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chieft
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I don’t make the Rules for Catholics. Not all of them are a question of convenience, or legality according to state/ national law. Catholic rules are to protect and increase our Sanctifying Grace.
Smelling coffee, however delightful, changes nothing.
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DeepDeepTrouble3
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I am for full decriminalization on all drugs, full legalization of cannabis, all judged vis a vis wine, which is how the Church judges the morality of drugs. We have wine in the central part of our daily worship. We are not puritans.
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DeepDeepTrouble3
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I think Portugal has a step in the right direction with its treatment of substances. And release all incarcerated persons for cannabis. I believe jailing people for cannabis is one of the greatest modern injustices of our day.
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exnihilo
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It isn’t self contradictory. It is my opinion on the best form or use of government. People use all sorts of things to mask emotional pain. That isn’t the only reason people use drugs either.
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stupidisasstupiddoes
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You can’t use ‘limited government’ as an arguement for an issue of law and order. You’re describing anarchy. Even the most libertarian thinkers agree on a government for law and order, justice and defence.
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edwest211
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The government makes it difficult to study? The worst pathogen out there can be studied but not this? Nonsense.
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michaelArc
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Canada will be moving towards legalizing recreational marijuana and I support it.
A federal statistics agency estimated Canadians consumed an estimated C $5bn to C $6.2bn worth of marijuana in 2015. Canadians spend about C $7bn a year on wine. Marijuana is the most commonly used illegal drug in Canada. Almost 60% of drug offences in the country in 2016 were cannabis-related.
I’ve had discussions with a former prominent dealer who loved to ramble on about the industry. He openly admits that all major cannabis production is linked to criminal activity and you would be naive to think otherwise. It goes to support gang activity where large shipments go south of the border and guns return north of the border.
Currently the proposed legislation would allow the federal government to license producers, but provinces would be in charge of regulating consumer sale while generating billions that would otherwise gone into the hands of criminals. Let’s not forget the tremendous amount of time and resources allocated to law enforcement agencies that could be better use elsewhere.
Former Toronto police chief Julian Fantino who was “completely opposed” to marijuana legalisation
now supports it. Along with former RCMP deputy commissioner Raf Souccar opened up Aleafia, a “health network” that helps patients access medical cannabis. He had a change of heart when he met ex-soldiers who relied on it.
The industry will change. In fact, many ex-cops are being sought after by licensed producers since they have the security experience who can get clearances and understand Canadian drug laws. Seedy little head shops will be a thing of the past when corporatism takes over and the image of cannabis will take on a new form.
I won’t dismiss that it’s a gateway drug and I won’t dismiss the harmful effects under certain circumstances. Yes an overwhelming majority of people who use it now don’t need it for medical purposes. IMHO there are just too many pros against the cons in not legalizing marijuana which would otherwise just leave it in a lose-lose situation.
A federal statistics agency estimated Canadians consumed an estimated C $5bn to C $6.2bn worth of marijuana in 2015. Canadians spend about C $7bn a year on wine. Marijuana is the most commonly used illegal drug in Canada. Almost 60% of drug offences in the country in 2016 were cannabis-related.
I’ve had discussions with a former prominent dealer who loved to ramble on about the industry. He openly admits that all major cannabis production is linked to criminal activity and you would be naive to think otherwise. It goes to support gang activity where large shipments go south of the border and guns return north of the border.
Currently the proposed legislation would allow the federal government to license producers, but provinces would be in charge of regulating consumer sale while generating billions that would otherwise gone into the hands of criminals. Let’s not forget the tremendous amount of time and resources allocated to law enforcement agencies that could be better use elsewhere.
Former Toronto police chief Julian Fantino who was “completely opposed” to marijuana legalisation
now supports it. Along with former RCMP deputy commissioner Raf Souccar opened up Aleafia, a “health network” that helps patients access medical cannabis. He had a change of heart when he met ex-soldiers who relied on it.
The industry will change. In fact, many ex-cops are being sought after by licensed producers since they have the security experience who can get clearances and understand Canadian drug laws. Seedy little head shops will be a thing of the past when corporatism takes over and the image of cannabis will take on a new form.
I won’t dismiss that it’s a gateway drug and I won’t dismiss the harmful effects under certain circumstances. Yes an overwhelming majority of people who use it now don’t need it for medical purposes. IMHO there are just too many pros against the cons in not legalizing marijuana which would otherwise just leave it in a lose-lose situation.
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