Thousands protest Wisconsin anti-union bill

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Is the the thread where an out of control mob of protesters is screaming about demanding democracy?
 
Looks like negotiations are over
Sorry, apologies, yesterday the governor was toast.

Today, he’s not toast.

Yesterday, there were out of town visitors demanding the governor capitulate.

Today, Janet Napolitano is writing letters about rightwing extremism about people who reject Federal authority in favor of state legislatures.

So, I guess the governor is a rightwing extremist, unless it is the thousands of protesters demanding democracy and demanding the elected government capitulate to the mob. [Would that be mobocracy?]

I’m confused.
 
death threats have begun pouring into the state capitol, aimed at Republicans. Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald released the text of one through spokesman Andrew Wellhouse that threatened to “assault” several elected Republican officials at their homes:“We have received several more threats over the past few weeks as well, and protesters have actually gone so far as to go up to (Fitzgerald’s) house and bang on the windows at 6 a.m. demanding that he come out,” Welhouse said.

Tim Donovan, a spokesman for the Department of Administration and Capitol Police, had no immediate comment Thursday morning.
Here’s an excerpt of the email provided by Welhouse:

“This is how it’s going to happen: I as well as many others know where you and your family live, it’s a matter of public records. We have all planned to assault (sic) you by arriving at your house and putting a nice little bullet in your head. However, this isn’t enough. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the message. So we have built several bombs that we have placed in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent…”
 
Apparently the out-of-state mobocracy left their home state posters behind in the mess inside the capitol building.

So, it is probably pretty certain that the “thousands” of protesters were ringers … a ringer is a fake, or a hired hand whose paid job it is to act enraged. ]
 
death threats have begun pouring into the state capitol, aimed at Republicans. Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald released the text of one through spokesman Andrew Wellhouse that threatened to “assault” several elected Republican officials at their homes:“We have received several more threats over the past few weeks as well, and protesters have actually gone so far as to go up to (Fitzgerald’s) house and bang on the windows at 6 a.m. demanding that he come out,” Welhouse said.

Tim Donovan, a spokesman for the Department of Administration and Capitol Police, had no immediate comment Thursday morning.
Here’s an excerpt of the email provided by Welhouse:

“This is how it’s going to happen: I as well as many others know where you and your family live, it’s a matter of public records. We have all planned to assault (sic) you by arriving at your house and putting a nice little bullet in your head. However, this isn’t enough. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the message. So we have built several bombs that we have placed in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent…”
j-u-s-t-k-i-d-d-i-n-g …

besides even as we speak there is a white house anti-bullying seminar going on.
 
death threats have begun pouring into the state capitol, aimed at Republicans. Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald released the text of one through spokesman Andrew Wellhouse that threatened to “assault” several elected Republican officials at their homes:“We have received several more threats over the past few weeks as well, and protesters have actually gone so far as to go up to (Fitzgerald’s) house and bang on the windows at 6 a.m. demanding that he come out,” Welhouse said.

Tim Donovan, a spokesman for the Department of Administration and Capitol Police, had no immediate comment Thursday morning.
Here’s an excerpt of the email provided by Welhouse:

“This is how it’s going to happen: I as well as many others know where you and your family live, it’s a matter of public records. We have all planned to assault (sic) you by arriving at your house and putting a nice little bullet in your head. However, this isn’t enough. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the message. So we have built several bombs that we have placed in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent…”
but isn’t that the definition of democracy?
 
The right of workers to organize into unions is part of Catholic social doctrine. When the secular state aims to destroy a union, it acts counter to Church teaching. Such state action needs to be protested…vigorously.

Pope John Paul II, in his encyclical Centesimus annus stated…

“The theological dimension is needed both for interpreting and for solving
present day problems in human society”.

meaning that Church social doctrine is a matter of faith; Catholics are bound to believe that teaching.
But Pope John Paul II was referring to states which outlawed unions altogether in a Soviet style communist totalitarian form of government, not were freely elected officials outlawed collective bargaining by state employees.

Jim
 
Sorry, apologies, yesterday the governor was toast.

Today, he’s not toast.

Yesterday, there were out of town visitors demanding the governor capitulate.

Today, Janet Napolitano is writing letters about rightwing extremism about people who reject Federal authority in favor of state legislatures.

So, I guess the governor is a rightwing extremist, unless it is the thousands of protesters demanding democracy and demanding the elected government capitulate to the mob. [Would that be mobocracy?]

I’m confused.
He’s still toast. Along with at least eight of his fellow repubs. Also, We’ll have to see what the courts decide as to the legality of Walkers actions.

ATB
 
He’s still toast. Along with at least eight of his fellow repubs. Also, We’ll have to see what the courts decide as to the legality of Walkers actions.

ATB
I’ll bet that if labor wins, the Republicans will whinge about “activist judges.”
 
He’s still toast. Along with at least eight of his fellow repubs. Also, We’ll have to see what the courts decide as to the legality of Walkers actions.

ATB
Yeah, union mouthpieces claimed similar about Mitch Daniels. He’s since won re-election.

Time’s up. The people have spoken. The gravy train is ending.😃
 
I’ll bet that if labor wins, the Republicans will whinge about “activist judges.”
Republicans never support judicial activism, without or without the scare quotes. I find it ironic that Democrats do, since the will of the majority is at the heart of democracy.
 
The Wisconsin Bishops are NEUTRAL on this issue. That is because it involves conflicting rights: unions vs. taxpayers.

If Walker was attempting to disband the unions, they would be opposed. But the fact is that the union powers are simply being limited. They still have collective bargaining for compensation.

The bishops also recognize that the taxpayers have a right to limit the economic burden that the government imposes. A large part of this is (union) labor costs.

Very few of the posters here live in Wisconsin (as do I). Please do your homework. You can Google “Madison Catholic Herald” or any of the diocesan newpapers.

A final thought: if the Church taught that the right to unionize was universal (which it is not), why would the Church not allow its’ employees to unionize?
 
Republicans never support judicial activism, without or without the scare quotes. I find it ironic that Democrats do, since the will of the majority is at the heart of democracy.
As Roe v Wade is effectively settled law, it’ll mean judicial activism if it gets overturned. I think the GOP will be for activism then!
 
As Roe v Wade is effectively settled law, it’ll mean judicial activism if it gets overturned. I think the GOP will be for activism then!
Roe v. Wade is settled case law. It was not an act of the legislature If the courts overturned it in absense of any legislative action, it would be judicial activism, yes. However, if the law was changed by the legislative branch or by act of amendment, then it is not judicial activism. Elected representatives are elected to represent. It is not activism when they perform their primary function. It is the legislature that should legislate.
 
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