You are simply repeating what I said. He is always, but always, implicitly included in anything that is posted. Even I do so. How can I not when discussing matters with Catholics?Oh my. This is Catholic Answers after all. God must be included.
From a theological perspective, to be sure. From a scientific perspective, no.Oh my. This is Catholic Answers after all. God must be included. People do quote Popes but only when they say something agreeable. If not, they are called uneducated. Strange that.
How would one include God in any scientific discussion. If I’m investigating a murder. I have a body with a bullet in it, I have a suspect with a gun and powder burns on his hand, I have witnesses who saw the man shoot the victim. From a scientific perspective, God doesn’t come in to the equation. But how could I ever falsify the accused making the defense that God fooled the witnesses, placed the gun in his hand and put the powder burns on his hand?Oh I do. God can be included, but he can’t be included in a “scientific” discussion. I find that very odd. I’m not advocating for putting God in the science classroom, but I can’t exclude Divine Revelation. Neither can the Church which has made a number of statements.
As you already know, and have just confirmed in the other thread, Divine Revelation and the Church offer theological explanations, not scientific ones.Oh I do. God can be included, but he can’t be included in a “scientific” discussion. I find that very odd. I’m not advocating for putting God in the science classroom, but I can’t exclude Divine Revelation. Neither can the Church which has made a number of statements.
The Church has largely taken a hands off approach to science for quite some time now. Whatever you think of the Galileo Affair, the fact is that the Church set itself against Renaissance science, and created a divide between science and the Church that troubles both sides still until this day. So far as I can tell, the Church’s view is simply that science is not in conflict with faith, but leaves it up to each person to assess science.I do understand, but people here explicitly quote the Church in defense of science. You know that.
And you would have no lack of skeptics.I have some miracles I could mention.
And you selectively quote the Church as some sort of bulwark against evolution and cosmology, which it seems clear to me the Church itself has not done. The Church has voiced no opposition to Cosmology or Evolution, rather making it clear that these are valid theories, and making its theological position clear. You seem to desperately want the Church to be in opposition to these theories, and I simply don’t see that as the case at all.You may wish that to be true. I may start saving posts from people who quote the Church in defense of science.
They quote the church when the church discusses science. If the church offers a divine explanation for an event, it is no longer a scientific discussion.You may wish that to be true. I may start saving posts from people who quote the Church in defense of science.
So tell me how I test for Divine Intervention, or rather, how do I falsify Divine Intervention? Take my example of a murder. How do I falsify the claim that God manufactured the evidence against the accused?My baloney detector needle is now in the red zone. Switching off.
Sorry. Can you tell me that post number?You asked me, I answered, you never responded.
Hit ctrl+f and search for my username, that should bring up all the posts I’ve made. But I’ll make it easy for you and say 48 and 50.Sorry. Can you tell me that post number?