Timothy Gordon Fired

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I work for the Church. We very much must abide by the Diocese Social Media policy, Twitter counts 🙂
 
Theban said:
I just don’t see what this has to do with anyone’s job, though. And I don’t see why the number of people in the audience should make a difference regarding the action itself.
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It depends on whether your job is laying bricks or forming minds and spirits, does it not?
He isn’t the janitor at the school. He is a teacher.

“Example makes a much greater impression than words.” --St. John Baptiste de La Salle

As for whether he chose to say something imprudent to a small number of people in a fleeting way instead of to a vast number of people in a way that is preserved in a permanent record, one would expect that a teacher would appreciate the difference in no uncertain terms.
 
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gracepoole:
Better advice would be to stay inside, lock your doors, report any malfeasance to authorities, and permit law enforcement to do its job.
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As bricks are thrown through the window? That might be a tad naïve… Are you going to politely ask them to wait for law enforcement to show up if they barge through the doors? I’d bet a lot of money that many law enforcement would not be opposed to a little citizen help in some places. Also, the right and obligation of self defense is a Catholic doctrine. CCC 2263-5
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Did he specify that he was only speaking to those who were experiencing immediate first person violence?
 
PetraG said:
It depends on whether your job is laying bricks or forming minds and spirits, does it not?
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In my opinion it does not, and I must say I am glad to live in a country where it isn’t considered acceptable for an employer to dictate how their employees should act outside of the workplace. But we shall have to agree to disagree on this I suppose.
 
gracepoole said:
Did he specify that he was only speaking to those who were experiencing immediate first person violence?
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Self-defense can also extend to defense of your neighbor. We’re supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves, and all that.
 
Theban said:
In my opinion it does not, and I must say I am glad to live in a country where it isn’t considered acceptable for an employer to dictate how their employees should act outside of the workplace. But we shall have to agree to disagree on this I suppose.
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Which country is that?
 
In Norway.

Unless you’re working for the government it is illegal for you to be fired for something you do on your own time (with a few, specific exceptions).
 
Socrates92 said:
What Church teaching did he advocate against? He was fired for making the diocese look bad, somehow, not for a heretical statement.
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He’s made a number of statements that are inconsistent with Church teaching—calling for “mob force” is one. Stating that it is a sin for married women to work outside the home is another. And while it’s not specifically a teaching, publicly mocking a priest for his appearance certainly violated the spirit of Christianity.
 
Socrates92 said:
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gracepoole:
Did he specify that he was only speaking to those who were experiencing immediate first person violence?
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Self-defense can also extend to defense of your neighbor. We’re supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves, and all that.
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Did he specify that he was only speaking to those whose direct neighbors were experiencing immediate first person violence?

The problem is, he didn’t. He didn’t limit, quantify, or specify. Instead he simply called for mob force.
 
JulianN said:
He’s made a number of statements that are inconsistent with Church teaching—Stating that it is a sin for married women to work outside the home is another.
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If his wife raised their children at home, I have more sympathy for their current tragic situation. Particularly with a large family and a special need child with recent brain surgery.

Being an stay at home and homeschooling mother with an husband in teaching myself, I know what it is to have our provider who is at risk to loose his job every year. What harm it would done to our family. We live in anxiety many months until we know the final positive decision.
 
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JulianN said:
He’s made a number of statements that are inconsistent with Church teaching—calling for “mob force” is one. Stating that it is a sin for married women to work outside the home is another.
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As I think has already been addressed in this thread, he did not call for “mob force”. He called for force against mobs, which is perfectly defensible in the right context. On the second point, do you have the actual source so that I can check out his exact words?
 
Watch his interview with Matt Fradd on YouTube. He claims the magisterial teaching of the Church is that married women shouldn’t work.
 
He says it again — repeatedly — on Trent Horn’s podcast.
 
Just for the sake of clarity, his oldest is special needs and just had brain surgery. She does not have cancer. I can only imagine the costs of her ongoing treatment and I feel somewhat terrified on her behalf. This is yet another reason, however, that he should have made better social media choices.
 
Thanks you to correct me, I wrongly believed that had brain surgery to remoove a tumor.
Happy that she doesn’t have cancer.
 
I’m not saying that I can get to an agreement with him that a married woman working is a sin - however, when I listened to him talk about this on both Trent Horn & Matt Fradd’s shows, I can see some sense in some of his points.

Just because I don’t agree with everything that comes out of his mouth, it doesn’t mean that I should have the right to get him fired. It just seems the same should go for the parent who worked to have Tim fired.

I find that being the sole earner and having 6 children home schooled by his wife is extremely commendable.
 
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