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tru_dvotion
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Dear Word, What Jesus would like to know is how long will you stay a heretic, fallen away Catholic and a Protestant?
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Mysty101
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I deleted it—too bad you were so quick to jump on me.
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tru_dvotion
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I forgive you Mysty.
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beng
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And I’ll pray for you.
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SPOKENWORD
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Jesus said I know my sheep and my sheep know my voice. What voice are you hearing?
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tru_dvotion
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SPOKENWORD said:Jesus said I know my sheep and my sheep know my voice. What voice are you hearing?
Dear Spokenword,
It is against CA guidelines for non Catholics to harass Catholics on this Catholic forum. Please respect the guidelines. God bless.
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SPOKENWORD
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I appoligize to the board. Are Catholics exempt from this rule?
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tru_dvotion
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No, I would not think so… and I only hope something will be done soon about those who make personal attacks and encourage others to follow suit. One can disagree and argue on a topic, but a person’s integrity should never be called into question. Non Catholics have to be even more careful and respect Catholic opinion even if it is orthodox, it is Catholic nevertheless.
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SPOKENWORD
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We need to respect each other. May God help us to walk and talk in His Love.Please pray for me that I may do this.God bless
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tru_dvotion
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I pray for you, I pray for all of us. Everyone deserves our respect Word. Not only those who share our points of view. The fact we are part of CA indicates we all love God and we all try to do our best to serve him. I do not know if there is a family on this Earth that agrees on everything at all times. Of course not everyone is right, because there is only one truth. Any variation to truth is untruth. But aside from that, I cannot dislike any one of my brothers or sisters in Christ. I may disagree with their point of view, but always, always I wish the very best for each and every one of them. I will argue and defend what I believe is right, but I would not intentionally cause any personal hurt or injury to anyone. I wish people were able to debate issues rather than attack one another. It weakens their ‘cause’ and shows up how needy their cause really is. God bless.
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Mysty101
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Beng and Tru,
I am sincerely sorry for engaging in this childish behavior. Jesus did say
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Matthew 5
46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
You engaged in the slander of an approved Catholic movement with your erroneous interpretation of scriptures. You slandered many good Catholics, as well as the many Bishops and Priests (Bishop Sam Jacobs, Fr Robert DeGrandis, Fr Benedict Groeschel, etc., as well as the preacher to the Papal household).
I do call you to order, and I will not resort to name calling, but if the truth hurts that is not my fault.
Many of your posts are your own interpretation of scripture and trash.
The Pope has approved the Charismatic movement with all its Characteristics.
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Matthew 16
17Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. 18And I tell you that you are Peter,1] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades2] will not overcome it.3] 19I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be4] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be5] loosed in heaven.”
Who are you to say you know more than the Pope?**
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beng
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No problem.
I ask you time to time to find me another interpretation of 1Cor14:27-28.
I think the verse says what it says. But you think otherwise. It’s time for you to offer some proof.
I only mentioned about Fr Cantalemassa (hopefully the spelling is correct), the preacher of the Papal HOusehold. And yes, his fidelity is questionable. I have every right to say that.
What truth?
\Provide me with your interpretation of 1Cor 14:27-28. Let’s see if it fits.
As I always said, Popes had approved SSPX and heretics (Zosimus controversy). Aproval from a Pope is neither authoritative nor infallible.
Someone who read his Bible and know the Catholic faith.
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Annunciata
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Mysty101 said:
Mysty,
I guess this pretty much sums it up!
God Bless, Annunciata
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SPOKENWORD
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Thank you for keeping us in your prayers.One of the problems I see is that we come in and try to defend the work of the Holy Spirit. Some say its wrong,others say it is right.The reality is that God is in control. I believe that God reveals certain truths to His children when He sees they are ready to recieve it. I have no problem with people disagreeing,its the tone and arrogance in the way it is said. Thats what I mean whenwe are not speaking in Love. Its message is lost and has no value.I hope you see my point.We can agree to disagree but it has to be in love. God Bless.
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beng
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Mt 16:23Mysty,
I guess this pretty much sums it up!
God Bless, Annunciata
Who turning, said to Peter: Go behind me, Satan, thou art a scandal unto me: because thou savourest not the things that are of God, but the things that are of men.
Galatians 2:11-21
11 But when Cephas was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. 12 For before that some came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them who were of the circumcision. 13 And to his dissimulation the rest of the Jews consented: so that Barnabas also was led by them into that dissimulation. 14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly unto the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all: If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of the Gentiles and not as the Jews do, how dost thou compel the Gentiles to live as do the Jews? 15 We by nature are Jews: and not of the Gentiles, sinners. 16 But knowing that man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, we also believe in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by the faith of Christ and not by the works of the law: because by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified. 17 But if, while we seek to be justified in Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is Christ then the minister of sin? God forbid! 18 For if I build up again the things which I have destroyed, I make myself a prevaricator. 19 For I, through the law, am dead to the law, that I may live to God; with Christ I am nailed to the cross. 20 And I live, now not I: but Christ liveth in me. And that I live now in the flesh: I live in the faith of the Son of God, who loved me and delivered himself for me. 21 I cast not away the grace of God. For if justice be by the law, then Christ died in vain.
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tru_dvotion
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SPOKENWORD said:Thank you for keeping us in your prayers.One of the problems I see is that we come in and try to defend the work of the Holy Spirit. Some say its wrong,others say it is right.The reality is that God is in control. I believe that God reveals certain truths to His children when He sees they are ready to recieve it. I have no problem with people disagreeing,its the tone and arrogance in the way it is said. Thats what I mean whenwe are not speaking in Love. Its message is lost and has no value.I hope you see my point.We can agree to disagree but it has to be in love. God Bless.
Dear Word,
I would love to see if you were able to apply all this in each and every one of your posts from this day forward. I applaud your great resolve and I fully encourage your trying.
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SPOKENWORD
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Tru, I pray that only we will do our best. My prayer even before I come on this site, is to ask the Lord that I may speak words of kindness and gentleness.That I may respond with His Spirit which lives in me. I pray that if I cannot speak in love that my lips will be sealed.We are one body in Christ Jesus. We are united in Jesus Christ. Let us give Glory to Jesus Christ and not bring tears to His eyes. God Bless you.
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tru_dvotion
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Mysty101
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I hope this will be the last I say on this matter.
How arrogant can a person be who persists in an error of interpretation, when the Pope, and many Bishops and Priests refute?
How arrogant can a person be who persists in an error of interpretation, when the Pope, and many Bishops and Priests refute?
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Mysty101
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Tru,
Where is this infallible affirmation of your interpretation of Scripture?
And who said renewal was the Church? I (and all legitimate Charismatics) have always maintained that CCR is a movement within the Church. A style of worship, which emphesizes the Holy Spirit and His gifts --simple as well as miraculous, approved by the Church. You are free to worship as you choose, and to reject Charismatic worship,
BUT–you do not have the right to slander legitimate Catholics and clergy and the approved movement they choose to embrace.
My rejection of your interpretation is backed by the Pope’s approval of the movement, and many Bishops and priests.
Where is this infallible affirmation of your interpretation of Scripture?
And who said renewal was the Church? I (and all legitimate Charismatics) have always maintained that CCR is a movement within the Church. A style of worship, which emphesizes the Holy Spirit and His gifts --simple as well as miraculous, approved by the Church. You are free to worship as you choose, and to reject Charismatic worship,
BUT–you do not have the right to slander legitimate Catholics and clergy and the approved movement they choose to embrace.
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