Tribute to Joe Biden?

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Does anyone remember hearing Joe Biden boast that he would win the election? He was so positive of the results that he vowed to have his attorneys contest it if he did NOT win. That was waaaay too much confidence, like he knew with inside information that it was in the bag!

In Popular Media yesterday, someone posted the live hearing in PA on Voter Fraud, but I doubt anyone will notice it in that forum. It is nearly four hours long, but if anyone is interested, Pres. Trump speaks at 2:25:26 minutes for a short time. It is an eye opener how much they have uncovered.
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Peeps said:
Because we diagree with his policies
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And you have every right to disagree. But the request was to not be disagreeable or demonize while doing so. Is that really too much to ask? And before you say “well they did it”, remember the demonization and vilification of Obama, Bush 43, Clinton, etc. all the way back through history? If you want those of us who don’t hate either side to believe that your side is better, maybe try being better.
 
I don’t remember arugula.

Was Obama a fan and it bothered someone?
 
They all looked like pretty good reasons to me. Sooooo…what are you complaining about?
 
Not complaining at all. Didn’t really expect anyone to come up with a good reason and have not been surprised yet.
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whatistrue said:
And you have every right to disagree. But the request was to not be disagreeable or demonize while doing so. Is that really too much to ask? And before you say “well they did it”, remember the demonization and vilification of Obama, Bush 43, Clinton, etc. all the way back through history? If you want those of us who don’t hate either side to believe that your side is better, maybe try being better.
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So…to disagree with policies is the same as demonizing?

Honestly, whatistrue, I do not see where I demonized anyone. I strongly disagree with Democratic Party’s emphasis on the federal government as the answer to societal wrongs like poverty, homelessness, addictions, racism, joblessness, health care needs, illteracy, schools.

I believe in what the Catholic Church advocates–subsidiarity. The best solutions to our problems are close to home.

I think that the federal government should concentrate on those issues that the U.S. Constitution assigns to the federal government (e.g., raising a militia, creating and maintaining roads across the nation, etc.). The rest of the issues should be left to the states, the cities and towns, and the neighborhoods and faith communities.

If states do not respond well to the needs of their citizens, the citizens will move out, as did millions of African Americans (who left Jim Crow Southern States to move up to Detroit and other Northern cities for the many job opportunities) and as have many Illinoisians who are leaving this state by the thousands to escape from a State Constitutional Amendment that was poorly-thought out back in the 1970s and has plunged our state into “junk-bond status” and given us some of the highest tax burdens in the nation.

There is a lot of wisdom in our U.S. Constitution.
 
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puer.dei said:
Well, we keep being told here that disagreeing with Trump’s policies/actions is “hating.”
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I don’t believe I’ve said that here or anywhere, and If I did, I was very wrong to say that. Maybe others have said it, and they are wrong.

I do insist that denigrating Pres. Trump’s work for the pro-life cause is unbelievable and unacceptable for Catholics.

As far as I know, every pro-life organization in the U.S. has praised Pres. Trump’s many accomplishments on behalf of the unborn. These are front-line pro-life workers, and if they are pleased, I think it’s bizarre that those of us who are sitting in our prayer closets or writing checks to the Church’s pro-life organizations would be critical of the President’s pro-life accomplishments.

Of course, if Pres.-Elect Biden is telling the truth (which I’m sure he is on this issue), all of Pres. Trump’s good works will be undone and the unborn will be in greater danger than ever now.

The unborn will no longer be recognized as human beings under any Democratic Administration. So hopefully, all their policies designed to give better health care, better education, and more opportunities to the disenfranchised will work out well, as the reason why people choose abortion is because they are poor, lack health care, and don’t have the education and advantages needed to get a good job that pays a living wage, right? If all these human rights are available to everyone, then abortion rates will drop dramatically, right?

Interestingly, one of the largest groups of people who seek abortions are middle-upper class women who have financial security. Hmmm…

And for that matter, under the Democratic Administration, and with the good possiblity that both the House and the Senate will be under Democratic control, those who advocate for the unborn might be in danger, too, as their actions could be considered anti-women, anti-freedom of choice, and possibly even racist (depriving women of color of the opportunity to make decisions about their own bodies and thus making it difficult or even impossible for them to finish school, accept certain jobs, or accept good opportunities that will help them to overcome the systemic racism that has held them back from achieving their full potential).

Let’s cut to the chase–the issue is that the unborn are human beings and it should never be legal to kill them. When the Democrats start getting that, I’ll be willing to “unify” with them. But to unify with a political Party that advocates such henious, blatant evil is unthinkable and foolish. And yes, hateful. So yes, maybe I have said it, and I don’t take it back.
 
That just makes no sense. I get the Milano reference of course, but the tinted glasses seem to be on the ones trying to alter history, not on me.
 
Right. And the Left has NEVER tried to alter history. Hence, the Alyssa Milano reference before…
 
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Please explain to me how you get from:
whatistrue said:
And you have every right to disagree. But the request was to not be disagreeable or demonize while doing so.
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Peeps said:
So…to disagree with policies is the same as demonizing?
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Best answer to that I can come up with within the forum rules is: No, that is basically the opposite of what I said.

I don’t think I said that you personally demonized anyone, and I have not and will not go through all of your posts looking for some “gotcha” quote; I have much better things to do with my time. I was speaking in general about those who simply want to perpetuate the divisiveness. Yes, reasonable people can disagree about the best way to solve any given issue, but disagreeing does not have to mean “opponents evil, us good”.
 
Yeah, here we have a perfect example of what I am talking about. Don’t try to talk to the opposition and look for some commonality, just continue the finger-pointing and blaming and “but what about” on and on and on and on and on and on and on and spend all your time viewing with alarm and looking for the next big “gotcha” instead of trying to figure out what the real issues are and working to solve them together. Remember “A house divided cannot stand”? Would you rather see the Union that Lincoln fought to preserve go under because Hilary got angry when she lost or because Trump tweeted nonsense regularly? I don’t. I would much rather we just let all that minor stuff go and start working together to fix what ails us. All of us.
 
Well, when you’ve been telling the other side that they are nothing but ‘deplorables’ for four years straight, than yeah, I think it’s more than just ‘minor details’ as you say.

But it’s more than just name-calling. It’s about the people who lost their jobs simply because of the president they supported, or the ones who who were labeled ‘racist’ because of it. Or even worse, the ones who were assaulted (sometimes viciously) for wearing nothing more than a red hat with a four-word slogan you don’t like. And that’s even before 2020.

So yeah, it’s more than just ‘minor details’ as you naively claim.
 
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