Tribute to Joe Biden?

[RolandThompsonGunner]

Does what?

Creates a cult of personality around Joe Biden.

 

[whatistrue]

four-word slogan you don’t like.

Why do you assume what I like or don’t like when I said nothing whatsoever about it? This is again what I am talking about: Pigeon-holing people based on often erroneous beliefs about how they think or feel about something.

In the grand scheme of things, yes, all of that is indeed minor. I am talking about the future existence of the United States, not whether someone got their feelings (or even their jaw) hurt because someone else didn’t like what was on their hat. Priorities.

We need a nation of grown-ups, not a batch of pre-schoolers running around saying “He started it!” - “Nuh-uh, he did!”.

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

Would you rather see the Union that Lincoln fought to preserve go under because Hilary got angry when she lost or because Trump tweeted nonsense regularly?

Do we even really have a Union anymore when the population voted in a president (Obama) who openly attacked the First Amendment?

The divisions in our country predate Trump and go way deeper than silly tweets and ripped-up speeches.
Although those are symptoms.

 

[whatistrue]

The divisions in our country predate Trump and go way deeper than silly tweets and ripped-up speeches.
Although those are symptoms.

Of course they did and I said as much in another post (talking about W and B. Clinton and so forth). And why is it that what is mostly thrown about to “justify” the bile are the silly tweets and ripped up speeches? Sometimes I feel like a modern day Diogenes (not that I am anywhere near that intellectual stature) searching the world for a reasonable person. I know they are out there and every now and then one pops up as if from the mist, and then softly vanishes. Or gets cut off with the forum closing down.

 

[BT3241]

I have never seen a candidate like Trump in my life - it had nothing to do with republicans a populist took over the republican party and people seem to be willing to sell their soul for one man I could never give a person in the world that much blind loyalty - I didn’t think people in this day and age would do this. We live in the era of Populists who are going to save the world and only they can do it no one else can polarizing and separating the masses. The next one will pop up soon - I imagine the antichrist would be posing as a populist he would have no problem turning people against each other and creating total chaos.

 

[Montrose]

• I remember four years ago President Trump also called for unity. I remember how Congressional members of your Democratic Party responded by boycotting his inauguration.
• I remember how you and your Democratic party cheated and used the greatest law enforcement institution of this country to spy on President Trump’s campaign.
• I remember how you and your Democratic Party created a fake Russian dossier to try and impeach our President Trump.
• I remember how your speaker of the house ripped up President Trump’s beautiful State of the Union speech on National TV.
• I remember how you and your Democratic Party tried to impeach President Trump over a Ukraine phone call. You accused President Trump of pay to play. Come to find out Joe, it was really you and your son Hunter.
• I remember how you and your Democratic Party blamed President Trump over a pandemic that he had nothing to do with.
• I remember how you and your Democratic Party encouraged rioting and looting of my great United States of America.
• I remember how you and your Democratic Party used the media to spread lie after lie about President Trump.
• I remember how you and your Democratic Party stole the election from President Trump. This Trump supporter remembers all that, Joe, and I will NOT be unifying with your Democratic Party. This Trump supporter will be giving you the same respect you gave President Trump.

Almost every one of these points is a blatant lie.

Good riddance to Trump on January 20!

 

[Sirach2]

Almost every one of these points is a blatant lie.

That being your opinion, let’s see how much more damage he can do. More lies?

Thanks to the power Congress has ceded to the Oval Office since Sept. 11, 2001, accelerating dramatically during the Bush bailouts, Biden can accomplish an incredible amount.

He can end border wall construction, halt domestic immigration enforcement, reinstate and likely expand amnesty, and dramatically increase the flow of “refugees” from anti-American countries around the globe.

He can rejoin the Paris agreement, jack up car prices with heightened fuel standards, cancel energy production in Alaska, and use regulations and lawsuits to cripple any other attempts to use America’s resources for America’s security and people.

He can start sending American taxpayer money abroad for abortion, open fetal tissue research at home, send money to Planned Parenthoods in our states, finish off women’s sports, privacy, and safety with the trans activist agenda, reinstall kangaroo courts in higher education, then bring the libertine sex agenda down on Christian churches and charities, threatening “privileges” and tax statuses.

He can reinstate federal and military training on the evils of being white, end Trump’s push for pro-American public education, and use zoning and regulation to force more housing projects into the suburbs.

He can expand Obamacare and Medicaid as well as welfare rolls, widening eligibility and cutting back work requirements.

He can keep American troops in combat all over the world while turning an eye back toward toppling more Middle Eastern governments with soldiers recruited from the regions that voted against him.
And, of course, he can seek vengeance on Trump and his family. > The Future Of President Trump's Agenda Hangs On Georgia

 

[whatistrue]

More lies?

No, you didn’t address this to me, but since this is (for now) an open forum I will put in my $0.02 anyway.

I would characterize them in general as heavily biased in phrasing, asserting as “damage” that which can be interpreted differently based on one’s political opinion, interspersed with fearmongering hyperbole and a few outright fabrications. Remember that the fact that Trump is the one who pushed for a policy or action does not make it inherently either good or bad; the same will go for Biden when he is in the office. The relevant standard is whether it is good or bad for the country, not who proposed it, and reasonable people can disagree on whether any specific proposal is good or bad for the country and argue strongly for their position, but should do so in a civil manner and without ad hominem or straw man style rhetoric.

 

[Montrose]

That being your opinion, let’s see how much more damage he can do. More lies?

Trump has been fact checked for the past 4 years. Yes it’s easy to fact check something he has said on camera and in a tweet!!
He has told more lies than all modern US Presidents combined.

 

[Sirach2]

He has told more lies than all modern US Presidents combined.

I am not unaware of his dark side, but I focus instead on all the good Trump has done for the unborn and for naming 3 new conservative justices, among other worthy accomplishments. If Biden takes the helm, so many evils will result that I will be ashamed for our country.

If you are not following his agenda, then I do feel sorry for you. . . .

 

[Jeanne_S]

. . . . Trump is anything but a dictator.What nonsense!

 

[Montrose]

Annnnnd more projection.Trump is anything but a dictator.What nonsense!

It is clear to see. Refusing to accept the election result and wanting to overturn it by saying there was widespread fraud is NONSENSE and that is exactly what third world dictators do.
There was no widespread fraud in the election. Trump is the fraud.

The only difference is that he will never get the military to support his attempted coup.

 

[Jeanne_S]

Yes we shouldn’t believe our lying eyes

 

[Peeps]

Refusing to accept the election result and wanting to overturn it by saying there was widespread fraud is NONSENSE and that is exactly what third world dictators do.

No, Third World dictators send their “special squads” out to kill those who are thwarting their plans. E.g., Kim Jong Un has just ordered executions as one way of fighing coronavirus.

I don’t know about you, but Rudy Guiliani doesn’t strike fear into my heart. I feel a great deal of admiration for him when I remember his leadership and compassion during the 9/11 attacks on his city. I know it’s been 20 years ago, but a person’s heroism stands no matter what happens later in his/her life.

 

[RolandThompsonGunner]

Giuliani is just such a terrible lawyer. It’s staggering.

 

[LilyM]

Giuliani is just such a terrible lawyer. It’s staggering.

Well, he hasn’t argued in a courtroom in decades, plus it is a highly specialised area of law that he is not very familiar with. Dosnt surprise me that he put up a poor show.

 

[otjm]

As an aside, the people who talk about Trump like he’s their boyfriend (“my President Trump…”) are really strange.

Perhaps no more strange than the literally millions who siad “He’s not my President.”

Boyfriend? My, how we mischaracterize things… I find it strange that anyone who spoke of loyalty to a Presidnet would be characterized as making a sexually suggestive remark.

 

[Montrose]

Well, he hasn’t argued in a courtroom in decades, plus it is a highly specialised area of law that he is not very familiar with. Dosnt surprise me that he put up a poor show.

His hair dye dribbling down his face didn’t help I guess!

 

[Freddy]

RolandThompsonGunner:

Giuliani is just such a terrible lawyer. It’s staggering.

Well, he hasn’t argued in a courtroom in decades, plus it is a highly specialised area of law that he is not very familiar with.

And you haven’t thought about that was why his was chosen? This is quite possibly the most important case that Trump has to put forward. And he chooses someone who hasn’t argued in a courtroom in decades and isn’t familiar with the technechalities of this aspect of law?

He knows it’s not going to go his way so he needs someone to blame when it goes pear shaped. Guiliani doesn’t realise this yet.

He is far from being the sharpest tool in the tool box anyway.

 

[Sirach2]

It was a very special reading this evening as I prayed the LoTH vespers, and perhaps a fitting closure for this thread.

READING 1 Corinthians 4:5

Stop passing judgment before the time of the Lord’s return. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and manifest the intentions of hearts. At that time, everyone will receive his praise from God.

God is not mocked. When the Lord returns and manifests the secrets of one’s heart before all the world, they will either be praised by all or vilified by all. There will be no more secret or fraudulent activities - they will be disclosed before the nations. This reading gives me much peace and I think I can rest with knowing God is in control and His enemies will reap their own judgments, however secretly their evils may be presently hidden from others.