Trump campaigned against Muslims, but will preach tolerance in Saudi speech

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PRmerger said:
I think that most of us are not *happy *when he has problems, but rather hopeful. As in, “NOW his supporters, esp his Catholic supporters, will see what it is that they voted in, and will have to acknowledge their great error in endorsing him.”

Unfortunately, it seems that, paraphrasing Mark Shea, Trump could bite the head off a bat in the public square and his supporters would say, “So? Hillary ate weird things too!”

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I voted for trump, I support him and I approve of the job he is doing. I’ll be in the communion line tomorrow.
 
ucfengr said:
If you had any male friends you’d be familiar with the concept of “talking trash”. It’s a ritual heterosexual men engage in when they’re without the wives, usually, but not always over a few beers.
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I’ve seen this in young, immature unmarried men.
Not in adults, in men responsible for children.

It is not a “ritual”. It is sin.
 
PRmerger said:
“[T]he idea that the robustly vulgar, fiercely combative, and morally compromised as Trump will be an avatar for the restoration of Christian morality and social unity is beyond delusional. He is not a solution to America’s cultural decline, but a symptom of it.”–

From The American Conservative: “Christians Tempted by Trump Idolatry”
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Thanks for the link and strong words from a conservative writer.
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
My soul is clean.
To think that because I support trump it isn’t is EXTREMELY uncharitable.

Please withhold your judgement.
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I make no judgement. But I was taken aback your post.

We Easterners, before communion, always express our status as first among sinners. We pray that partaking will not be unto judgement or condemnation but to the healing of soul and body.

I wanted to share that with you.
 
dvdjs said:
I make no judgement. But I was taken aback your post.

We Easterners, before communion, always express our status as first among sinners. We pray that partaking will not be unto judgement or condemnation but to the healing of soul and body.

I wanted to share that with you.
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That is not how that came across at all.
My point was I’m a trump supporter and in a state of grace.

Nothing about that should “take you aback”🤷
 
dvdjs said:
Thanks.
But beware, Trump has evolved, therefore these things didn’t even happen.
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you lied and said that Trump didn’t mention the temporariness of the ban until he was potus. I revealed the truth about that. Some of us won’t have the blood of murdered babies on our hands and have to lean the way we will. You’re willing to go along with the baby killers and you think you’re taking the moral high ground. I wish you well with that.
 
dvdjs said:
I make no judgement. But I was taken aback your post.

We Easterners, before communion, always express our status as first among sinners. We pray that partaking will not be unto judgement or condemnation but to the healing of soul and body.

I wanted to share that with you.
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Your spin has become most transparent. Perhaps you can get a day off.
 
dvdjs said:
Oh that’s beautiful. Triumph as conniver. Who’da thunk it?

Trump’s promises weren’t promises, just baths in ing positions.
His statements of facts weren’t true, just convenient talking points for advancing an agenda, whatever it might be.

Makes me more optimistic.
Not sure how the people who believed his words and promises would feel about that.
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It got people talking and everyone had an opinion. He knew how to manipulate the media during the campaign and that fifth column richly deserved it. Furthermore, he immediately tried to work on Obamacare, issued orders regarding the wall, and made what appears to be a decent Supreme Court pick. He did more in a few months for the causes that I care about than George Bush did in 8 years. He was also the first president in a long time to call out the globalists as an enemy.
PRmerger said:
“[T]he idea that the robustly vulgar, fiercely combative, and morally compromised as Trump will be an avatar for the restoration of Christian morality and social unity is beyond delusional. He is not a solution to America’s cultural decline, but a symptom of it.”–

From The American Conservative: “Christians Tempted by Trump Idolatry”
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What have American conservatives conserved? At least with Trump we have a chance to shatter the Overton Window, reduce immigration, and give aid to the native population. He might not only conserve where the conservatives have failed but even roll back some of the damage the left has done.
Mary_Gail_36 said:
A reporter from Prople magazine claims he forcibly kissed her after an interview. Another woman claims he molested her on a plane. He has a settlement with a woman for sexual harassment.
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None of that proves anything.
Ivana wife number one, confided to friends she felt raped after an encounter with him. All on google
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Hold on the bitter ex-wife says nasty things about the successful ex-husband?! That is a real shocker. :rolleyes:
 
DaddyGirl said:
If you don’t think people should have abortions, you’d be way more effective in achieving that goal in other ways other than electing a delusional madman into office.

Nothing he does will stop women from getting them. But in the process, he will ruin this country and millions will die, in various ways, because of his foolish actions.

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I didn’t think Trump would win the primary and then I didn’t think he would win the election but he did both. I didn’t vote for either of them and I’m still shocked however, where is the blame for the democrats.

Hillary has never been popular, in fact, her nomination was supposed to be a cake walk in 2008 but an inexperienced senator from Illinois took the nomination. This unpopular nominee did not spend enough time campaigning and lost many states that should be natural Democrat party constituents. Trump took Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa and Ohio. Hillary thought she owned them and spent her time with the elite raising more funds when she would have been better off being on the ground and campaigning.

Stop blaming us for the Democrat party putting an incredibly unelectable candidate in the race. Something is wrong with the democrat candidate when even the democrats won’t vote for her.
 
abucs said:
The fact that Obama was given a Nobel Peace prize simply for being a half black liberal President was a disgrace…
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You really are a special kind of disgusting. At least you’re upfront about your racism.
 
DaddyGirl said:
If you don’t think people should have abortions, you’d be way more effective in achieving that goal in other ways other than electing a delusional madman into office.

Nothing he does will stop women from getting them.
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As long as I am not paying for them and obtaining an abortion is a risky and expensive endeavor, I could not care less about public policy on that issue.
WilliamE said:
You really are a special kind of disgusting. At least you’re upfront about your racism.
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Would you mind telling me what he did to deserve it then?
 
WilliamE said:
You really are a special kind of disgusting. At least you’re upfront about your racism.
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That’s not racist, I agree with abucs. It’s the ones who think someone ‘deserves’ a special reward simply because of the color of their skin, who are the racists.

If he were white, would he have still received the award? if the answer is no, then that is racism.

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.” MLK

I hope this has helped

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
PRmerger said:
No, abucs. Divorce and re-marriage being adultery is not a Catholic thing. It’s a Jesus thing.

And unless you think that only Catholics have to submit to what Jesus says, you have to acknowledge that Trump is living in an adulterous relationship.
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If they are protestant or Orthodox, they do not believe that divorce and remarriage is wrong so it is not a mortal sin. For it to be a mortal sin, you have to have full knowledge and they do not.
 
St_Pancake said:
If they are protestant or Orthodox, they do not believe that divorce and remarriage is wrong so it is not a mortal sin. For it to be a mortal sin, you have to have full knowledge and they do not.
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Can’t speak for Eastern Orthodox but a growing number of non-mainline Protestant pastors and theologians are against remarriage after divorce.
 
DaddyGirl said:
If you don’t think people should have abortions, you’d be way more effective in achieving that goal in other ways other than electing a delusional madman into office.

Nothing he does will stop women from getting them. But in the process, he will ruin this country and millions will die, in various ways, because of his foolish actions.

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By voting for Hillary (because it was either Hillary and him)?

No thank you very much and thanks God Hillary lost.

For once we have a President who does not support abortion and that fact is NOT lost on the majority of Catholics. Of course, rebel Catholics, atheists and some Protestants do not count.
 
dvdjs said:
Thanks.
But beware, Trump has evolved, therefore these things didn’t even happen.
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DaddyGirl said:
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“Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the united states…”**

theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/dec/08/donald-trump-calls-for-complete-ban-on-muslims-entering-the-us-video

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DG, did you watch the video you linked? He called for a temporary ban.

after this: Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the united states…

Came this

Until our countries representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.

The ban was always temporary until a way of properly vetting the immigrants could be developed. What a concept. Around the world there are reports of violence by Islamic immigrants and someone wants to temporarily halt that immigration until the governing agencies can develop a plan to properly vet them. Wow, though I don’t have a lot of respect for Trump, you providing this link has certainly increased it. Perhaps it is much more rational than shipping unknown immigrants into and around the country.
 
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