Trump Massive Rally in Washington DC (Nov. 14th) (Tens of Thousands Gather)

[HarryStotle]

Odilon:

LilyM:

BY the way, you want me to believe that Democrats were clever enough to rig the Presidential election without being sure that the Senate and teh House also went Democrat by rigging those votes too?

They didn’t have too. They only needed a few key states to do the dirty work and we can see the result. Of course, this gives the national Democrat leadership plausible deniability. Come on, nobody can do this kind of stuff any better than the Democrats. It’s gone on for years, all the way back to Tammany Hall in NY, LBJ in Texas, and JFK when he ran.

Of course they have to - we have all, over the course of the last handful of Presidencies, seen how nearly impossible it is to get much of anything done when the President is of a different party to the House and Senate. The term is “lame duck”, and not without reason.

I doubt you could call Trump’s term a “lame duck.” He accomplished a great deal despite the opposition from the media, Pelosi’s stalls, impeachment and Mueller inquisitions, etc.

The State of the Union address detailed many of those accomplishments. Too bad Pelosi tore up the list. Nothing like having to re-write history when those throwing hissy fits destroy the records, but here are some highlights…

 

[glencor63]

Yes! The majority of people that voted in Georgia by absentee ballot were African American. Stacy Abrams helped register hundreds of thousands of African Americans and they voted for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. MAGA is overwhelmingly White. African Americans turned Georgia Blue:blue_heart: and it’s going to stay Blue !

 

[glencor63]

There was no voter fraud! Donald Trump is a racist, Malignant Narcissist, and Sociopath! He is using Joseph Goebbels tactics. He has promoted the lie of a stolen election and fraud so often that it has become true in the mind of his fanatical MAGA supporters, which is nothing but a cult, akin to Jim Jones. It’s propaganda! I proudly voted for President Elect Joe Biden and Vice President Elect Kamala Harris. I will NEVER again vote for a Republican, after the behavior of Donald Trump and the Republican Party!

 

[Rau]

I see 1 million new voters mentioned, some up to 1.4 but it includes people kicked off the voter rolls who then reregistered.

I suggest all this would be less contentious were it legally required that all adults vote. You then have lots of time to validate persons coming on to the electoral rolls.

 

[twf]

Let me know when you’ve organized a revolution to put Trump back on the throne. Short of that, all of this baseless “the election was stolen!” talk is just noise. And it’s starting to come across as extremely childish. If you’re not willing to start a revolution to put Trump back in office, all of this whining online about fraud, with zero real evidence, is absolutely and completely useless.

I don’t know what to think. I’m hearing here on CAF that Trump supporters sincerely, truly believe that somehow Biden managed to rig the entire American democratic process in his favour… the biggest coup, the biggest act of corruption in human history… and he managed to do it without a single shred of concrete evidence. Yet those who insist this to be the case, won’t do a thing about it other than complain online. Then I keep hearing here on CAF how Biden is going to persecute Catholics… a couple posters have even been talking about their likely martyrdom in the coming 4 years… but again, it’s just complaints online… they’re not actually moving out of the US or planning a revolution.

So, my conclusions? I’m not convinced any of you truly, deep down believe this stuff. Because if you truly did, you would either be fighting a revolution right now, or leaving the US completely. It’s just blowing off steam online because you’re disappointed Trump lost. That’s all it is. No one believes this stuff - not really - because the claims are so outlandish and so extreme, that if you truly did, you would be starting a bonafide revolution tomorrow. And that won’t happen. Because it’s just noise. Trump lost. And everyone deep down knows it.

 

[pnewton]

help to clear up people’s concern’s about this election.

It will clear up nothing. Each state had its own process to assure legal voters only voted. After the election was lost, these questions came up because the election was lost, just like it did for Hillary supporters in 2016 that just could not accept a lost election. Human nature is what it is.

If there was nothing to hide, why did Pa election workers want to keep Republican poll watchers out?

Not out, at a distance. And not Republican poll watchers, but everyone, and Republicans had non-zero observing . Why? Really, you have to ask?

 

[neophyte]

One group that promoted the rally on social media, the Proud Boys, has faced extra scrutiny. The [Southern Poverty Law Center] defines them as a hate group.

The fact that the SPLC says it makes me disinclined to believe it.

 

[pnewton]

Your ridiculing of concerns is mistaken both as an approach and in its effect. You think that by belittling these people

If I belittle someone, you can report it. I do not think I have. Perhaps you are right and I have done this elsewhere. I am sure I have to myself. I mean, some of the comments I here are so absurd. If you are making a list of legitimate concerns, aren’t you just a little bit frustrated with the more extreme false claims, like faking burning of ballots, showing foreign elections like they are real, etc. I have always said that legitimate law suits must play out, and mostly they have. They just have not been many, and none have had substantial changes. The incumbent lost. I am counting the days until that becomes obvious an irreversible. That is not to belittle anyone. It is to give hope to the majority of Americans that we will have a smooth transition of power and that our country will not forever be in limbo.

And today is one more day closer.

 

[pnewton]

Shakuhachi:

One group that promoted the rally on social media, the Proud Boys, has faced extra scrutiny. The [Southern Poverty Law Center] defines them as a hate group.

The fact that the SPLC says it makes me disinclined to believe it.

Are you disinclined to believe skinheads, Nation of Islam, New Black Panthers are also not hate groups just because the SPLC calls them hate groups as well?

With the violence that erupted on this march, I would hope common sense would prevail, and not buy the narrative that the right will give that all the violence was because of leftists who attacked, or that the left will give that it was the marchers from the right that caused it all. As always, it takes two to tango, or tangle. If you get all your news from one side, you will only see half of the picture.

 

[Canvas]

Oh really? Being allowed in and the poll watchers not being allowed near enough to see is not good enough. How about the election workers in MI putting up poster board so no one could see in where the counting was taking place in VIOLATION of MI election law? Nothing to see there either, right?

If you watch the video of the incident in Michigan, they are covering the windows because a large group of Trump supporters were harrassing them and taking pictures of election workers with their cell phones. In the video, you can clearly see a large number of reporters and other observers standing in the room .

 

[Odilon]

I would hope common sense would prevail, and not buy the narrative that the right will give that all the violence was because of leftists who attacked, or that the left will give that it was the marchers from the right that caused it all. As always, it takes two to tango, or tangle. If you get all your news from one side, you will only see half of the picture.

No one from the right harassed innocent people dining outside or attacked people as they were leaving the rally. It was the left, it is always the left of late and not a peep from the Democrats condemning them. Portland, Minneapolis, and now DC, the Democrat Storm Troops remain on the march.

 

[Odilon]

As always, it takes two to tango, or tangle. If you get all your news from one side, you will only see half of the picture.

If I punch you in the nose without provocation, you have the right to defend yourself. The track record of leftist groups is clear and miles of video from around the nation proves it

 

[Odilon]

taking pictures of election workers with their cell phones. In the video, you can clearly see a large number of reporters and other observers standing in the room .

People at public events are subject to having their pictures taken, and covering up the widows was bad optics at the very least for the Democrat poll workers.

 

[neophyte]

Are you disinclined to believe skinheads, Nation of Islam, New Black Panthers are also not hate groups just because the SPLC calls them hate groups as well?

That a liar sometimes makes a truthful statement doesn’t make me think he’s not lying when he speaks, and the SPLC is infamous for its lies.

 

[Canvas]

the Democrat poll workers.

How do you know they were Democrats? For all we know, the guy covering windows could have been a Libertarian or had written in the name of the Socialist Worker’s Party candidate Alyson Kennedy.

 

[pnewton]

It was the left, it is always the left of late and not a peep from the Democrats condemning them.

Perhaps there is no peep on this because they do not have the same slanted view. If your glasses are red, everything is red and black.

 

[1ke]

People at public events are subject to having their pictures taken

As already stated it is ILLEGAL to take pictures at polling places or of ballots or poll workers in some states, including in Michigan. You are only allowed to take a picture is your OWN ballot and only BEFORE you leave the voting booth.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

The disclaimer on Youtube. under broadcast.

Such text shows up on any recently uploaded video concerning the election. This week YouTube et al stand before a hearing to report on their efforts to prevent election misinformation spread.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

Does that include the opt-out voters who receive ballots automatically from the state after being registered repeat, automatically registered at Dept of Motor Vehicles?

You are conflating registrations with ballot request. In GA if you want a mail in ballot, it must be requested. The request process is easy. The Georgia Secretary of State has a simple form on their website for making the request. But if no request is made then no ballot is mailed.

Not true, a few states is all they are asking for - Georgia to start with. Two million new voters registered automatically at DMV.

I’ve addressed all of your Georgia concerns in the Georgia thread. Take a look at the response. It may make you feel better.

Joe Biden becomes first Democrat in 28 years to win Georgia World News

According to the Georgia DDS That should address some of your concerns. They are not able to meet ID requirements for an ID. Text you quoted earlier about immigrants and licenses are for documented immigrants and aliens, such as green card holders. There’s a few things that I think were missed. To access some of the services without going in person, a Real ID is required (ex: renewing a license online requires someone already have Real ID status). Not everyone is elegible for t…

 

[ThinkingSapien]

Right, and? Non-citizens can get driver’s licenses/permits/id cards according to that. Why do you think, even if they didn’t decline to register to vote, that they’d be added to the voter rolls?

GA has a system (Enet) that automatically cross-checks records at the social security administration and DDS for citizenship status. It deregulates a person if it finds problems until a couple of years ago, the system would deregister people eagerly.

If a non-citizen became a citizen and registered, GA DDS didn’t update their records and the person’s registration would be undone. Or if there were some variation in their name in one of the records, such as the difference caused by an extra space, hyphen, or apostrophe the person could be deregistered. As a result, there were barriers to even a properly registered person being unregistered.

As non-citizen immigrants don’t have a SSN and GA does not issue IDs to undocumented immigrants, they can’t be registered to vote.

My article was from 2012. 8 years would be … now. And you were concerned about the 2 million (your number) new registrations.

The 8 years is because that is the longest valid time for a license. You can get one with either 4 year or 8 year expiration.

That means it is possible that a person that got their license in November or December of 2012 still has it now.

Also note that automatic voter registration did not start until 2016.

Are you referring to the one thrown out a day after it was filed?

No i am talking about the new lawsuit that was filed yesterday so let’s go forth and end this by allowing the audit.

The referenced case is not supportive of the arguments made within this thread. A link to the legal complaint was posted in another thread. I encourage reading the complaint and making your own assessment.

Joe Biden becomes first Democrat in 28 years to win Georgia World News

BTW: I looked at this law suit. For those that are curious the legal complaint can be found here: This is not about the citizenship status of the voters. He is arguing that when a signature mis-match is found, that having a total of three people look at it and vote on whether or not it is a match to not be consistent with Georgia Code Title 21. Elections § 21-2-386(a)(1)(B). Under a settlement, from March, the Georgia SoS agreed that there would be three people that would check a signature…