Trump Massive Rally in Washington DC (Nov. 14th) (Tens of Thousands Gather)

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

Perhaps I missed it?

What you apparently missed was how common masks were at the Biden celebrations, as opposed to the Trump rallies. Which has been the case throughout the campaign.

What I have also missed, admittedly, is the evidence that masks actually do make any difference at all to stopping the spread of a virus.

Perhaps you can provide links to indisputable evidence that masks do, in fact, make that difference rather than to expert opinions that that is so. The CDC couldn’t find those, but perhaps you can?

The CDC issued a study months ago that a review of relevant research shows masks are not effective in stopping influenza and influenza-like viruses.

 

[HarryStotle]

The beautiful thing about the adversarial system for determining the truth about anything is that it allows both sides equal opportunity to present the best case and challenge points made by the other side until the truth percolates to the surface. The courts work that way. Public forums should, as well.

However…

Twitter suspended the posts of the individual who did the deep dive into Coomer’s connections with Antifa.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1326925274789908480

The media is spinning the rally in Washington to portray Proud Boys as the aggressors when Antifa triggered the violence by attacking the vulnerable old and young.

Please do watch the Andy Ngo video in this link to see for yourself whether Antifa/BLM are the innocent victims:

'Total Media Blackout' as Antifa Launches Attacks on MAGA Rallygoers in D.C.

pjmedia.com

Pretty hard for the adversarial system to work when one side has all the power to censor or bury information from the other side.

To you who wish merely to censor those with viewpoints contrary to yours, think about the long term consequences of doing so.

Will the truth just magically rise up through the smoke?

 

[Victoria33]

Exactly, if the Proud Boys were doing this, it’d be all over the news.

Beating up older people. This is fully unacceptable.

I believe I saw even al Jazeera (Qatar) is giving this some coverage.

 

[Usagi]

Outside the country does not address the 2 million voter registered in the state of Georgia living in /georgia. who received mail in ballots.

Georgia is not one of the states that mass-mailed ballots to every eligible voter. The individual voter had to request such a ballot. (Which, I believe, makes them not awful “mail-in ballots” but wonderful “absentee ballots” by the President’s calculus.)

So your suggestion is not only that no eligibility checking was done when these license applications were received (so that anyone who forgot to check the box, apparently including loads of eager 16- and 17-year-olds getting their first licenses, was just registered automatically). Now you’re also asserting that a bunch of people with those invalid voter registrations all deliberately requested absentee ballots. Is there nothing in that chain of events that seems off to you? Is the Georgia election apparatus that incompetent?

And then you are concerned that people on this thread are not “letting” this audit go forward. I think I can be pretty confident that no one in this discussion has the power to allow or stop the audit in question. We’re just talking about whether we find the evidence persuasive or not. If an audit is happening, it will happen regardless of what we think, and we will all see the results. If no audit is held, it’s not because the skepticism of some folks on CAF stopped it.

 

[Odilon]

Now it is time for you to apply the “red and black” filter to the above article to dismiss it as conspiracy despite that it provides the checkable evidence.

According to attorney Sidney Powell, this Dominion company just might be the problem here. From what she said, they were banned from participating in elections here in America for some 10 years and somehow they were allowed back in as a sub-contractor. The State of Texas reviewed their voting systems and gave them a thumbs down - they were not allowed to be used in Texas. According to attorney Powell, anything can be done with these machines - even by remote means. In each instance with the problems we are having in these few states, counting the votes was suspended for a period of time and we need to find the real reason why that happened for sure.

 

[o_mlly]

What’s the problem with challenging the counts in the several states? If the counts were accurate then they will be just as accurate on the recount and Biden will be President-Elect. Without the recount, the legitimacy of Biden’s presidency will always be in doubt.

For those who argue there is insufficient evidence of error or fraud then I submit there was far less evidence (0 to be exact) to launch the $30+ million dollar Mueller investigation of Trump’s Russia involvement.

The difference, you ask? That $30+ million was your and my money; Trump’s paying his lawyers out of the private campaign funds. And AG Barr’s investigation expenditures will pale to the Mueller "full-employment act for Democratic lawyers".

 

[Feanor2]

Well Trump certainly has his audience once he leaves office.

I wonder if he will sign on to Newsmax, One America Network, or just start his own.

 

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

Now it is time for you to apply the “red and black” filter to the above article to dismiss it as conspiracy despite that it provides the checkable evidence.

According to attorney Sidney Powell, this “Dominion” company just might be the problem here. From what she said, they were banned from participating in elections here in America for some 10 years and somehow they came back as a “sub-contractor”. The State of Texas reviewed their voting systems and gave them a thumbs down - they were not allowed to be used in Texas. According to attorney Powell, anything can be done with these machines - even by remote means. In each instance with the problems we are having in these few states, counting the votes was suspended for a period of time and we need to find the real reason why that happened for sure.

The CIA and other foreign governments have used earlier versions of the software to tamper with elections in different parts of the world because of its “open” architecture.

The capacity to weight votes in decimal fractions within the system has never been properly explained. One person one vote doesn’t seem to justify that. I mean is it justifiable that some votes should only count for .938 or .666 of a vote?

 

[Victoria33]

According to attorney Sidney Powell, this Dominion company just might be the problem here. From what she said, they were banned from participating in elections here in America for some 10 years and somehow they were allowed back in as a sub-contractor. The State of Texas reviewed their voting systems and gave them a thumbs down - they were not allowed to be used in Texas. According to attorney Powell, anything can be done with these machines - even by remote means. In each instance with the problems we are having in these few states, counting the votes was suspended for a period of time and we need to find the real reason why that happened for sure.

Correct…

And they are connected to Smartamatic (odd name for a company, yes) and it goes on from there.

TX refused twice to use their software.

 

[gam197]

Georgia is not one of the states that mass-mailed ballots to every eligible voter. The individual voter had to request such a ballot. (Which, I believe, makes them not awful “mail-in ballots” but wonderful “absentee ballots” by the President’s calculus.)

No, you do not need to request an absentee ballot, it too is automatic and that is also done through the DMV.

According to data provided by the secretary of state’s office as of Wednesday morning, at least 582,000 are on a “rollover” list of voters who checked a box to receive an absentee ballot for every election in a given cycle…Another 175,000 have applied for a ballot by email, fax, mail or hand-delivering an application to their local election office.

These are roll-over ballots so they do not have to actively request a ballot. Once you request an absentee ballot the first time you are permanently placed on a voter registration and do not have to apply again for an absentee ballot, you are automatically sent one…

Its states it on the license renewal form.

 

[1ke]

Nothing to raise suspicions in Ohio, or Iowa, or Florida or Texas. Clear rules with everyone following them impartially tends to reassure people regarding fairness.

Nothing to raise suspicion in any other state either.

Different rules but clear rules.

The Republican legislature in Pennsylvania set those rules on mail in ballot counting going last. And therefore they were counted last. Clearly following the rules.

 

[phil3]

Well back in the day Gore tried to start a network. It failed.

 

[phil3]

Youre correct lots showed up for the swearing in, and hundred of thousands didnt vote for him, but somehow theri ballots did, so did dead people

 

[phil3]

Those that shall not be names are only to willing to turn a blind eye to this type of violence. Moderate Islamic do the same thing. The ends justify the means. That is why this stolen election happened.

 

[Dan123]

According to data provided by the secretary of state’s office as of Wednesday morning, at least 582,000 are on a “rollover” list of voters who checked a box to receive an absentee ballot for every election in a given cycle…Another 175,000 have applied for a ballot by email, fax, mail or hand-delivering an application to their local election office.

You’re starting to look like you may be trolling. You literally posted the refutation to your own claim before even making it. These people did request a ballot, they " checked a box to receive an absentee ballot for every election in a given cycle".

 

[PickyPicky]

What I have also missed, admittedly, is the evidence that masks actually do make any difference at all to stopping the spread of a virus.

Perhaps you can provide links to indisputable evidence that masks do, in fact, make that difference rather than to expert opinions that that is so.

Expert opinion seems to me wise to accept when I’m dealing not only with my health but with my effect on other people’s health.

 

[Sarcelle]

Wearing a mask has become a political statement.

If you wear a mask, you are wearing a diaper on your face and are nothing but sheeple.

 

[gam197]

gam197:

According to data provided by the secretary of state’s office as of Wednesday morning, at least 582,000 are on a “rollover” list of voters who checked a box to receive an absentee ballot for every election in a given cycle…Another 175,000 have applied for a ballot by email, fax, mail or hand-delivering an application to their local election office.

These are roll-over ballots so they do not have to actively request a ballot. Once you request an absentee ballot the first time you are permanently placed on a voter registration and do not have to apply again for an absentee ballot, you are automatically sent one…

You’re starting to look like you may be trolling. You literally posted the refutation to your own claim before even making it. These people did request a ballot, they " checked a box to receive an absentee ballot for every election in a given cycle ".

No the Department of Registry of Motor Vehicles has an opt out box.(Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)

Once you do not check that opt-out box, you are automatically put on a voter registration and given an absentee ballot. - you get that every year unless you opt out.

The 173,000 that is quoted by the secretary of state are those people who actually did request a ballot were the ones who did have to write an online request or written request.

Here is the block they had to check if they were over age 65 or medically not able to get a ballot. They are the rollover number (582,000)

Page 2 of the Department of Motor Vehicle(DMV) License Renewal form(Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)

 

[lemongrass80]

It’s crazy to me that we still need to rehash and explain these basic facts over and over again at this point.

 

[Gorgias]

No they do not need to show in person to get a license, they file online,

Not true. From the GA DDS site:

Identity and Lawful Status Requirements​

• Non-US citizens are required to present valid immigration documents in person at a Customer Service Center to prove identity and lawful status in the United States. Original immigration documentation must be submitted each time a service is requested pertaining to a driver’s license or identification card.

Note: Original immigration documentation must be submitted each time. So… no “mail-in” or online service for non-citizens.

In other words: the scenario you’ve presented as justifying a complete audit doesn’t reflect real-world procedures in Georgia.

Gorgias:

They said that they’d planned on shutting down at 10:30 and reopening at 1am, didn’t they?

Not from what I have gathered.

Umm… it literally said that in the link you provided.

An average 6.0% gain in votes to four GOP candidates but an average Dem gain was 0.0%.

I followed the post from your link to the newspaper that reported this change. What did the reporter write? “None of those changes altered the outcomes.”

This selective quote-mining and reporting of half-truths (along with untrue innuendos) is getting tedious. You realize that this just has the effect of undermining all the claims of “fraud” and “stolen elections”, right?