My point is that what people need is care. Subsidizing coverage at 100% for someone who can’t pay copays or or deductibles doesn’t help.Lack of coverage kills tens of thousands a year. People can’t get care because they can’t afford it. We need to switch to the system that provides coverage and care for everyone, and also happens to save hundreds of billions of dollars a year.
There wouldn’t be copays or deductibles in a single-payer system. That’s why it’s called “single-payer”.My point is that what people need is care. Subsidizing coverage at 100% for someone who can’t pay copays or or deductibles doesn’t help.
I get really queasy talking about single payer, mainly because our government can’t manage anything complex.There wouldn’t be copays or deductibles in a single-payer system. That’s why it’s called “single-payer”.
Yet somehow Medicaid exists and is paid for.Half of the people in the country don’t pay federal income taxes. That’s because they don’t make enough money to. You can’t add addition payroll taxes on them, and they can’t afford federal income taxes.
You pay for it by switching to the system that saves $200 billion a year, and you don’t have to convince people to subsidize half the country, they’re already subsidizing half the country. Nothing would change except spending less money on health care.How do you pay for it, and how do you convince the people who are paying that they should subsidize half the country?
Two things:How do you pay for it, and how do you convince the people who are paying that they should subsidize half the country?
Medicaid is paid out of federal income taxes and a little state money. Looking for a point to that comment.Yet somehow Medicaid exists and is paid for.
I don’t believe that for a minute. And, anyway, $200 billion doesn’t mean anything in light of annual healthcare spending of $3.8 trillion.You pay for it by switching to the system that saves $200 billion a year, and you don’t have to convince people to subsidize half the country, they’re already subsidizing half the country. Nothing would change except spending less money on health care.
The point is responding to you saying “poor people don’t pay taxes, how is the government going to raise taxes to pay for their health care” by pointing out the government already pays for or subsidizes the health care of poor people.Medicaid is paid out of federal income taxes and a little state money. Looking for a point to that comment.
Don’t listen to me, listen to Koch-funded conservative think tanks.I don’t believe that for a minute.
I personally consider $200 billion to be a sum of money worth saving but hey, I’m not a politician with insurance industry donors to funnel public money to.And, anyway, $200 billion doesn’t mean anything in light of annual healthcare spending of $3.8 trillion.
Any hospitals that couldn’t function under a single payer system should just be taken over by the government, and current insurance industry workers could be put to work administrating the new system or given unemployment until they find work in the booming economy that would result from a switch to single payer.I’m all for bold solutions, but, you have to take into account our current private payer system and what to do with the hiospitals and insurance companies.
The 5th amendment protects people and corporations: “nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation”.Any hospitals that couldn’t function under a single payer system should just be taken over by the government, and current insurance industry workers could be put to work administrating the new system or given unemployment until they find work in the booming economy that would result from a switch to single payer.
As I said, the government should take over hospitals that can’t function. Hospital groups stop being worth a trillion dollars if they aren’t profitable.I could argue that United Healthcare Group alone is worth a trillion dollars, based on yearly revenue of $250 billion
They are one of the biggest insurance companies in the country. You can’t take their business away from them without compensation.As I said, the government should take over hospitals that can’t function. Hospital groups stop being worth a trillion dollars if they aren’t profitable.
I can see where your confusion is. The constitution protects private property, not business.They are one of the biggest insurance companies in the country. You can’t take their business away from them without compensation.
They’re the same thing.The constitution protects private property, not business.
So I guess voting for Biden was voting for communism?The government would pay for those when it nationalizes the hospitals.