What about the wall? (Relevant Issues: Cont'd)

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All of the major drug busts are made at legal points of entry which are exclusively what the Cartels use to bring their drugs into the USA.
Can you cite any DEA, FBI, ICE or relevant border State law enforcement agencies to back this claim up? I mean I’m glad Latin American drug cartels are stupid enough to try to enter the United States by going through the most secure and guarded ports of entry but I am personally a little bit worried one of them might come down from their coke binge and start thinking that perhaps trying to go around the security check points might be a safer avenue.
 
Or a ladder
Well that is why I said tall wall.
All a border wall does is reinforce ‘they’ should stay other “there” which isn’t healthy
Uh…they should stay over there in their country and not in the US. That is kind of the idea of having laws, borders, citizenship etc. What part of that don’t you get?
 
live in a Southern border State. All of the major drug busts are made at legal points of entry which are exclusively what the Cartels use to bring their drugs into the USA. What is needed is more security & tools at these legal points of entry to stop more of the drug flow, since they’re catching but a fraction of what comes through these legal check point
You are contradicting yourself. Maybe a few stupid drug smugglers go through legal points, but the rest are the ones cautious enough to get through at non secure points.
 
Uh…they should stay over there in their country and not in the US. That is kind of the idea of having laws, borders, citizenship etc. What part of that don’t you get?
Globalists don’t see it that way
 
Yet we are constantly told by Trump supporting CAFers that there’s “no racism” on the Trump / Republican side of the aisle. I’m sure those nasty kids who berate your children are all Obama loving Democrat’s eh…?
 
There are racists on both sides. No doubt. Neither is good. There are also many who accuse others of racism where none exists. We all need to think (and pray) before we speak and before we act instead of assuming we know what is in another person’s heart. We are supposed to leave the judging to God.
 
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Yet we are constantly told by Trump supporting CAFers that there’s “no racism” on the Trump / Republican side of the aisle. I’m sure those nasty kids who berate your children are all Obama loving Democrat’s eh…?
No, that’s a projection. Nobody says there is no racism from people voting GOP.
I think people say they are the distinct minority.
 
Can you cite any DEA, FBI, ICE or relevant border State law enforcement agencies to back this claim up? I mean I’m glad Latin American drug cartels are stupid enough to try to enter the United States by going through the most secure and guarded ports of entry but I am personally a little bit worried one of them might come down from their coke binge and start thinking that perhaps trying to go around the security check points might be a safer avenue.
It’s a well known fact. Here, in this Southern Border State, we hear about every local drug bust. All major busts happen at the legal border ports of entry. Statistically speaking if you have a huge volume of product to move from one country to another, you are far more likely to get caught when you’re Not going through a check point. Think about it.

In between the legal check points there are drag lines which are tracked and infrared heat sensing which picks up literally everyone within like 40+ miles of the Mexican Border. My friend and her husband were camping in the mountains 40 miles away from the Mexican Border a few months back and in the middle of the night Border Patrol shows up to their campsite because they saw them with the infrared from miles away.

Now, if you have a truck full of drugs, you’ll stand out like a sore thumb. But it’s not just one truck full a day, but multiple trucks full everyday coming across with the various Cartels’ drugs - ALL would be caught if crossing anywhere BUT a legal checkpoint (or a Tunnel). Legal check points have hundreds of thousands crossing everyday and they, currently, literally can NOT check evey single one thoroughly enough to catch them all - statistically, most get through.

My friend & I were discussing your comment today at the gym. She suggests you to read Devil’s Highway, if you want an unpolitically-biased idea of what’s really going on down here.

The solution is to spend the tremendous amount of money being wasted on a Wall (where drugs aren’t coming in) and direct it to the legal points of entry so that it WILL be possible to thoroughly check every single truck coming over. Then, either the Cartels will be crushed or they’ll start looking for another away in - deal with that problem once/if it becomes a problem… until then, let’s deal with the problem that actually exists.
 
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It’s a well known fact. Here, in this Southern Border State, we hear about every local drug bus
But you will never know about the drug smugglers who cross in the night at illegal crossings because they will get away with it. Tunnels have been used at illegal points.

Even if the wall does not stop a single drug smuggler it will still be worth it to protect the US from all foreign Invaders. MS 13 gang members illegaly enter the US and become very involved in drug trafficking. As I have already stated many if the Illegal aliens take US jobs, and use our benefits. They are coming here at a rate of over 75000 a month(that is just the ones we know about) so it’s not hard to believe thst Homeland Security calls it a crisis.

The people I’ve talked to at the Arizona border complain of their property being littered with personal items and feces. In one case they were physically threatened with harm by an Illegal invader.
 
The solution is to spend the tremendous amount of money being wasted on a Wall (where drugs aren’t coming in) and direct it to the legal points of entry so that it WILL be possible to thoroughly check every single truck coming over. Then, either the Cartels will be crushed or they’ll start looking for another away in - deal with that problem once/if it becomes a problem… until then, let’s deal with the problem that actually exists.
The money for the wall isn’t that much, it’s a drop in the bucket and it does reduce illegal immigrants who carry significant cost to our communities. I do agree the wall will have far less impact on illegal drugs, but it will have some impact.
 
Not enough to justify it is the point here.
If it keeps out many of the illegals who currently walk unimpeded across our border it would be more than worth whatever it costs. Whatever effect it has on reducing the flow of drugs is a bonus.
 
Okay I’m going to say this one last time and if you can’t get it I’m out.

The wall costs too much both in base price and upkeep compared to other forms of security (mostly intelligence) to justify. It will have no meaningful impact on illegals. Particularly since you can be legal crossing but become illegal for staying too long. Furthermore drugs normally cross at legal crossing points as linked above.

Yes it’s easier and ultimately safer to climb a mountain rather then sweat out a check point but, and here is the kicker;

If you are willing to climb a mountain, ford a river or cross a deasert what’s the cost of some coated rope, wire cutters and can do spirit to scale a wall?

Which brings us to another point I forgot to mention. The boarder is already patrolled. Do you want to obstruct a field of view with a wall?

Put lights on it? Maybe a patrol nest every 100 yards?

Let me add that to the wall bill.
 
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I’ll just say this; if you don’t have a wall you don’t have a nation. Do you lock your doors at night?
 
The wall costs too much both in base price and upkeep compared to other forms of security (mostly intelligence) to justify. It will have no meaningful impact on illegals.
You can’t know that. If the wall is tall enough, has security measures to prevent climbing etc. I suspect you are one of those who complained about any method to stop illegal aliens from invading our country. I will believe the experts at Homeland Security over you.

 
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Which brings us to another point I forgot to mention. The boarder is already patrolled. Do you want to obstruct a field of view with a wall
Again, you don’t know what you are talking about. See my above article from Homeland Security.
 
A wall is a dam. Are you sure you want the U.S. responsible for annual flooding on the Rio Grand
Do you really believe they will construct the wall in such a way as to stop the flow of water? That is a ridiculous comment.
 
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